The 'right' discouraging illegals?

[B686]

At least the so called right wing knuckle draggers dont turn up with knifes and machettes. Like 2 Tier kiers buddies.Dont suppose any of tem were arrested. 

[12gauge82]

I saw an article about a police officer telling a bunch of 'protesters' to "stash" any weapons they might have in a mosque to ensure they don't get arrested. 

Absolutely shocking if true. 

[B686]

There is a video of it he’s a police liaison officer. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

1 hour ago, janner said:

"They shall nor pass"

Luckily the good people of this country had enough of the actions of the right wing knuckle draggers and came out in overwhelming support of refugees and asylum seekers, 

 For the faragist hooligan,

 your day is done,

 

Hello, We are good people of this country but where do you draw the line on how many refugees and asylum seekers can the UK take and cost tax payers multi millions of £s , We are only a small Island, 1000s of UK families on the housing list, 1 million UK children live in poverty, Hospitals and GP surgeries bursting at the seams, Millions in UK rely on food banks, the list is endless on the hardship millions are going through in the UK, Lets look after our own population as sure we cannot afford to look after any more from foreign shores

[B686]

2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, We are good people of this country but where do you draw the line on how many refugees and asylum seekers can the UK take and cost tax payers multi millions of £s , We are only a small Island, 1000s of UK families on the housing list, 1 million UK children live in poverty, Hospitals and GP surgeries bursting at the seams, Millions in UK rely on food banks, the list is endless on the hardship millions are going through in the UK, Lets look after our own population as sure we cannot afford to look after any more from foreign shores

👍shame Osama bin Starmer doesn’t see it that way.

[oldypigeonpopper]

3 minutes ago, B686 said:

👍shame Osama bin Starmer doesn’t see it that way.

Hello, I would not be surprised in the October budget if Starmer and his Government put up income tax to off set the cost on keeping Asylum seekers in the UK🤔

[Penelope]

1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, We are good people of this country but where do you draw the line on how many refugees and asylum seekers can the UK take and cost tax payers multi millions of £s , We are only a small Island, 1000s of UK families on the housing list, 1 million UK children live in poverty, Hospitals and GP surgeries bursting at the seams, Millions in UK rely on food banks, the list is endless on the hardship millions are going through in the UK, Lets look after our own population as sure we cannot afford to look after any more from foreign shores

They are not refugees or asylum seekers; please don't fall into the leftist mantra.

[oldypigeonpopper]

1 hour ago, Penelope said:

They are not refugees or asylum seekers; please don't fall into the leftist mantra.

Hello, It was a polite way i wrote, I could have been more expletive 🤔

[henry d]

8 hours ago, 100milesaway said:

Lodgings, food, free phone and 49 pounds a week, does that not count as a benefit paid out of the public purse....Dress it up however you like it is a very generous benefit.

From Auntie 

Come on, you're being selective here again, or possibly you're just posting rubbish from elsewhere. 

If they get meals in their accommodation then it's £8-86 / week. How do you brush your teeth, wash your hands, buy sanitary wear, etc with that?

As for phones that's a lie....

Care to comment on the inconsistencies in your post and where you get them from?

6 hours ago, B686 said:

At least the so called right wing knuckle draggers dont turn up with knifes and machettes. Like 2 Tier kiers buddies.Dont suppose any of tem were arrested. 

Thomas Mair?

[Rewulf]

25 minutes ago, henry d said:

As for phones that's a lie....

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2021/11/11/illegal-immigrants-handed-an-estimated-30000-taxpayer-funded-mobile-phones-since-middle-of-2020

[henry d]

Really?

Open mouth then jump in with both feet. 

Here are the facts available Here... https://fullfact.org/online/asylum-seeker-free-iphone/#:~:text=Asylum seekers do not receive,the progress of their claims.

 

Screenshot here...

[clangerman]

don’t know who pays for phones child gives the refugees and migrants she houses but do know they are so ungrateful first thing they do is sell it! lol 

[Weihrauch17]

46 minutes ago, henry d said:

Really?

Open mouth then jump in with both feet. 

Here are the facts available Here... https://fullfact.org/online/asylum-seeker-free-iphone/#:~:text=Asylum seekers do not receive,the progress of their claims.

 

Screenshot here...

Why are you such a left wing Refugee lover?  Totally bizarre.

[100milesaway]

1 hour ago, henry d said:

Come on, you're being selective here again, or possibly you're just posting rubbish from elsewhere. 

If they get meals in their accommodation then it's £8-86 / week. How do you brush your teeth, wash your hands, buy sanitary wear, etc with that?

As for phones that's a lie....

Care to comment on the inconsistencies in your post and where you get them from?

Thomas Mair?

The young men arriving on the boats illegally dont need sanitary wear and most dont  look like they wash or clean their teeth but most of them seem to be able to afford cigarette and vapes.They also can afford the thousands to get here paid to the transporters and most seem to have the latest trainers and trendy hairstyles. That being said why can't  they afford to pay for what they receive free.

From Auntie 

Edited August 9 by 100milesaway
Thought of more freebies but the list is so long it would take me a week to type it all out.

[yickdaz]

21 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Why are you such a left wing Refugee lover?  Totally bizarre.

this

[Rewulf]

2 hours ago, henry d said:

Open mouth then jump in with both feet. 

Ah, full fact , must be true then 🤣

From https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2021/07/22/returns-deportation-and-charter-flights-factsheet/

All individuals in Immigration Removal Centres are provided with a mobile phone and have access to landline telephones on request, fax machines, email and video calling facilities which can be used to contact legal advisers and family and friends.

Also 14000 phones were given out in 2020 due to covid restrictions, taxpayer funded.

Even full fact say charities give them phones, so yes, they get free phones.

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

What a damned awful bloody mess this country is in due to the very fashionable WOKERY. 

[janner]

The mess this country is in was/is not caused by the poor souls at the bottom of the pile,

They are just the easiest to blame.

 

 

 

 

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, janner said:

The mess this country is in was/is not caused by the poor souls at the bottom of the pile,

They are just the easiest to blame.

 

 

 

 

This country has a huge and growing problem with uncontrolled migration, but I agree that there are bigger issues that are never mentioned. 

[Vince Green]

On 08/08/2024 at 08:55, henry d said:

 

So how do we pay for the massive cost of care for the elderly by a shrinking younger population? 

Why should we have to? They don't in other countries. 

The idea is quite ridiculous when you think about it. People should provide for their own old age. Instead the message, subliminally, is that they don't have to bother because the State will provide.

In any case, we are storing up more problems for the future because the vast majority of these migrants will not have the skills or qualifications to live without State help for the rest of their lives. 

That is also true for a large percentage of the British population, and it's growing

 

Edited August 10 by Vince Green

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, If you put Poor in context they seem to find £1000s to pay Traffickers 🤔

[Vince Green]

Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, If you put Poor in context they seem to find £1000s to pay Traffickers 🤔

Which is why you can be sure they are not real refugees.  There are millions of genuine people living (and dying) in war zones and under political oppression but they don't have the money or the resources to get out.

[JohnfromUK]

19 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Which is why you can be sure they are not real refugees.  There are millions of genuine people living (and dying) in war zones and under political oppression but they don't have the money or the resources to get out.

/\  This

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, Vince Green said:

Why should we have to? They don't in other countries. 

The idea is quite ridiculous when you think about it. People should provide for their own old age. Instead the message, subliminally, is that they don't have to bother because the State will provide.

In any case, we are storing up more problems for the future because the vast majority of these migrants will not have the skills or qualifications to live without State help for the rest of their lives. 

That is also true for a large percentage of the British population, and it's growing

 

I think in many societies, the young look after their own old. The problem in the west is with the cost of living, housing and time pressures of modern working, with both partners going to work, it makes that very difficult to do. 

[Mungler]

51 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Why should we have to? They don't in other countries. 

The idea is quite ridiculous when you think about it. People should provide for their own old age. Instead the message, subliminally, is that they don't have to bother because the State will provide.

In any case, we are storing up more problems for the future because the vast majority of these migrants will not have the skills or qualifications to live without State help for the rest of their lives. 

That is also true for a large percentage of the British population, and it's growing

 

The fiscal benefits of mass immigration have long been debunked; in total, more is taken out over a lifetime than put back in. It’s all part of the mass brain washing - no one voted for net immigration of 1,000,000 a year and yet here we are force fed the ‘benefits’ of cultural enrichment, told how everyone is an asylum seeker (not an economic migrant) and how the economy ‘needs’ the man power (which is nonsense as GDP per capita plummets).

It’s an absolute mess and the cunning trick of the left (bearing in mind the left control education and media) was to call anyone questioning any aspect of mass immigration as racist thereby stifling any discussion or debate. 

Want to stop mass immigration? Turn off all the benefits. It’s the benefits that skew the natural economic order of global economic migration. 

It’s all very odd though in hindsight. Isn’t the primary obligation of any country’s government to its population? If the population truly knew back in the late 1990’s what lay ahead… and soon, those who can remember what life was like pre 1997 will pass on and no one will know or understand what has been lost.

An amazing trick to pull by the politicians and bizarrely across all parties.

But I then I really wonder about motivation - who has benefited? Was cheap unskilled labour that important in the scheme of economic growth? Were the routes to sorting out the white non working underclass that hard? Couldn’t law abiding working / middle classes be encouraged to have more children?

Hindsight gives us some answers but not all. At least the issues are coming out into the open. That said, I won’t hold my breath that Labour will tackle any aspect of immigration and integration and so the next 5 years (along with the country being bankrupt) is going to be a bumpy ride.

Everyone should of course read / listen to all of Douglas Murray’s books - quite prophetic given when they were written.