Reeceknight Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 ok so this isn't a defo but maybe I'm the pipe line, I have an aya no2 and a bettinsoli o/u and have had massive back problem Thai year, just got out of hospital after a week stay and have been told I have to have an operation. well I met a doctor who just have the opinion on maybe selling up and spending my money on some kind of auto for less recoil? This correct? if so are benelli or beretta worth swapping my guns for as shooting become very uncomfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Beretta Is gas, as is Winchester/browning Benelli isn't so for recoil go for gas, Having said that, have you thought of a kickeeze pad and 21g cartridges, A SxS will always recoil worse than an O/U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 if you are changing your guns, then a gas operated auto would be best as in beretta, or you could just shoot a lower weight cartridge through the guns you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have a Miroku which weighs 8lbs and I shoot 26 gram cartridges and I never feel recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Gas auto if you need a light low recoil gun. Or if its just recoil you want to avoid a heavy ish ou with lighter cartridges and a ISIS recoil system will make a massive difference compared to the no2 But good gun fit will always reduce felt recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have a Miroku which weighs 8lbs and I shoot 26 gram cartridges and I never feel recoil. I use 24g through mine and it has barely any recoil, less than a semi with 28g carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'm assuming the plastic synthetic semi autos like escorts are fairly light with comparison to my over and under? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have a form of Muscular Dystrophy - untreatable and progressive = my back is not very well. ( not that the rest of me is much better!) Clearly, on initial grant, the police were concerned about the potential harmful effects of recoil = plenty of research was done by me, and my GP, who, frankly is a star. The police were also very very good. Sensible discussions produced a sensible compromise of a restriction on 12G to gas operated self loader. I have a (S1) Mossberg 930. Gun fit is also very important, IMO, more important because of the difficulties. I also use a recoil pad - http://www.alpsgear.co.uk/12-evoshield on sale too at the mo!! Lots of useful info on Randy wakemans site:- http://randywakeman.com/Are-Autoloading-Shotguns-Too-Gimmicky.htm and some recomendations for good guns too. from the above, you will probably need a heavier gun, and lighter loads, but try anything and everything - the solution is a personnal one, and what works for me, might cripple you... ( I have a pal with an isis on his bang stick. not for me, but it works for him ) Good Luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Beretta a400 light with kick off walnut stock and fore end ...absolute dream to to shoot.. http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/444c6e93946a7e5913654566/Beretta+A400+Xplor+Light/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 As Welshwarrior says ... Isis, good fit and light loads may improve things but a heavier gun might add to your discomfort ... I prefer to use a light 28 gauge with 21g rather than a heavier 12 with a similar load... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I had a trapped sciatic nerve a few years ago, and as a result traded in my 12g shotties for the same in 20g. My reasoning was less gun weight to carry plus hopefully less recoil. The latter can be a balance, as the lighter weight 20g will recoil more than the same in 12g if the same weight cartridges are used. I now have a Beretta 391 s/a plus a Beretta Silver Pigeon. Certainly the guns are lighter in weight, and I have less back problems as a result. I use 28g cartridges through the s/a and have not noticed any appreciable decrease in my carts/kill ratio. I do have to be careful with the 'correct' weight carts in the Silver Pigeon, and all I can say is that so far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 gas operated franchi 612/712/raptor will do the job well. made with benelli parts etc including rotating bolt system.(that most beretta's dont have!) weight 7lb, and if you can find a grifone weight is 6lb 12 ish! lent one to a keeper freind for 6 months after a shoulder op, he didnt want to give it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have arthritic wrists so I've opted for a 20 using mostly 25grm loads and a Urika 2 12g with no more than 30grms through it. Works for me. The 20 is light to carry if I'm walking and the 12 is great in the hide where it rests on my knee when not actually shooting. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Whilst it will make the gun heavier to carry, you could increase the weight of your gun. Weights in the stock and forend will reduce the recoil, without the expense of changing your gun and getting another which fits the same. You can also get recoil reducers to fit inside the stock. My youngest, who has more muscles than you can point a stick at, broke his shoulder blade quite badly at motocross. He has one of the gel pack recoil pads in his skeet vest, which does the trick. All the above have the advantage of minimum cost and disruption. Good luck with whatever you decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 A good friend I shoot with has a Beretta Urika 2 for this exact reason. With a soft recoil pad and the recoil reduction system in the stock it really does feel gentle in comparison to an O/U, and even more so than a S/S. It's that gentle a small child could use it as long as they could handle the size! I hope you find a solution to your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 shoot subsonics / training ammo. try some at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 get a 20 bore auto,light and you won't feel a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Any beretta with the kick off system there is no noticeable recoil even with really heavy loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 The simple sensible thing is to start off trying light loads in your existing guns. A box or two of 21 Gramme loads and/or some subsonic/trainer loads - and see how you get on. If these are still too high in recoil, then changing a gun would be the next step, but that will cost more - and changing guns nearly always has an element of relearning before you get good results. Hull CompX 21 Gramme are a widely available load - which I have used as my regular - and like very much. I have seen plenty of other good feedback about them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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