armsid Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 with the vote on independance for scotland approaching ,what would happen to shooting ie FAC,s based in scotland movement of firearms to shoots in scotland and other shooting / fishing etc.pastimes?your comments please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I can only assume if they get independence Then it will be the same as any other country.... Obtain permit... Based on the fact that their acceptance to the EU is not guarenteed ( Spain likely to block to hold back on the Basque issue) An European firearms pass probably won't be enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Are you watching braveheart too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 We can work something out, PM me for entry payment :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) It will mean the Scott's will need a passport to come to gods country. For me if they choose independence, it should mean exactly that, no money from our coffers, no military/navy cover, get their own. Independent should mean to stand on your own in all matters. Figgy Edited January 25, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It will mean the Scott's will need a passport to come to gods country. For me if they choose independence, it should mean exactly that, no money from our coffers, no military/navy cover, get their own. Independent should mean to stand on your own in all matters. Figgy Yep no more benefit cheques from the civilised world ,no more N.H.S.no more free prescriptions ,no more free university education,and as figgy says you'll need a passport / visa to come into the greatest country on earth .Lets see how popular fat **** Salmond is when this little lot is implemented back to living in caves for our caledonian cousins methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It will also mean we probably won't see another labour government in Westminster , every cloud an all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpentermark Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I know a few good brickies............. Might need to add a few courses to Hadrians wall?! (Keep em oot)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Chances are it'll become a gun free zone...for the greater good of the populace...sort of thing! SNP plans for ALL guns are well known. STATE MONOPOLY of such things: as guns are evil tools and the main cause of fatality in Scotland... Never mind the illegal drug users in Edinburgh making the city the heroin capital of the UK..no possible problems there as heroin is already illegal so no use as a sexy vote grabber/headline banner for the SNP/journalist-Glasgow-media mutual backscratching fanclub. Where do I apply for the hot dog concession & stadium seating rights? Set up just South of the border & watch the fun and games as King Alec's new empire collapses around his ears... He'll get a warmer reception in future history than Guido Fawkes - though the dummies will need a hell of a lot more stuffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherandSon Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Don't you already need a permit for an airgun? I can only imagine it will get allot worse with firearms! I can't see them getting independence, all the Scots I work (in scotland) with said they'll vote no. Only ever met 2 who said Yes! Plus they all seem to think they'll be set up for life with the oil & gas! But the oil rigs arent Scotlands, they're in international waters, Shell is Dutch, Total is French, Marathon is American and BP and BG are British!! So where is all this oil coming from? Edited January 26, 2014 by FatherandSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 samon want's independence, he also want's the rest of Briton to pay for it lets hope the limp wrist government don't give in to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 If the Scots want to "stand on their own two feet" then the future wont be quite so rosy - for them or us. However, I think the English and maybe Welsh backlash would see an isolated Scotland where 'progress' will be backward. Agriculture will largely fail out of the EU etc. Salmond, as said, will not be another Robert the Bruce. One has to wonder - why ? Because powerful people want more power and control or they are drunk on the drug of Scottish 'Independence' and cannot work the sume out. Still, each and every Scot only will choose and be personally responsible for the future. I too would like a vote, since I have paid some of the bills during my employment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) It will mean the Scott's will need a passport to come to gods country. For me if they choose independence, it should mean exactly that, no money from our coffers, no military/navy cover, get their own. Independent should mean to stand on your own in all matters. Figgy Thing is, they will still have British passports. Even if they had a 'Scottish' passport, you can guess which one they will bring out when they wake up in foreign prison after a holiday bender. Running 500+ embassies and consulates is not cheap. Edited January 26, 2014 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Don't burst a vein, it is highly unlikely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) As I've said Independce is just that. If the vote for it they should be truely Independant no handouts and no nothing and certainly their own passports. If they want their own country and vote that way, we should sever the umbilical cord overnight. Same with Wales, want their own Parliment fine should stand on their own then. Figgy Edited January 26, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Don't burst a vein, it is highly unlikely to happen. About the only thing I agree with you on, just spent a week on a course that had 6 jocks on it, to a man they were so against independance it was really eye opening, especially their venom to salmond. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 About the only thing I agree with you on, just spent a week on a course that had 6 jocks on it, to a man they were so against independance it was really eye opening, especially their venom to salmond. KW When working offshore most of the Scott's are against it as they can see the bigger picture, the oil alone is not enough to support the country in the way it is now. It would implode quicker than Greece or a third world despot country. I have no problem with a unified UK but if that's what they want and choose the Scottish Parliment should be taken out, they had MP's in government looking after their interests. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Its wrong that all four nations are not given the vote to remain within a union or not ... its possible that the majority of English may not want to be in a union with the other nations . Like wise for the Welsh and Northern Irish ... but! ... only the Scottish are given the vote, which is unfair .. l have my own opinion of what l'd like and would like to express my preferrence via the ballot box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yep no more benefit cheques from the civilised world ,no more N.H.S.no more free prescriptions ,no more free university education,and as figgy says you'll need a passport / visa to come into the greatest country on earth .Lets see how popular fat **** Salmond is when this little lot is implemented back to living in caves for our caledonian cousins methinks. I didn't realise the NHS and the armed forces were exclusively funded by England and English taxpayers... will our hospitals and medical staff evaporate and Faslane sink without trace? As said, independence is highly unlikely - I am against it but some of the arguments for and against and quite amusing to observe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterford103 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I live in the SNP heartland and most folks I speak to cringe when they think about King Alex and his gang of three cronies being in charge of an Independent Scotland . The Scots are too canny to fall for the skewed rhetoric and damned lies , The Scottish Nazi Party might be here to stay , sadly but I think that Independent Scotland is a bridge too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byjovecarruthers Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I didn't realise the NHS and the armed forces were exclusively funded by England and English taxpayers... will our hospitals and medical staff evaporate and Faslane sink without trace? As said, independence is highly unlikely - I am against it but some of the arguments for and against and quite amusing to observe. An independant Scotland will be nuclear free according to Alex Salmond. Therefore Faslane will up sticks and relocate to Barrow in Furness or West Wales and the nuclear power stations will be decommissioned forthwith. In fact if they really want to be nuclear free they would have to come off the national grid full stop to ensure they aren't using any of that nasty nuclear produced English energy. Like most of the policies of the SNP it hasn't been thought through properly. I don't think Alex Salmond himself wants independence as he entire raison d'être is based upon campaigning for independence. If they got it then what's poor Alex do from then on?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowdie2013 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Some of the posts are uneducated and laughable. Scotland has contributed its fair share and then some into the UK. If we're nothing but scroungers then why is Cameron and the rest of the better together as worried about Scotland going alone? BTW I'm on the fence until I hear something from either camp that isn't just tick for tack drivel. One things for sure, having listened to that balloon David mundel on the TV this morning is it any wonder the Tories don't do well in Scotland! He's like a character from south park or the Simpsons....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Don't burst a vein, it is highly unlikely to happen. Come on Henry, don't be so negative. This post will run for a bit and give us some fun before it's stopped for becoming racist. I would suggest that politics and common sense never, ever go together.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Problem I can see is people talking of Gods own country seem mainly English, and anti Scottish or Welsh but pro keeping the act of union. Seems they're as unhappy with the union but without any direction. I was born in Yorkshire Gods own, blah blah of Scotish parent and live now in my adopted country of Wales , and I'm very proud of all the differences that make the union Great, but I hate English imperialists calling Welsh or Scots them and miss using England when they mean Great Britain or the UK. We are in a time of breaking down of barriers, whilst increasing borders, it's not something I'm happy with but it's global. Now who wants out of Europe. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would love to have an adult debate on here about this subject, however from some of the drivel that has been mentioned already I won't waste my time even attempting it. Seriously it's no wonder some of my fellow patriots detest the English when you read some of the **** on this thread. I work with lots of English lads and we have a right laugh at each other, banter. But some of the comments so far are a joke! And only fuel those on the fence to vote Yes. That's only going to be bad for everyone in the UK, well except fat Eck and his side kick. For the record I'm against it and detest the SNP. However if things will be so rosey without us, why are the London big guns so against it? I think Scotland could go it alone but I believe the UK as a whole are better together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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