FalconFN Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Sorry but you are so way off the scale with this post. Those parents didn't anticipate that their country would be torn apart by civil war,devastating towns and destroying the countries infrastructure. Please put at least a modicome of thought in to your posts. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 You say look them in the eye and say it, no problem doing so what so ever. We can't help everyone in all the world when bad things happen. Why would you think we wouldn't, not our problem same as starving kids in Africa not our problem, I feel for them but let's get our own sorted before others. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) A few hundred women and children some of whom have had rape and sexual violence used as a weapon against them, is that a big ask? A christian country...Hmm on this one I agree, we should and must do something if only for the women and kids, mass economic immigration bears no resemblance to the needs of these poor ****, they are desperate and anyone who opposes giving them a little help albeit far far to late is bereft of humanity. KW Edited January 29, 2014 by kdubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) As I see it most of the problems in these countries if caused by the big multi national companies oil and mining etc etc they take whatever it is oil ore and instead of making shore that the money that they pay for it goes to help the people that live there they give it to whoever has got the most guns and use them to keep the people quiet. This is what is behind all of the problems around the world as long as we get the oil to put in our cars and power stations for the most part we do not give a **** about the people that live there and that is why they hate us and who can blame them why the hell should some shake and his family be rolling in money when the rest of the people live in poverty. What would people in this country have said if when they first found oil in the north sea all of the money instead of going to our government it went in to the queens bank account to spend on herself and her family I for one would have been over the moon after all it is her country so she should have what ever it had to give not us we are just workers not the chosen ones. Edited January 29, 2014 by four-wheel-drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxie Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) With a 60 odd million population surely we can offer some shelter to 500 or so Syrian refugees.Show some compassion, eh. Edited January 29, 2014 by maxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 With a 60 odd million population surely we can offer some shelter to 500 or so Syrian refugees.Show some compassion, eh. There is already over 1000 Syrian refugees here Plus thousands of refugee and asylum seekers from numerous other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We need another remote Island to put all these unwanted people onto to keep them safe for a time before sending them back to their own countries. When its safe to do so, not put extra burden on our own home economy. And then loosing thousands of them when they decide to disapear. All the European countries could fund this, which island should we use. Australia is gone now along with HongKong. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We need another remote Island to put all these unwanted people onto to keep them safe for a time before sending them back to their own countries. When its safe to do so, not put extra burden on our own home economy. And then loosing thousands of them when they decide to disapear. All the European countries could fund this, which island should we use. Australia is gone now along with HongKong. Figgy Not sure which island but we could call it Syriael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 on this one I agree, we should and must do something if only for the women and kids, mass economic immigration bears no resemblance to the needs of these poor ****, they are desperate and anyone who opposes giving them a little help albeit far far to late is bereft of humanity. KW Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Oh my god! How will we fit them I amongst the floods of Romanians and Bulgarians we were all so certain would turn up but decided somewhere far more interesting instead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It would do you all good to stop reacting and think. Most of the refugees dont want to leave Syria, certainly not the middle east, since culturally, ect that is their HOME. It makes much more sense to help them and treat them where they are locally safe and as they would wish take field hospitals e.g - The UNHCR says there are some 30,000 such people in acute need of help and counselling (more use if you speak Syrian) . Britain has supported the humanitarian effort to the tune of £600M, more than the rest of Europe put together and second only to the US. You cant just put orphaned tortured and abused children and women on a plane and send them round the world away from extended families, cultural links etc - talk about making PTSD worse ! Lets make stupid comments about them being only kids so let them die - its about time those who can did help - we have and in the best way possible - bringing the most disadvantaged here is not about anything other than conscience salving because we have to take some . They ALL (11,000,000 +, displaced internally and refugees) need the help where they are. Everything on here turns into the fors and againsts immigration. This simply has nothing to do with immigration. As for Christianity, this is a Muslim Versus Muslim conflict with the different beliefs supporting the killing of innocents. Dont talk to me about religeon and get back in your box Henry. Sorry but sometimes the trite comments on here really **** me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Well done Kes, some good points there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Well said Kes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Sorry but sometimes the trite comments on here really **** me off. I think any decent minded person would agree with you, the level of moronic responses beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Religion aside I believe that asylum should be given to the vulnerable and yes, that has been abused, but it is no reason to withdraw it from Syrian people. The fact that other countries should be doing so too (and may or may not be doing so) is no reason to decline to help these people ourselves. Come the revolution we may be in their position ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It's a hard one. Especially if you have kids of your own. I see the papers mentioning murders and stuff daily, but kids? that's not fair - they don't understand. I am not afraid to say that when I took my 2.5 year old to bed one evening cradling her in my arms as she had fallen asleep downstairs, I laid her in bed and saw the picture in my mind of a father carrying his dead 3 year old with blown off feet etc... the look of innocence was the same on both faces. I sat down for a few minutes and the thought of that with my child crossed my mind and I actually welled up. A lot of those being killed aren't fighting either side, they are caught in the middle. And I would happily temporarily house someone if necessary whilst the situation was sorted. The issue is that the issue won't be sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We need another remote Island to put all these unwanted people onto to keep them safe for a time before sending them back to their own countries. When its safe to do so, not put extra burden on our own home economy. And then loosing thousands of them when they decide to disapear. All the European countries could fund this, which island should we use. Australia is gone now along with HongKong. Figgy There are some lovely artificial islands close to their home in Dubai. I'm sure they'd love it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Religion aside I believe that asylum should be given to the vulnerable and yes, that has been abused, but it is no reason to withdraw it from Syrian people. The fact that other countries should be doing so too (and may or may not be doing so) is no reason to decline to help these people ourselves. Come the revolution we may be in their position ! The problem is in all of this that you can't put religion aside as it is the root cause of the conflict, yet again. Come the revolution (and it will come) we will be in their position but ask yourself who will take us in as refugees??? Probably the most sensible post so far from Kes, the problem won't be solved by breaking up families and sending half of them to a foreign country, which for the time being has a greatly different way of life to what they are used to. Other countries should put in as we have, pretty ironic when the idiot balls was blathering on about how the better off here should be stuck with a 50p tax rate that it is estimated would bring in just £100,000,000 per annum when we've bunged six times that amount, which we can ill afford towards the Syria crisis already!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpentermark Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 A couple of posts now have said "come the revolution"! What would be one of the main reasons for revolt in this country? Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 The problem is in all of this that you can't put religion aside as it is the root cause of the conflict, yet again. Rubbish, it was Assad using his bully boy tactics to put down the uprising that was set to either topple him and his cronies or cut their cash flow, he saw what was happening/happened elsewhere and was bricking it. There were those who wanted a better life, a better life that they saw could be possible through more freedom, which of course the ruling elite could allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I've seen some **** posted on here before, including some of mine, but some of these responses begger belief! Innocent children are dying, women raped and ordinary people murdered. People that just want to work and look after their kids like the rest of us! Comments about the Poles don't help, don't forget that Poland was an ally in WW2, look at the Polish aircrew that made such a contribution to the Battle of Britain, in fact people from all corners of the world helped when we needed it, including Syria. Give the needy sanctuary and maybe one day they'll go back to their homeland. Maybe if the £600 million was spent on eradicating muslim extremists we wouldn't have this problem? I can air that view but the same can be said for any religion, nearly all wars revolve around religion or a perception of it, that is the fault of the leaders and not the people. I like to think another way, if everything went to rat**** in this country then somebody somewhere would look after my Mrs kids and grandchildren even if I wasn't there. It's far to easy to jump on the bandwagon and say "don't help", well that's fine until it happens to you and it's your kid that is dying through lack of food or your daughter that has been raped multiple times. Help the suffering but shoot the bloody leaders and extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the govnor Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It would do you all good to stop reacting and think. Most of the refugees dont want to leave Syria, certainly not the middle east, since culturally, ect that is their HOME. It makes much more sense to help them and treat them where they are locally safe and as they would wish take field hospitals e.g - The UNHCR says there are some 30,000 such people in acute need of help and counselling (more use if you speak Syrian) . Britain has supported the humanitarian effort to the tune of £600M, more than the rest of Europe put together and second only to the US. You cant just put orphaned tortured and abused children and women on a plane and send them round the world away from extended families, cultural links etc - talk about making PTSD worse ! Lets make stupid comments about them being only kids so let them die - its about time those who can did help - we have and in the best way possible - bringing the most disadvantaged here is not about anything other than conscience salving because we have to take some . They ALL (11,000,000 +, displaced internally and refugees) need the help where they are. Everything on here turns into the fors and againsts immigration. This simply has nothing to do with immigration. As for Christianity, this is a Muslim Versus Muslim conflict with the different beliefs supporting the killing of innocents. Dont talk to me about religeon and get back in your box Henry. Sorry but sometimes the trite comments on here really **** me off. Good call kes. Lock stock and two smoking barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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castletyne Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 would those opposed rather the refugees from Syria died in their own country then came to ours? Children and adults are dying every day through war or starvation in many countries we cannot take them all Its easy to say lets bring them here but how many would go without their luxurys and give the money to charities to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Children and adults are dying every day through war or starvation in many countries we cannot take them all Its easy to say lets bring them here but how many would go without their luxurys and give the money to charities to help A few hundred isnt all of them though, its just doing something to help, instead of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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