TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As we are starting to use more steel shot, would there be any advantage to magnetising it to improve the pattern? Would the shot hold together during its flight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 some thing different haven't thought about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I thought steel patterns tighter than lead anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As we are starting to use more steel shot, would there be any advantage to magnetising it to improve the pattern? Hi Interesting thought on the down side would it try to grab the barrel and leave a hole in the center of the pattern ? All the best Of Would the shot hold together during its flight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I thought steel patterns tighter than lead anyway? It can never be tight enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 If you shoot at an angle downwards directly north it will magnetise the steel (wiki how) > http://www.wikihow.com/Magnetize-With-a-Hammer However it is a weak force, so a non starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 It can never be tight enough! How tight do you want it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 How tight do you want it? Oh about a 30" sphere at 55 yds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ,675 Terror choke should do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As we are starting to use more steel shot, would there be any advantage to magnetising it to improve the pattern? Would the shot hold together during its flight? No it would just stick to the guns barrel on the way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Oh about a 30" sphere at 55 yds! A pattern like that will be completely useless at 25 yards, you will just mince things. What's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 A pattern like that will be completely useless at 25 yards, you will just mince things. What's the point? Ideally for shooting at 55 yds, a nice long crossing CLAY for instance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'd have thought it would have to be pretty seriously magnetised to withstand the forces it will encounter once it leaves the muzzle enough to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Oh about a 30" sphere at 55 yds! Can be done, though you will sacrifice shorter range workable patterns. The biggest factor with steel is not long range patterns but retained velocity / energy, I find its more than possible to out pattern the longer range retained energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I would imagine that steel shot is made out of a very low carbon type. like the steel used in electric motors and transformers laminations which is designed to hold little or no permanent magnetism. It is possible that any attempt to magnetise it would fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'd have thought it would have to be pretty seriously magnetised to withstand the forces it will encounter once it leaves the muzzle enough to make a difference. Would it though, every pellet will be travelling down the barrel, through the choke and out in to free air together at the same or very similar speed, with a little magnetisation they may stay together just a little longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The further north (or south) one fires the gun, the greater the acceleration of the magnetised shot as it travels towards, and is correspondingly attracted by,the magnetic poles. Magnetised shot fired in an easterly or westerly direction would not travel in a straight line due to the above effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Would it though, every pellet will be travelling down the barrel, through the choke and out in to free air together at the same or very similar speed, with a little magnetisation they may stay together just a little longer. If your shot to stay together longer, less or no splits in the shotcup, no need to magnetise it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Have know knowledge of what magetising would do to the pattern , but doubt it would work unless the magnitism was very strong. Then a picture is forming in my mind of the pellets scattering with the force of the powder push , a pattern forming and once the energy declines the pellets all comming togeather in a ball. Just joking , but worth thinking about. Edited March 17, 2014 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Reload some with rare earth magnets but if it stays together you will have a solid slug. Better using choke and wad combo to do the job it's designed for. Try some wad cup that don't open out. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Neodymium shot might hold together. However, smallest size available is 6.4mm (approx SSSG) at £1/pellet, so about £30 per cartridge. http://e-magnetsuk.com/magnet_products/neodymium_magnets/spheres.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 ?I guess if you put a strong magnet on the steel pattern plate you would get no flyers either..........??!! it aint April 1 yet is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 If you are really that bothered about getting it to pattern at long range, invest in a suitable tight afterchoke. Me, i'll stick with less choke and still break the long clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 If you are really that bothered about getting it to pattern at long range, invest in a suitable tight afterchoke. Me, i'll stick with less choke and still break the long clays You started hitting them matt 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) If you are really that bothered about getting it to pattern at long range, invest in a suitable tight afterchoke. Me, i'll stick with less choke and still break the long clays Take a page out of "George Digweeds" book.....he's just about thegreatest clay shooter that there's ever been, and thats using ammo available to us all, he has no problems with 55yd crossers!!....most shooters havent got the skill to "out shoot" standard cartridges!!....you've got to ask yourself why others can do it with factory ammo and you/we cant?....answer= not good enough,dont waste time looking for the special cartridge, just use a pattern plate and practice and more practice, simple as that! best wishes...Dale, Edited March 19, 2014 by DerbyshireDale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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