Laird Lugton Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) A friend forwarded on an e-petition from an Animal Aid campaign in which they want the law changed to have CCTV installed in all slaughterhouses and monitored by an independent welfare body to detect abuses of animals. A good thing or a bad thing? http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/64997 http://www.slaughterhousecctv.org.uk Edited January 26, 2015 by Laird Lugton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Its a good thing in my opinion respect should be shown until the end BB nothing to hide = nothing to worry about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Definitely a good thing, why anybody would want to put a animal through unnecessary suffering is beyond me. I've always been taught to respect my quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glb8686 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Pretty pointless while we still have halal and kosher slaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Don't know how much use CCTV would be in a Halal establishment. It would probably be exempt for some obscure reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 It has to be a good thing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glb8686 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 A halal place can give the animals as much luxury as they want but while they're hacking them open whilst alive then why bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Don't know how much use CCTV would be in a Halal establishment. It would probably be exempt for some obscure reason.Yeah your right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 It would be a good thing, providing it is applied to all slaughter houses .... and I can't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah your right A halal place can give the animals as much luxury as they want but while they're hacking them open whilst alive then why bother. Doesn't stop folks eating it at their local curry house mind!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'd say a good thing but care should always be shown to animals and this would result in additional costs added to the meat production costs - I'd make it a levy on the supermarkets for who's greed many corners have been cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Definitely a good thing. I can't help but worry though, that it wouldn't give 100% coverage. The low lives who abuse animals in abbatoirs would probably get to know the black spots where they could still do it unseen. It's got to be a step in the right direction though. I also agree that any form of slaughter which does not stun an animal before it has its throat slit should be banned immediately. Edited January 26, 2015 by Blunderbuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 A halal place can give the animals as much luxury as they want but while they're hacking them open whilst alive then why bother. If Halal is performed correctly then its humane. A university (Canada I think) did a brain receptor test and it showed massve spikes in brain activity during the killing after animals were stunned and less brain spikes after halal. Things aren't always as they seem, it's best to be open minded. Some would say heart and lung shots are not humane as the animal sometimes runs a way before collapsing...? - ignorance can make people dislike things without fully understanding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Doesn't stop folks eating it at their local curry house mind!! Not just the curry house, you'd be surprised just how much is slaughtered under "halal" rules but you're not told about it. Just to avoid offending the few you understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinach Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Good thing, for many reasons. The halal has nothing to do with it. Animal aid on the other hand are a dangerous bunch of deluded vegans who don't really want you killing never mind eating animals. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I try to be realistic about slaughter, I'm a countryman and I've been around animals long enough to know what happens and I've seen it enough times, including slaughtering my own poultry. However, the one thing that has really upset me in the past was with a cow that was struggling with a large calf. The vet attended and decided that a caesarean wasn't practical so the cow went for slaughter. The cow died with a live calf still inside her and so that calf had to die as well. I wish now that someone had had the foresight to shoot the cow on the farm and at least try to get the calf out alive. Rules are rules I suppose but that situation seemed so wrong to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) If Halal is performed correctly then its humane. A university (Canada I think) did a brain receptor test and it showed massve spikes in brain activity during the killing after animals were stunned and less brain spikes after halal A university (Canada I think) did a brain receptor test and it showed massve spikes in brain activity during the killing after animals were stunned and less brain spikes after halal. Do you not think you would feel pain and distress if someone cut your throat. Anything the makes slaughter as humane as possible is a good thing if motoring slaughterhouses helps then it's worthwhile. If Halal is performed correctly then its humane How is it done correctly, compared with incorrectly. ? Religious slaughter techniques practised by Jews and Muslims are cruel and should be ended, says a scientific assessment from the Government's animal welfare advisers. The Farm Animal Welfare Council says that slitting the throats of the animals most commonly used for meat, chickens, without stunning, results in "significant pain and distress". The committee, which includes scientific, agricultural and veterinary experts, is calling for the Government to launch a debate with Muslim and Jewish communities to end the practice. Edited January 26, 2015 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Animal Aid are about as barmy as PETA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Animal Aid are about as barmy as PETA. Agreed generally speaking, but on this particular issue I think they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think it's a good idea. But it needs to be controlled to stop all the videos bing put on you tube. As that's just unnessacary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 It is a good idea, depending on who views the footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Its a good thing in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 good thing, if shown it might give people an insight of the true worth of meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 So you put in cctv for an animal rights group to view who think keeping sheep in fields is cruel, let alone killing them for food. They even want aquariums banned. You can make everything look bad if put enough spin on it. What will achieve apart from showing that animals get killed in abbatoirs? Sometimes less known the better. Don't even mention lung shots in deer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 That's why it needs to be controlled on who views it. So you put in cctv for an animal rights group to view who think keeping sheep in fields is cruel, let alone killing them for food. They even want aquariums banned. You can make everything look bad if put enough spin on it. What will achieve apart from showing that animals get killed in abbatoirs? Sometimes less known the better. Don't even mention lung shots in deer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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