old'un Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 In the light of the attacks in Paris and the French security forces raids this morning should we now be thinking of stopping anyone returning to the UK/Europe who as gone to Syria and what are their legal rights to return?My own feelings is we should make it 100% clear that if you go out to Syria you will not be welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 A tough one in reality.... citizens with legal protection etc. Look at Saker Aamer !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 In the light of the attacks in Paris and the French security forces raids this morning should we now be thinking of stopping anyone returning to the UK/Europe who as gone to Syria and what are their legal rights to return? My own feelings is we should make it 100% clear that if you go out to Syria you will not be welcome back. I'm pretty sure it's illegal under international law to make someone stateless, so I doubt they could be stopped from returning. However, there's no reason they couldn't be arrested the moment they set foot on EU/UK soil. I'm sure there must be something in law that could see them locked up as a threat to national security as was used in WW2. I'm thinking along the lines of Oswald Moseley. There's always the chance one or two could slip through the net though, and it's expensive to keep someone locked up, so having thought it through I'm leaning towards a drone strike in Syria. That should do the job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Has the Treason law ever been repealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Has the Treason law ever been repealed. Yes ,by tony blair, i wonder why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Has the Treason law ever been repealed. By George I think he has it, how many could we fit in to the Tower of London? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yes ,by tony blair, i wonder why Is it because he's a total and utter ****? Is he still the UN's Middle East peace envoy? He seems to have gone very quiet over the last few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Its difficult this. Whilst i follow the sentiment there are real humanitarian workers out there. Also Brits fighting for the other side / sides whatever they are. All makes drafting the rules more difficult. Let alone other areas of conflict, travelers to Kurdistan etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yes ,by tony blair, i wonder why Really? You couldn't make it up. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) In the light of the attacks in Paris and the French security forces raids this morning should we now be thinking of stopping anyone returning to the UK/Europe who as gone to Syria and what are their legal rights to return? Wasn't there talk about deporting the ones with dual citizenship.? Edited November 18, 2015 by Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Has the Treason law ever been repealed. Yes ,by tony blair, i wonder why No, it wasn`t repealed. The death penalty was removed and the maximum sentence placed at life imprisonment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southman1 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 My thoughts also that they could be. Tried for treason but ,I expect they woud say its,against their human rights and some do gooder lawyer will charge the tax payer millions to defend them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 The answer is, Yes. Temporary exclusion orders are permissible under counter terrorism laws.https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/factsheet-temporary-exclusion-orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Really? You couldn't make it up. Brilliant. So it was made up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 So it was made up... I have no idea, hence the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Is it because he's a total and utter ****? Is he still the UN's Middle East peace envoy? He seems to have gone very quiet over the last few days. Send him out to talk to them he likes to talk not sure he could do it man to man though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 The French police shoot 5000 rounds to day wonder how many people were shot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I have no idea, hence the question. The sentence was changed, but you can still get life for high treason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 No, it wasn`t repealed. The death penalty was removed and the maximum sentence placed at life imprisonment. And i wonder why tony did that?didn't fancy his head on a spike by traitors gate maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Camerion has a cunning plan. As isil haven't attacked us yet we should bomb them to divert attention from the french............. The French police shoot 5000 rounds to day wonder how many people were shot ? Spray and pray........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 And i wonder why tony did that?didn't fancy his head on a spike by traitors gate maybe. Well, we can dream eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 <script pagespeed_no_defer="" type="text/javascript">//=d.offsetWidth&&0>=d.offsetHeight)a=!1;else{c=d.getBoundingClientRect();var f=document.body;a=c.top+("pageYOffset"in window?window.pageYOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollTop);c=c.left+("pageXOffset"in window?window.pageXOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollLeft);f=a.toString()+","+c;b.b.hasOwnProperty(f)?a=!1:(b.b[f]=!0,a=a<=b.e.height&&c<=b.e.width)}a&&(b.a.push(e),b.d[e]=!0)};p.prototype.checkImageForCriticality=function(b){b.getBoundingClientRect&&q(this,b)};h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkImageForCriticality",function(b){n.checkImageForCriticality(b)});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkCriticalImages",function(){r(n)});var r=function(b){b.b={};for(var d=["IMG","INPUT"],a=[],c=0;c=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e)}b.g&&(e="&rd="+encodeURIComponent(JSON.stringify(s())),131072>=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e),d=!0);t=a;if(d){c=b.f;b=b.h;var f;if(window.XMLHttpRequest)f=new XMLHttpRequest;else if(window.ActiveXObject)try{f=new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP")}catch(k){try{f=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP")}catch(u){}}f&&(f.open("POST",c+(-1==c.indexOf("?")?"?":"&")+"url="+encodeURIComponent(b)),f.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded"),f.send(a))}}},s=function(){var b={},d=document.getElementsByTagName("IMG");if(0==d.length)return{};var a=d[0];if(!("naturalWidth"in a&&"naturalHeight"in a))return{};for(var c=0;a=d[c];++c){var e=a.getAttribute("pagespeed_url_hash");e&&(!(e in b)&&0=b[e].k&&a.height>=b[e].j)&&(b[e]={rw:a.width,rh:a.height,ow:a.naturalWidth,oh:a.naturalHeight})}return b},t="";h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.getBeaconData",function(){return t});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run",function(b,d,a,c,e,f){var k=new p(b,d,a,e,f);n=k;c&&m(function(){window.setTimeout(function(){r(k)},0)})});})();pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run('/mod_pagespeed_beacon','http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=300c8302c2526c386ed75e039680b54e&app=forums&module=ajax§ion=topics&do=quote&t=324937&p=2943435&md5check=3ee77ff7bfd984ba01c50ace1b2f639b&isRte=1,B6nXayd9mu,true,false,AdyHmoSI7IQ');//]]></script> &&0 Well, we can dream eh? OH i wish that dream became a reality, i would become a bounty hunter just to drag his sorry ***** into the court Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamey Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Is it because he's a total and utter ****? Is he still the UN's Middle East peace envoy? He seems to have gone very quiet over the last few days. Apparently the traitorous scum resigned nearly 6 months ago http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3099401/Tony-Blair-finally-quits-Middle-East-peace-envoy-claims-no-credibility-region.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 A large number of shots fired is far more likely to reflect difficulty in surpressing the enemy than people during wildly, especially in an urban setting. I've a few friends who have worked in private security and they have spoken of expending very high volumes of ammunition just extract from dodgy situations where they didn't need to fight their way any closer to the people shooting at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Did anyone hear that bloke on Any Answers last weekend. I'm sure he must be a Pigeon watch member. He was saying we should commandeer one of those God forsaken islands off Scotland and turn it into a concentration camp for anyone suspected of ISIL sympathies, and anyone who knew them and should have realised they were sympathisers to be thrown into. His closing comments were "And we will force feed them pork". I was laughing my head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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