BADGER.BRAD Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hello All,I'm completely new to shooting and would like to know you views on multiuse cartridges Clays and Pigeon ? Is there much difference and if so what are the differences and for what reasons. What would be the best compromise for both ? I'm not really taking makes but more about weights and shot size.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Your only real compromise will be a 28 gram load of English 7s or 6s , the reason being most if not all clay grounds do not allow larger loads / shot size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Your only real compromise will be a 28 gram load of English 7s or 6s , the reason being most if not all clay grounds do not allow larger loads / shot size. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Chances are you'll have a different coat, so have different shells ....... keep it simple though ... 28g 8's for clays, and 29g 6's like Hull Superfast for pigeons. Different shells as you're trying to accomplish different things ...... a) break a clay, and b) cleanly kill a wood pigeon. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 An ounce of 7's is the ideal compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER.BRAD Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thanks veryone for the help much appreciated, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Number 4 or 5 steel lightest fastest load you find then you can do duck over flashes and flight ponds also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 You won't be shooting clay pigeons with 4 or 5 steel though. Stick with 6/7/7.5 lead and you'll be fine for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 when I shoot clays, I buy the cheapest ones, they all break clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 when I shoot clays, I buy the cheapest ones, they all break clays. So don't the cheap game cartridges kill game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 For clays 21/24g of 7/8 for rough 30g of 6, or steel 5 if there are duck about or just keep a couple in a separate pocket for the odd occasion they are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I load my own 29grams of number 6and7.5 mixed I use them for everything happy medium great on clays and good on woodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravanman Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Justcartridges do a 28g 6.5 fibre and plastic wad. I might give them a try next. Edited February 1, 2016 by Caravanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 28gr clay load will kill pigeons you just have to be sensible with ranges and chokes. My father was a skeet champ in his time when everything was short open barrels and 9 shot and he shot thousands of pigeons with the same. You have to judge according to your skill level, if you can't hit a barn door at 30yds then a 32gr 5 shot would be a lot more humane on the humble pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 It still amazes me that folk still don't believe that the humble ounce of 7.5 is more than adequate for pigeons. One bloke on our pheasant shoot today killed several 40 yard pheasants with Eley Firsts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 It still amazes me that folk still don't believe that the humble ounce of 7.5 is more than adequate for pigeons. One bloke on our pheasant shoot today killed several 40 yard pheasants with Eley Firsts. I don't use anything else than 7.5 for woodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I've been looking at combining my cartridges for clays and woodies as at the moment I tend to buy far more expensive pigeon or game loads and they can be sat on the shelf for ages. You have to buy in quantity to get a decent price but then as I don't do a huge amount of game shooting they are hanging around. I have been looking for some in 7 shot, 28g minimum with a fibre wad, under £170 ish per 1000 but it's a very limited selection. This seems to be a good size for the pigeons at close-ish ranges and also not bad for clays and at a size and wad that everywhere will allow. Do you guys know any brands available in this size? One of the few I've found is Fiocchi Top One in 7.5 which I believe is an English 7? I've not tried them, though I do use FBlack's but they seem to be plastic wad only. Other than that, Gamebore Velocity 28g 7.5's seem to be the best for cheap but decent performance? Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Other than that, Gamebore Velocity 28g 7.5's seem to be the best for cheap but decent performance? Chris. I`ve been shooting Velocity+ for quite a few months now and I really like them. Great on the clays and perfectly good for pigeon shooting. Cheap too, I can buy them in fibre for £40 a slab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 im more than happy using 7.5 on pigeons, in range which decoying allows for they give a nice kill, i admit to having a few boxes of 6's in my bag when i go but thats only incase the pigeons dont play ball and theres crows about.. swap decoys over and change carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yep, they have done me ok on the pheasants this year too. It still amazes me that folk still don't believe that the humble ounce of 7.5 is more than adequate for pigeons. One bloke on our pheasant shoot today killed several 40 yard pheasants with Eley Firsts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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