fortune Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 one of the best players ever. A naturally gifted player in control of the game if not himself sometimes but then most geniuses have a few quirks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) You pay your money to watch him, that entitle you to do exactly that, watch HIM, and you watched him do what no other player in history has done or has the balls or status to do. People have won brand new Range Rovers for a 25 straight sequence at shooting, others have won cars, $25000 prizes for all round comps have been won by shooters, how about $150,000 for the Dubai winner and none of these events are anywhere near as globally televised or recognised. You can knock him all you like but he has a point when you look around at the absurd sums being paid to cringe worthy celebrities and footballers who as skilled as they may be compared to a Sunday player are NOTHING compared to a O'Sullivan. He knows his game and he knows what a 147 should be worth. The HG prize for clay shooting has stagnated at £100 for over three decades , perhaps if any of our winners had had the balls to stand up and say something it would have at least gone up to £400 by now, maybe we'd even be taken a bit more seriously. If you don't respect yourself enough they'll ride you, he has sent out a clear message to future organisers to up their Maximum prize money, yes £10k is a huge sum of money to most of us but that isn't the point here. Edited February 16, 2016 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I wonder if any bets were placed on Ronnie making a 147 in that round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/35581281 I've never been a big fan of O'Sullivan, but surely a stunt like this is bringing the game into disrepute? To deliberately turn down a 147 because £10,000 isn't enough is, I think, pretty reprehensible. It'd be small minded to suggest a ban and a fine of £10,001 wouldn't it? Apparently this prize money doubles like a roll over so .... he could be doing someone else a big favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The worse thing about this is Barry Hearn mouthing off. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/35581281 Is this the man who has leeched money out the the game for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 He might be a hero to some, but he could have been a bigger hero if he won it & donated it to a charity, £10,000 maybe SFA to him, but a life saver to some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) He might be a hero to some, but he could have been a bigger hero if he won it & donated it to a charity, £10,000 maybe SFA to him, but a life saver to some... But that wouldn't have achieved the message he was after would it, besides how does anyone know how much anyone already donates to charridy ? The point being missed here is that 147 had already been achieved a hundred times over by dozens of people, 146 on purpose hadn't am I the only one to geddit ? We all perceive what our trade is worth and charge accordingly, almost anyone can learn plumbing, almost anyone can learn how to serve burgers, next time my plumber asks for £50 call out before he's even decided what to charge for the rest when he gets here I'll try and see if he could be more reasonable and charge £7 per hour or at the very least donate his call out charge to charridy. Edited February 16, 2016 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I just watched a clip, and the pink shown was a lot easier than the black, which was very missable. In the interview afterwards, he said that the 147 was 'possibly' attainable, not 'probably'. He got possibly the highest break, but had he missed the black, that would have been doubtful. If he hadn't flippantly mentioned the bonus in the interview, no-one would be mouthing off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 But that wouldn't have achieved the message he was after would it, My opinion a bigger message would have been heard going down the charridy charity route.. Your right, anyone can learn plumbing I bet even bonny ronnie could, you want to give it a go, save yourself the call out fee....geddit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Why not just get the maximum and donate the money to charity? I'm sure quite a few would be more than happy with a ten grand donation.Edit: Just seen others have already mentioned the charity route, I hadn't read page 2 before replying. Edited February 16, 2016 by Muddy Funker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Well more people are talking about him now than if he had of knocked in the 147 so all is well in the publicity game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggsy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Billy.....he's his own man,and ESSEX,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 +1. The guy is a complete ****. Self promotion built on arrogance. If it's not cheating the game then it's cheating the fans. He was also once playing pretty badly against Hendry something happened, I.e. in-off or foul of some sort and he just walked up to Steven shook his hand and walked out of the arena with frames left to play. Hendry just looked bewildered. The fans again were cheated buy paying for a match they didn't get to watch. That's very unfair Trevor You must remember Ronnie has been struggling with mental illness for many years. He couldn't cope and had a melt down that's why he left Hendry standing. If you've never suffered with Mental illness you have NO IDEA imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's not the first time, well it sort of isn't, Couple of years ago he got into a position where he was on the final black for a 147, Before playing the shot he asked the ref what the bonus for a 147 was, the ref told him there wasn't a bonus for a 147 so he decided not to pot the black, The ref had a word and said "do it for the fans", he returned to the table and potted it. Now people on here are saying it's not disrespectful, but in my opinion it is for the fans.... they pay the entrance fee to see good snooker and maybe, just maybe a chance to see a 147, which may be the only time they will ever see one live, Then to have a player, any player not go through with it just because he doesn't think he is being paid enough is disrespectful.......well that's my tuppence worth anyway i agree, these people are not stars without fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 With the way O'Sullivan's brain is wired, he should have gone for the 147 and taken the 10k. It might be another 5 years before he hits any sort of form again. He's unbeatable when he's on the top of his game, but quite ordinary when he goes walkabout in his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Anyone who follows Ronnie follow him for the great snooker and the drama on this occasion they got both . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 With the way O'Sullivan's brain is wired, he should have gone for the 147 and taken the 10k. It might be another 5 years before he hits any sort of form again. He's unbeatable when he's on the top of his game, but quite ordinary when he goes walkabout in his head. I dare say the £6 million he`s won in prize money, not to mention whatever he`s made from endorsements and exhibition matches means he probably won`t be struggling in later life. As for "quite ordinary" well that`s a bit of a silly statement. There`s no doubt he`s beatable when his head isn`t in the game but a talent like his is never ordinary. Anyway here`s the latest from the man himself. O'Sullivan said: "I was thinking when I woke up this morning it would have been wonderful to get a maximum and give the money to charity. "If you had told the audience I would get a 146 and do that, they would have still gone out and bought tickets. "If someone wants to do better, here's my cue, chalk and waistcoat, go and do it." Sums it up rather nicely imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's not the first time, well it sort of isn't, Couple of years ago he got into a position where he was on the final black for a 147, Before playing the shot he asked the ref what the bonus for a 147 was, the ref told him there wasn't a bonus for a 147 so he decided not to pot the black, The ref had a word and said "do it for the fans", he returned to the table and potted it. Now people on here are saying it's not disrespectful, but in my opinion it is for the fans.... they pay the entrance fee to see good snooker and maybe, just maybe a chance to see a 147, which may be the only time they will ever see one live, Then to have a player, any player not go through with it just because he doesn't think he is being paid enough is disrespectful.......well that's my tuppence worth anyway Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I dare say the £6 million he`s won in prize money, not to mention whatever he`s made from endorsements and exhibition matches means he probably won`t be struggling in later life. As for "quite ordinary" well that`s a bit of a silly statement. There`s no doubt he`s beatable when his head isn`t in the game but a talent like his is never ordinary. Anyway here`s the latest from the man himself. O'Sullivan said: "I was thinking when I woke up this morning it would have been wonderful to get a maximum and give the money to charity. "If you had told the audience I would get a 146 and do that, they would have still gone out and bought tickets. "If someone wants to do better, here's my cue, chalk and waistcoat, go and do it." Sums it up rather nicely imo. I quite like that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 A floored talent , unfortunately . No one is bigger than the game they are competeing in. The vast majority of his supporters would give a body part for £ 10,000 and that's rubbing their noses in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 legend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wonder if any bets were placed on Ronnie making a 147 in that round? probably not by his friends & family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I dare say the £6 million he`s won in prize money, not to mention whatever he`s made from endorsements and exhibition matches means he probably won`t be struggling in later life. As for "quite ordinary" well that`s a bit of a silly statement. There`s no doubt he`s beatable when his head isn`t in the game but a talent like his is never ordinary. He was very ordinary between 2009 and 2012. I'm not denying his talent - just his application of it at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 He was very ordinary between 2009 and 2012. I'm not denying his talent - just his application of it at times. 2008/2009 won the Masters 8th Premier League title 2009/2010 Number 1 ranked player 2009/2010 season. Semi finals in the UK Championships Runner up in the Masters Quarter finals in the World Championships 2010/2011 10th maximum break won the Premier League for the ninth time in 14 years Quarter finals in the World Championships 2011/2012 won his 10th Premier League title Won the World Championships And I haven`t bothered mentioning smaller, lesser known titles that he won during that period. If that`s ordinary then by God I wish I was an ordinary snooker player, and I bet a lot of the pros do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/35615572 Well done Ding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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