Penelope Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Anyone going to the Gundog day on Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 No I would not go out of principle the way they breed some dogs to please the human eye not for the good of the dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 No I would not go out of principle the way they breed some dogs to please the human eye not for the good of the dogs. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The KC has been the ruination of some very good gun dog breeds - Whatever happened to the Labrador who now look like whippets and cockers, well enough said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Show Labs look nothing like whippets. The Lab who did well at Crufts last year was more like a pig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 No I would not go out of principle the way they breed some dogs to please the human eye not for the good of the dogs. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I have 2 bassets they are "old breed shape The big massive wrinkly fat things that are called show dogs are the very definition of all that's wrong with the kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 No I would not go out of principle the way they breed some dogs to please the human eye not for the good of the dogs.+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The Lab from last year would be hard pressed to last beyond the first drive , let alone a whole day retrieving , and the only way that's going over a fence is if someone provides a ladder ...beggars belief that is supposed to be the breed standard for a Labrador retriever .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchers Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The KC has been the ruination of some very good gun dog breeds - Whatever happened to the Labrador who now look like whippets and cockers, well enough said! If you are looking at labs like that I think they should be doing selective breeding which they should be doing anyway to get s good sound Gun dog.so god know what you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Look at German shepherds with sloped backs... Doesn't do them good! The English bull terrier never used to have a long nose and they've ruined that one as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 No I would not go out of principle the way they breed some dogs to please the human eye not for the good of the dogs. Totally agree with the above but think the problem with lightly built labs lies firmly with the field trial fraternity and their desire for speed and style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Went to crufts last year, not the gun dog day, the Saturday as this was the day I could make. Anyway taking out trying to change the world, I really enjoyed the DAY, being able to look at all the different breeds of dog, that have nothing to do with shooting. And there are a lot of other stalls to look around. I own a big boned Labrador and a racing snake one both from the same lines which I had a hand in the breeding, they have good coats because they live outdoors not through breeding. So Penelope if you fancy a decent day mooching about with dogs in mind go. But if you have bred the perfect dog yourself like some on here, I wouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I'm going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The KC has been the ruination of some very good gun dog breeds - Whatever happened to the Labrador who now look like whippets and cockers, well enough said! That is nothing to do with the KC , it more to do with the trialling fraternity wanting sleek fast dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I shall be going G. The GF wants to go and has never been before. I have been twice, many years ago when it was at Earl's Court. I'm more interested in the BASC sponsored Gamekeepers show, and the gundog displays rather than the breed type showing. Went to crufts last year, not the gun dog day, the Saturday as this was the day I could make. Anyway taking out trying to change the world, I really enjoyed the DAY, being able to look at all the different breeds of dog, that have nothing to do with shooting. And there are a lot of other stalls to look around. I own a big boned Labrador and a racing snake one both from the same lines which I had a hand in the breeding, they have good coats because they live outdoors not through breeding.So Penelope if you fancy a decent day mooching about with dogs in mind go.But if you have bred the perfect dog yourself like some on here, I wouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Have a good day, my wife enjoyed it and she is not that interested in dogs. Will have to have a flight again, when you come this way in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Look at German shepherds with sloped backs... Doesn't do them good! The English bull terrier never used to have a long nose and they've ruined that one as well... The sloped backs causes hip problems and the breedesr turn out docile dogs suited to the show ring, not the breed's original purpose. A dog that allows a judge to examine its knackers isn't going to be much use on a Friday night in Rotherham town centre. It had got to the point where my old firm was importing over one third of its GSDs from Eastern Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The sloped backs causes hip problems and the breedesr turn out docile dogs suited to the show ring, not the breed's original purpose. A dog that allows a judge to examine its knackers isn't going to be much use on a Friday night in Rotherham town centre. It had got to the point where my old firm was importing over one third of its GSDs from Eastern Europe. I have 2, ones 50kg and is nearly 2 years old. Big mum and dad. Personal protection and guard dog as much as a family dog. Littleun is 7 months, white sable and weighs in at 24kg. Fair size for a bitch both with STRAIGHT backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) The sloped backs causes hip problems and the breedesr turn out docile dogs suited to the show ring, not the breed's original purpose. A dog that allows a judge to examine its knackers isn't going to be much use on a Friday night in Rotherham town centre. It had got to the point where my old firm was importing over one third of its GSDs from Eastern Europe. That comment had me in creases but fair point. Worthy of James Herriot Edited March 10, 2016 by keg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 were going Saturday, always watch it on tv. looking forward to it as we are hopefully getting a lab pup this year so need to get food bowls chew toys and anything else we see that might be of use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Watch out for the idiot who demonstrated against crufts last year or possibly the year before. He comes from Leeds and is an ardent anti-shooting anti-hunting anti-fishing lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 . It had got to the point where my old firm was importing over one third of its GSDs from Eastern Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 were going Saturday, always watch it on tv. looking forward to it as we are hopefully getting a lab pup this year so need to get food bowls chew toys and anything else we see that might be of use Get loads of vetbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 People that breed show dogs ruin breeds not the kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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