Would you pay to see your GP ?

[ph5172]

 

Its not that straight forward, it can put people off going to the doctor that need to see a doctor.

 

GP charges in Ireland deter patients.

 

 

I agree, those with a genuine complaint would still think ... huuummm am i really ill £10s worth or shall i leave it a bit and see where i am in a week or so, its very similar to prescriptions - £8 odd a pop and i bet a few people think i will see how i go for a bit prior to actually getting it.

 

Those who would be exempt payment would still go regardless.... because they would be exempt payment

 

I think i remember reading or hearing that over 70% of GP visits were carried out by 20% of people (or i may have just made it up)

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

I agree, those with a genuine complaint would still think ... huuummm am i really ill £10s worth or shall i leave it a bit and see where i am in a week or so, its very similar to prescriptions - £8 odd a pop and i bet a few people think i will see how i go for a bit prior to actually getting it.

 

Those who would be exempt payment would still go regardless.... because they would be exempt payment

 

I think i remember reading or hearing that over 70% of GP visits were carried out by 20% of people (or i may have just made it up)

 

 

Blimey, if you can find that it is worrying!

[69chris]

 

I am told that our surgery is always at least half an hour behind scheduled appointment times. I guess they look on "no show" patients as something of a plus.

iv no idea, aint been to the doc's in 15 years.....but still paying every month regardless

[flynny]

Edit : that and outlawing first cousin marriage to try and stem the tide of children being born with preventable genetic defects, often fatal or requiring life long intensive health care.

Bang on ,

Flynny

 

i remember watching a documentary about this a few years ago , it was people from asian families that married their cousins to keep the family money together , the end result is severely disabled children , at the time , the documentary claimed that each of these disabled children was costing the state £250,000 per year , apparently , this isnt a problem in their country of origin(yes i know many are uk born)as these disabled children just die from lack of medical care. quite shocking on many levels really , and a problem that will never be addressed .

 

im of the very firm opinion , that free medical treatment , shouldnt be offered until the patient has been , living and working and paying tax in the uk for some considerable time.

 

i also think that unemployed people should move to one side in the queue to allow working people to get treatment first , that doesnt mean that an unemployed person that is having a heart attack should wait while i get the boil on my bum lanced , it means that they are more able to attend at different times , without causing too much disruption to their life.

 

the nhs is great , but its being raped daily .

BANG ON +2

 

Plus our elderly who have contributed, not only with contributions but with fighting for GREAT BRITAIN so we could be GREAT,

 

I've had a few drams , so won't contribute any further,

 

BUT!!!!!!!! I don't care what colour ,creed or religion you are,

 

No contributions===

 

BACK OF THE BLEDDY QUE,( and I know that's why our grandparents fought, so everyone could be free with no biased)

 

 

But enough is enough

 

NEXT!!!!!!!!!

 

Flynny

 

Flynny

Edited May 14, 2017 by flynny

[bornfree]

If I could get an appointment I would happily pay £50

[flynny]

If I could get an appointment I would happily pay £50

Why should you though?

 

Unless your a work shy bum?

 

( shut it Flynny , you'll get banned)

 

Night night

 

Flynny

Edited May 14, 2017 by flynny

[ph5172]

They recon the 'average' GP appointment sets the NHS back £19 based on the amount of money given to the practice per patient on the books, obviously the less you go the more that appointment costs in theory but its all balanced out

 

On a side note the average person makes 7 visits a year - if thats average i must have banked a fair few visits by now!

[Bigbob]

I wouldnt mind paying as i never go unless i'm really bad as said it would cut out all the ones that dont turn up , and all the ones looking for a line to go on holiday etc Oh yes it happens last two times i ended up going private got my ankle cleaned out this time its my knee got great service then tried to make an appointment at the doctors for three weeks time to renew my line to be told there's no appointments unless you phone at 08.30 on the day in question then its always engaged then when you do get threw Oh sorry there's no appointments left . Our surgery even dose two late nights a week but why dont they work any 5 days from 7 like most folk seem to do now days that would reduce the lists

[TaxiDriver]

If I hadn't paid NI contributions all the time I've been in employment, I might.

If I could get an appointment with a Dr who speaks English like a native of this country and not like someone who's only been here a couple of weeks - I might.

[four-wheel-drive]

If I hadn't paid NI contributions all the time I've been in employment, I might.

If I could get an appointment with a Dr who speaks English like a native of this country and not like someone who's only been here a couple of weeks - I might.

But that is down to bad government not training our own doctors and nurses trying to do it on the cheep letting other pore countries pay to train them then bribing them to come and work over here.

[Winston72]

If I hadn't paid NI contributions all the time I've been in employment, I might.

If I could get an appointment with a Dr who speaks English like a native of this country and not like someone who's only been here a couple of weeks - I might.

A timelord? ..................I'll get my coat

If the NHS got rid of all foreign staff it would close overnight

[Davyo]

Who gives a damn 'what nationality the doctor is'.The post was about 'would you be happy to pay to see your or a GP.

Edited May 14, 2017 by Davyo

[Gordon R]

AIDS treatment for anyone who lands here off the banana boat

 

 

You have no idea of the scale.

[paulnix]

When hospitals sends it's managers, consultants and admin staff to a hotel 15 miles away for the day costing them over £300 a head for a seminar about saving money then you pretty sure they know more about wasting money than saving it, they need to think and act like a modern private business and not like an public sector employer where more people are doing paperwork than actually working.

[Gordon R]

Totally agree.

[Bigbob]

my line runs out wednesday 24th no appointments any for thursday 25 th no appointments only bookable appointments if you phone in at 08.30 on the day . if they know theres no appointments that far in advance why no put more doctors on theres 7 doctors in that surgery

[Twistedsanity]

I had one gp who told me I should cut a transdermal jelly filled fentanyl patch in half to get a half dose(would have got the entire weeks supply in one hit and quite probably died) and another who offered me a referral to the local drug and alcohol abuse team after I had to explain to them the prescription I wanted was a licenced tested government approved cannabis based medicine for pain and muscle spasms called sativex. The most recent one refused to increase my daily painkiller doseage by a neglegable amount and insisted I took a referral to the local hospital pain clinic where I have been 3 times and discharged as there were no more painkillers they could suggest (tried them all apparently), all in my.notes and I have been taking these high strength painkillers daily for the last 11 years, and they want me to pay extra for that?

[Vince Green]

A timelord? ..................I'll get my coat

 

If the NHS got rid of all foreign staff it would close overnight

That's part of the problem, decades of not training anywhere near enough of our own doctors and nurses was very short sighted.

 

I don't care where the doctor comes from as long as they are competent and didn't down load their qualifications from a website in Manilla.

[scolopax]

I had to go to hospital for an outpatient visit and I was shocked by the amount of fat overweight people who were in the hospital. And what were they doing? All of them were stuffing food or sugar drinks in their mouths.

I went into my GP' s surgery, and it was full of old people. An increasingly ageing population is the paramount reason for the pressure on the health service.

[Lloyd90]

My sister and her husband now have a monthly prescription to some online GP service, they can call and speak to them as much as they want at the drop of a hat.

 

The doctor can do most things or tell them to go into a surgery.

 

I can't recall if they can mail out a prescription or not though sorry.

[AVB]

I would pay for a specific time slot at a weekend or evening. I also feel that people should have to pay for missed appointments.

 

To be fair to my local surgery whenever I have rung up for an appointment I have been seen the same day. Even when I have said it wasn't urgent. However, my wife can never get an appointment within a week. She has suggested that I ring on her behalf!

[Winston72]

 

You have no idea of the scale.

I do, its huge!!!!!

[Gordon R]

Winston72 - some people know part of the scale, but I suspect no-one has a clue as to the true scale. My own experience and knowledge is that it is a fairly massive problem in the North West and Staffordshire. There are also those who don't want to acknowledge that the problem exists.

 

The NHS relies, to a fair extent, on immigrant staff, who are mainly first class. What the NHS does not need are those who should not be legitimately using the service.

[Winston72]

Winston72 - some people know part of the scale, but I suspect no-one has a clue as to the true scale. My own experience and knowledge is that it is a fairly massive problem in the North West and Staffordshire. There are also those who don't want to acknowledge that the problem exists.

 

The NHS relies, to a fair extent, on immigrant staff, who are mainly first class. What the NHS does not need are those who should not be legitimately using the service.

that could be said of many things, its big, so why split hairs

[wandringstar]

When people say that they have paid in to the nhs, but have never used it, is a fallacy, the fact that it is there, is using it, like your buildings insurance on your house, you are using it because it is there if you need it, a lot of mentalities cant understand this.

 

You don't have to use something to benefit from it, your contributions have created it, as a security for you should you need it, what part of that is hard to follow.