Benthejockey Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Bit of a two parter here so bear with me. I Made a balls up the other day and thawed out a freezer. Fortunately it only had a few old bags of chops in it so it wasn't the end of the world. We have an 11 acre hay field that backs up to an old quarry on one side and a sett in the far corner. The hay has come off and I wanted to have a look what was about so an idea came to me. I set my camera out on a badger run 150 yds from the nearest foot path over looking some rough grass the mower missed and chucked out a few defrosted chops. Well **** the bed I was up there today looking at my photos and up pops local *****/busy body and all round interfering knob to see what the meat was. Apparently he was worried someone had been trying to poison the Badgers. With pork chops! In front of a camera trap! 10 minutes passes talking away with pillock number 1 explaining that I've got various images of him stood obliviously in front of the camera debating what the meat was. And pillock two appears. This ones a twitcher as well as a ****. He was concerned someone had been trying to poison the Ravens or red kites. Both have moved from the town to the country and are mad keen on preserving all the wild life. After probably nearly 45 minutes talking to these morons finally went on their merry way. What really ****ed me off apart from pillock one ringing the badger protection people worried about poor old billy was the fact they're walking the boundary of our field and not sticking to the footpath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 You find them everywhere bud, having nonclue and thinking they are doing the right thing by calling the different orgs etc.. Dont let them get under your skin, they are the kind of people that notice ot annlys and will keep doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Did you tell them they should not have left the footpath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just be firm with them that trespass is an offence for which next time they will be reported. They cant just wonder where they want, they must abide by the law like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 If I could afford it I'd build a massive high fence the full length of the footpath! It was so stupid like if I was trying to do something dodgy i wouldn't be trying to take videos and photos of it and I wouldn't leave a pile of very obvious meat in front of the camera which I put out from the boot of my very obvious truck with personalised number plate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Big thorny hedge all the way along the footpath and a extra high barbed wire topped gate at the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just be firm with them that trespass is an offence for which next time they will be reported. They cant just wonder where they want, they must abide by the law like everyone else. Trespass isn't an offence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 What is it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Trespass isn't an offence That all depends. the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 created some circumstances in which trespass to land can be a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 If its not an offence why do we hve footpaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Trespass is a civil wrong - a tort - like when someone drives into the back of your car - and you have to bring a civil action about it. "Trespassers will be prosecuted" is a bit misleading because you have to "prosecute" it by bringing a claim for damages or an injunction in the civil (i.e. county or high) courts. The police aren't interested because it is not a criminal matter. Now, aggravated trespass is something else and if they're trespassing to disrupt a lawful activity or to cause criminal damage that is within the criminal realms. Hope this helps. Tell them to stay off your chops & please keep off your land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 You would be better with a 'High Fence' than than trying to prove an 'Offence'. I once had dealings with the RSPB whose Agent had installed a camera, in a wood, overlooking a Gamekeepers Larsen trap. They had entered the wood as Tresspassers and installed the camera. They had been informed that the trap was set to catch Sparrowhawks. The camera had mysteriously vanished and they wanted a Prosecution, quite of whom and for what, was never established ? It ended with me telling them that the Keeper had now left the area and was 'doing weddings' with his new camera !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 We get loads of " Right to Roam " people just walking dogs where they like. One came to look at my decoys in my line of fire to see what the were??. I used to put out laminated notices " Pest Controle in Progress Please Keep to Footpaths" they still walk all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) We get loads of " Right to Roam " people just walking dogs where they like. One came to look at my decoys in my line of fire to see what the were??. I used to put out laminated notices " Pest Controle in Progress Please Keep to Footpaths" they still walk all over. Ive had people walk past me when in a highseat before. Not even seen me, then on the way back ive shouted down asking how their walk was and that the footpath is three fields away. People walk where the want, not much can be done to stop it. Edited June 23, 2017 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I find folk wandering the estate hundreds of yards off the footpath, they usually come out with the usual that they thought it was a path. One bloke last year with a pointer dog off lead seemed quite pleased with himself when I challenged him, he asked why he needed to be on a path, I said because we have game birds down his reply was that his dog had only killed one bird and that was over a week a go 😞 found him in same spot a week later (this is whilst dogging in by the way) were now a week away from game season. I told him the next time I see him off a path or with his dog off a lead I will ring the keeper who is currently highly stressed due to pending game season and not in a very good mood of late. Didn't see the bloke again. Last sat keeper and I chatting edge of field me with gun under arm, bloke appears with two dogs middle of a field no were near the footpath, unbelievable 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yes It goes on, a family in a holiday let cottage let the kids release a pen of poults, way off the path on our shoot, thought it was cruel keeping baby birds penned up just to shoot,all lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Cheeky beggers, wonder if they thought it was a good idea when mr fox got em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Trespass isn't an offence It most definitely is an offence, albeit a civil one, except in certain cases as Stevo makes reference to. Being a civil offence to main remdy is to make good, hence why if no damage is done the consequence are minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 My keeper asked a bloke for his name and address he asked why, keeper said so I can send you an invoice for the damage to the crop you just walked over, bloke refused obviously and had it on his toes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I put signs up the other day warning that there's ewes and lambs out and to keep dogs on leads. The electric fence will go up next right up to the stiles and will be on which should hopefully keep them on a straight line until the battery goes flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Had this sort of thing many times, and invariably Joe Public thinks that they can wander where they want to. They always look puzzled when I point out that they are not on the footpath, and in fact trespassing on private land. If they want to argue the point I now politely ask them where do they live, and I will come and wander all over their private front garden...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I had a camera set near my barn, mainly for security . However one morning when I checked it I had caught a most unusual sight. This lady had decided she could not wait to get home to spend a penny and presented a lovely full moon shot to the camera. The funny thing was her partner was trying to shield her modesty but failed to see the camera pointing down on her. I did think of printing it off and putting the pic on the gate saying do you know this tresspiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 If I were you I would move..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think I'll try a good sharp electric fence before I bother moving. And I know a farmer with some semi wild cattle so they might get sent up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think you may have found the townny chavs trying to steal your pork chops at a very inoppotune moment. Surely thats theft on private property, these townny clowns couldn't tell the difference between sh1 t and wet clay, let alone a badger or buzzard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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