Dellbert Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 My mate has a rat (rats) and maybe a mouse or two in his loft and they can be heard scurrying around the house at night inside the cavity walls and under the upstairs floor . So tried traps they take the bait and miss getting caught by the trap ,poison the pasta strip stuff has been taken but still got the rats ,grain poison taken but their still around , wont go near a fenn trap or a humane trap . they take chocolate spread and peanut butter and some moist dog biscuit its a semi detached 1960's house . No obvious signs of entry maybe a cheap trail cam to spot the comings and goings ? Any ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 12 bore beteen the eyes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Has he not caught anything? Never had a fail when setting the new plastic mouse traps and they do bigger ones for rats unless slugs are taking the bait which I doubt inside. Tie all the traps to something as rats will wander off with the mouse traps. You can also get those sticky mat things you can put down if he knows where there coming and going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellbert Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 12 bore beteen the eyes ? well i did offer the 22 but he wants the ceilings left and the roof unharmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 just out of interest, what poison is the friend using and where is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellbert Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 just out of interest, what poison is the friend using and where is he? http://www.stvpestcontrol.com/The-Big-Cheese-Bait-&-Kill/PD/169/102/1/default.html http://www.stvpestcontrol.com/The-Big-Cheese-Bait-&-Kill/PD/316/102/1/default.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 use sticky boards. put them against the walls and wood work where you know the pests are using, this way you are removing them rather than hoping you have killed them off with poisons and leaving sticking bodys around the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Could be squirrels , I get them on my loft space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Could be squirrels , I get them on my loft space I had a squirrel in my attic once, i thought it was a rat but when I put a live trap up there I had a look the following day and there it was ! The biggest squirrel Id seen ! It was coming in at night and taking insulation off to its nest I presume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 12 bore beteen the eyes ?Well in all seriousness I would buy a small cheap low powered .177 spring airgun .probably a junior model that does around 6 /7 fpe .and bait an area out with chocolate spread and sit quiet in a corner .use open sights not a scope as very close ranges are hard to compensate for with scope mounted high above the bore line .Use flat head pellets and hit the front end . You won't have any nasty ricochets or blast holes in much other than the rat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellbert Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 sounds like a job for an hw45 with a red dot then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 That would do .But they are tricky to shoot well . And again the red dot will make your shots hit low at close ranges your likely to encounter the rats . Opens would be better .but a hw 45 should make around 5 fpe which is more than enough energy . Hey he might even enjoy it . If he gets right into it a cheap nv set up on a rifle would be ideal . I have shot thousands of rats with a crosman 2250 ratcatcher in .22 with a cheap nv set up on it . It's was ok out to 15 yds max but for 90% of rats seen that was enough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmanwan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 This won't be a squirrel if your hearing it in the walls and your wasting your time trying to shoot rats in the loft. Go round both houses and look for anything obvious. If you can't find anything it's probably a broken drain, call in the pro's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 i know when we had mice in the loft i was convinced it was a rat by the racket it was making running around, trapped 3 and the noise went. we tend to get them every winter, which reminds me to get some traps set soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefox70 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Delbert where abouts are you? Reason i ask is that if you want a few sticky boards i have a few i could post out or if ur near enough collect. Im in doncaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleachan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Most likely mice, given the time of year. Bait, you have to keep putting it our until they stop taking it. Around 5 to 10 days, as some won't find it as quickly as others.... Traps, there's a bit of a knack setting them to be sensitive. Melt chocolate and paint it on to the trigger plate bait holder. That way they have to work harder to get it thus triggering stiffer less sensitive traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellbert Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 i know when we had mice in the loft i was convinced it was a rat by the racket it was making running around, trapped 3 and the noise went. we tend to get them every winter, which reminds me to get some traps set soon. judging by the droppings its Rats Delbert where abouts are you? Reason i ask is that if you want a few sticky boards i have a few i could post out or if ur near enough collect. Im in doncaster Southend Essex do sticky boards work with rats ? Any thoughts on a cheap trail cam type thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefox70 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Delbert judging by the droppings could be rat or squirrel they are to the untrained eye very simlar. Yes the sticky boards do catch rats but need to be checked at least twice daily, if you want a few i can send you them out f.o.c you just pay for the carriage pm me if want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Ahhh rat fans,Roland here ! it's not me !.Set any traps for me and Kevin and I will be on the blower to Cwis Peckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 A friend has had great success with one of these http://collinsnets.co.uk/product/goodnature-a24-rat-trap-kit-uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 i know when we had mice in the loft i was convinced it was a rat by the racket it was making running around, trapped 3 and the noise went. we tend to get them every winter, which reminds me to get some traps set soon. This is pretty much what I had last year as well - I must also get the traps out as I think I have heard them for the first time this year ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 What's the recommended humane dispatch of rats/mice on a sticky trap? LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) What's the recommended humane dispatch of rats/mice on a sticky trap? LS file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/INetCache/IE/9U5QMRUF/COP_Glue_Boards.pdf Sorry that link dosent work properly, basically it says to place captured creature complete with board into a bag and deploy a swift blow to the head. certainly not drowning. Edited October 8, 2017 by aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmanwan Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The recommended dispatch on a sticky board Is a blow to the head. Sticky boards in lofts are not ideal for rats. They get one or two legs on them and it's to easy to drag them about gathering loft lagging on the glue, then they can usually pull themselves off the pad. The amount of times I've seen this in peoples lofts is to many to count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 The recommended dispatch on a sticky board Is a blow to the head. Sticky boards in lofts are not ideal for rats. They get one or two legs on them and it's to easy to drag them about gathering loft lagging on the glue, then they can usually pull themselves off the pad. The amount of times I've seen this in peoples lofts is to many to count. Could you fasten the sticky board down, possibly screw it loosley to some loft woodwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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