quentyn Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 just watching country file - apparently linconshire police are now taking the stance that they require a medical report for grants and renewals no medical report no FAC / SGC - no news on if GP's are standardised in their pricing or if they can charge what they want / refuse on moral grounds Anyone here affected ? is BASC involved ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Watch BASC jump all over this .......not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just been watching this program and its about firearms licensing and shotgun certificates ,has any PW members had to pay their doctor to verify you are safe to have a licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, stevo said: Watch BASC jump all over this .......not Countryside alliance were on country file, saying their stance is, dont pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Engineer Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Caught the last 10 mins of the story. It seems the police force are freely ignoring the home office guidance and making up the rules as they fancy. I noticed a chap from the CA was on for comment but didn't see anyone from BASC, weren't BASC taking this further last year?? Edited January 7, 2018 by The_Engineer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, ShootingEgg said: Countryside alliance were on country file, saying their stance is, dont pay. Here in scotland if you dont pay, the doctors wont even fill in the form , money up front before they fill in the form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 They charged but I didn't pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yes had to pay , up front or the doctor would not fill in form ,thats here in scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 they sent me a letter but did not pay it,still got my renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Here in scotland if you dont pay, the doctors wont even fill in the form , money up front before they fill in the form. And no form means no renewal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, ShootingEgg said: And no form means no renewal? Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hod Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, ShootingEgg said: And no form means no renewal? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Apparently in Lincolnshire if you don’t get a letter from your doc then you won’t get a licence or renewal, Thats from their head of firearms department who strangely is a detective, not uniformed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, johnphilip said: Correct Its a nightmare, the two sides singing from totally different genre's of music let alone the sheet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco89 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 My 2 cents worth is that medical reports from gp is not written into firearms order, its a local rule. A local rule wouldn't not stand up in court. Additionaly my understanding is that the police contact the gp re your application and if there is any concerns its for the gp to raise with the police. No need for a report. If you don't pay and the go doesn't reply the application should proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Knew it was a biased broadcasting company report when I saw who was doing it - turned off before I threw something at the tele! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Countryside alliance were on country file, saying their stance is, dont pay. But BASC And CA DONT give me my ticket do they ! Edited January 7, 2018 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Dipstick interviewed bleated it's not fair, I paid the doctor demand, so everyone should....very helpful! When the home office guidance and with the agreement of the GP's representatives...........was for no charge for initial police enquiry! Then the guy from the CA agreed on gunowners behalf to the effect that "we don't mind paying a reasonable fee, but it should be the same everywhere"........talk about surrender before the battle has started! The copper they interviewed seems to think Lincolnshire police can ignore home office guidance and force gunowners to pay GP's a fee they are not entitled to! With the threat that if they don't pay and get a GP's report....gunowners will not be granted a certificate and will not have their certificates renewed!....... This needs sorting and bloody quickly!............if neccesary via a judicial review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quentyn Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Countryside alliance were on country file, saying their stance is, dont pay. hopefully they will find someone's court appeal and then there will be a proper rulling at the moment no one benefits from the current position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, shaun4860 said: Apparently in Lincolnshire if you don’t get a letter from your doc then you won’t get a licence or renewal, Thats from their head of firearms department who strangely is a detective, not uniformed That's not what the policy states and Lincolnshire head of firearms cannot make up the law hopefully one of the shooting organisations will challenge that in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Engineer Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, J D Hunter said: old news.. Read Here: https://basc.org.uk/blog/press-releases/latest-news/basc-says-dont-pay-medical-fee/ It leaves people looking to renew in a very difficult position though if the police now take the stance that with no report they won't issue a new licence. An update from BASC would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) All the advice is don't pay.they say it is not the home office just local forces going it alone and not in line with government rules.so who is going to take this to the courts.basc.cpsa.c.a.i doubt it.and don't forget if you follow the organisations advice and no doctors report is forthcoming you will have to find a temporary home for your guns.it will make no difference to the forces involved.it needs sorting now before it gets totally out of hand.by all means make a report part of the process.and the applicant pay for same.but standardise the cost and make it so the doctor has to provide.regardless of their personal feelings on guns.the firearms rules of this country are falling into chaos and that is no way for guns to be regulated. Edited January 7, 2018 by bostonmick Predictive text error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Typical poor questions from BBC, why did he not ask the copper 1. You therefore know better tha the home office 2. You are say that if a report is needed at every renewal, the reporting system does not work. 3. You are using blackmail to presure legal gun owner to pay unlimited bills to Gps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, bostonmick said: All the advice is don't pay.they say it is not the home office just local forces going it alone and not in line with government rules.so who is going to take this to the courts.basc.cpsa.c.a.i doubt it.and don't forget if you follow the organisations advice and no doctors report is forthcoming you will have to find a temporary home for your guns.it will make no difference to the forces involved.it needs sorting now before it gets totally out of hand.by all means make a report part of the process.and the applicant pay for same.but standardise the cost and make it so the doctor has to provide.regardless of their personal feelings on guns.the firearms rules of this country are falling into chaos and that is no way for guns to be regulated. But you cant make/force a doctor to give a medical report to say an applicant is fit to possess firearms.If the police want to go down this route then maybe they should have an independed medical board that works soley with the licencing department. Put the licence fees up to compensate the additional work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Why do people keep looking to BASC ? ? There NOT gonna do anything just the same as the other orgs . WHY ... cos they can’t . Blimey BASC are claiming an all out victory for getting the old wording changed on the SGC . Big deal is that really or should I say really worth all the time and effort for something that in real terms means actually nothing , there nothing more than a poxy insurance company along with all the rest. Just have a look for yourself s and see just how many victories they have fought and won on our behalf since the so-called handgun ban . Look at all the problems we as hunters and competitive shooters are facing at the moment , from just about evey conceivable Angle , we are getting beaten and batterd . Then go have a look at the BASC website , NOTHING ..... just another day in paradise. As long as the membership numbers go up who cares , what a Bunch of ........... rymes with tankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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