Rewulf Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 An MP in Corbyns 'inner circle' has a son who was convicted of intent to supply class A drugs, has avoided a jail sentence. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6322057/Son-Jeremy-Corbyns-close-ally-avoids-jail-smuggling-2-500-drugs-festival.html His mother – the 50-year-old MP for Edmonton, North London – is a member of Mr Corbyn's inner circle and a vocal social inequality campaigner who has spoken out about 'racist policing' and the Government's 'failed war on drugs'. The son , Ishmael Osamor is a serving labour councillor, and works in parliament for his mother, will keep both those jobs, but resigned his post as deputy cabinet member of Haringey council. The race or colour of Mr Osamor is not relevant, but surely he cannot continue in his role as councillor ? Does Miss Osamor also not feel the need to make some kind of public apology or at least a demonstration of such. What do you think the average bloke on the street would have got if he had been convicted of the same offences ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Certainly more trouble than this Pillock did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Disgraceful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 It seems you can get away with most things if you have the wealth, power and/or connections with which to defend/protect yourself....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Anyone can appeal the sentence. Not sure if this classes as a serious drug offence but might be worth a go. https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review To save looking for the details Ishmael Osamor Bournemouth Crown Court 19th October 3 offences of intent to supply 1 offence of possession It's all we law abiding can do. But the fact the he admitted 3 offences of intent to supply would surely mean it was not a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 He got treated very leniently. Perhaps his mother could speak up now about why we are losing the war on drugs. Pathetic sentencing could be a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Rewulf said: An MP in Corbyns 'inner circle' has a son who was convicted of intent to supply class A drugs, has avoided a jail sentence. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6322057/Son-Jeremy-Corbyns-close-ally-avoids-jail-smuggling-2-500-drugs-festival.html His mother – the 50-year-old MP for Edmonton, North London – is a member of Mr Corbyn's inner circle and a vocal social inequality campaigner who has spoken out about 'racist policing' and the Government's 'failed war on drugs'. The son , Ishmael Osamor is a serving labour councillor, and works in parliament for his mother, will keep both those jobs, but resigned his post as deputy cabinet member of Haringey council. The race or colour of Mr Osamor is not relevant, but surely he cannot continue in his role as councillor ? Does Miss Osamor also not feel the need to make some kind of public apology or at least a demonstration of such. What do you think the average bloke on the street would have got if he had been convicted of the same offences ? He should not be allowed to work in Parliament! You are quite right, this is a jailable offence.....so has his mother pulled strings for him? Remember, the former head of the Crown Prosecution Service, Keir Starmer, is now a front bench Labour MP, and Emily Thornberry, a Barrister, is also on that Front Bench....................makes you think, doesn,t it? 1 hour ago, arm3000gt said: Anyone can appeal the sentence. Not sure if this classes as a serious drug offence but might be worth a go. https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review To save looking for the details Ishmael Osamor Bournemouth Crown Court 19th October 3 offences of intent to supply 1 offence of possession It's all we law abiding can do. But the fact the he admitted 3 offences of intent to supply would surely mean it was not a mistake. I think I,ll have a go at appealing this lenient sentence. Who is with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Ishmael Osamor, son of Shadow International Development Secretary Kate Osamor, has received a community service sentence after being found in possession of some £2,000 worth of Class A drugs. Ishmael works as a press officer in his mother’s parliamentary office and also became a Labour Councillor in Haringey last year following the controversial deselection of two sitting Labour Councillors. Although Osamor has not declared this in the Register of Members’ Interests – which is a breach of the rules by her. Councillor Ishmael was caught with 30 grammes of ecstasy, 7.5 grammes of cocaine, 5.7 grammes of ketamine and a bit of cannabis with a total street value of between £1,690 and £2,500. Because prosecutors accepted his claim that this haul of drugs was for “personal use” the judge did not jail him. If he had been taking the drugs to last year’s Bestival event in Dorset for profit he would have got for 4 years jail time. Guido doffs his cap to Ishmael who must have an incredible constitution that would put Keith Richards in his prime to shame. That much ketamine would knock out an elephant, 30 grammes of ecstasy would put a rugby team into rapture for a week and 7 grammes of cocaine is quite some pace for a weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Odd that Prosecutors accepted the drugs were for personal use, but he pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Yes, it stinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/outcome-of-unduly-lenient-sentence-referrals This link allows you to track the progress of any referrals. Only look for the one you want, it makes grim reading. I have requested the sentence be reviewed. Looking at the list though not many are actioned upon. Despite the limited information I have, it definitely seems fishy. Community order does fall into the sentencing guidelines for Class A. Surely that is for some guy getting stopped with a few wraps in the street. Not some bloke with half a dozen different substances, in reasonable quantities trying to get into a festival. Either way we shouldn't have convicted drug dealers as councillors or parliamentary aids, no matter who they are related to or party affiliation. Anyway I could rant away but we will see what happens in 28 ish days time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Odd that Prosecutors accepted the drugs were for personal use, but he pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply. 😃 Wheels within wheels.... friends of friends ..... school of funny handshakes. 👍 I have personal experience of this and could relate quite a few examples of such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Scully said: 😃 Wheels within wheels.... friends of friends ..... school of funny handshakes. 👍 I have personal experience of this and could relate quite a few examples of such. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Should not come as a surprise to anyone. There is more corruption within our governments and legal profession than anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) As someone on the political ladder, he is what George Orwell (in the book 1984) called a member of the 'Inner Party'. Edited October 27, 2018 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, bostonmick said: There is more corruption within our governments And the further left the greater the corruption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Happened with Jack Straw’s son too ~ while he was Home Secretary. Labour are all hypocrites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) This sort of thing is not new and is not limited to any particular political party. Fiona Onasanya MP, one of our two Peterborough MPs is in court on the 12th of November for allegedly perverting the course of justice.https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/peterborough-labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-to-stand-trial-for-perverting-the-course-of-justice-alongside-her-brother-1-8599377 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-45170272 Surely there should be a mechanism in place that any one involved in public service should be spotless and if not they should lose their job. Edited October 28, 2018 by TIGHTCHOKE Addition of link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 14 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: As someone on the political ladder, he is what George Orwell (in the book 1984) called a member of the 'Inner Party'. All men are equal. But some are more equal than others also springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 21 hours ago, panoma1 said: It seems you can get away with most things if you have the wealth, power and/or connections with which to defend/protect yourself....... It's all about who you know, nothing else is relevant? 17 hours ago, Gordon R said: Odd that Prosecutors accepted the drugs were for personal use, but he pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply. They need replacing, how can that quantity be for personal use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 16 hours ago, bostonmick said: Should not come as a surprise to anyone. There is more corruption within our governments and legal profession than anywhere. Agreed, it would be implausible to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 And........ working for his mother who is a public servant WE are paying for his habit or, perhaps, funding his drug dealing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 5 hours ago, norfolk dumpling said: And........ working for his mother who is a public servant WE are paying for his habit or, perhaps, funding his drug dealing! It's worst than that in my view. It's opening up both him and his mother to outside pressures. What happens if the people he buys from start pressuring him to do x, y and z? This is the slippery slope, where the inside 'man' in organisations occurs. Once you start telling lies or doing shady deals, it's difficult to stop for fear of exposure. Press officer for Shadow International Development Secretary. Sure he has potential access to some sensitive information. Foreign agencies would clearly not be interested getting access to someone in the shadow cabinet of the UK government would they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 7 hours ago, old man said: It's all about who you know, nothing else is relevant? They need replacing, how can that quantity be for personal use? Perhaps he buys in bulk to get a good price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 23 hours ago, norfolk dumpling said: And........ working for his mother who is a public servant WE are paying for his habit or, perhaps, funding his drug dealing! Two ways you can look at this. Either they were for his own personal use (which flys in the face of his intent to supply admission) and he regularly partakes of a cocktail of hard drugs. Or they were to sell on when he got inside the festival, which makes him a straight forward drug dealer. Both of which , in my opinion make him incompatible with his public service work, and parliamentary job. His mother ,an advocate of equality and a critic of the police, and their drug policy, obviously condones the behaviour by not sacking him for gross misconduct, plus leaves her open to hypocrite accusations and possible security issues, knowing full well her son, and his friends are in contact, maybe indirectly, with hardened criminals. Her position is without doubt, questionable. Also, where is the media attention ? If this were a senior tory MP s son , it wouldnt surprise me if it were plastered all over the 10 oclock news ! Double standards all around methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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