misser Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 just a quick question for the pw massive....watched a large 'sitty tree' on a pigeon flightline on a windy day last week...was going to have a session under it and thought about the forthcoming shots...would folk take the more sporting shots further out from the tree, take them when there about to put their undercarriage down and finally the ultimate if one managed to land on the top branches would it be acceptable to do it stationary...just let me put the customary tin hat on to deflect the incoming... 😃😃...atb...misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 As my sole purpose for shooting pigeons is for crop protection, I shoot all that present themselves be that flying or sitting. If I just shot birds that presented as truly sporting challenges I'd soon get my marching orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, CharlieT said: As my sole purpose for shooting pigeons is for crop protection, I shoot all that present themselves be that flying or sitting. If I just shot birds that presented as truly sporting challenges I'd soon get my marching orders. This^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 If im out and about just having a walk and enjoying myself, id probably be more inclined to give it a chance. But if ive been asked, its dead the easiest way possible, and if that means 28gs up its *** when its sat down, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I have no remorse in putting a shot towards them if they are foolish enough to sit up the tree ( they might be the only shots I get ☺️ ) , a lot of the times I will decoy right or left from a tree depending on the wind direction and take crossing shots , or decoy well out from the tree if I am under it and take head on shots , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Back in the 50s as a teenager I was given a set number of cartridges and a 12 gauge and expected to bring the same number of pigeons back. Full covered hide 30yrds from known sitty tree, small 12 inch hole in roof and one carved wooden decoy in field. Today most if not all pigeon shooting is crop protection so shoot every one which presents itself in range. Back in the 50s it put meat on the table even on a farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, CharlieT said: As my sole purpose for shooting pigeons is for crop protection, I shoot all that present themselves be that flying or sitting. This! The farmer who kindly allows me to shoot his land would expect nothing less.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, CharlieT said: As my sole purpose for shooting pigeons is for crop protection, I shoot all that present themselves be that flying or sitting. If I just shot birds that presented as truly sporting challenges I'd soon get my marching orders. This. If we gave anything regarded as a pest a 'sporting chance' on any land we shoot on the owner would soon find someone else to shoot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 thanks gents for all the replies...… it appears the consensus of opinion is that pigeons in the bag is the object of the exercise.......makes me feel a tad better then if I pop one off sat in the tree..😄😄...atb.misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 How about you have an airgun with you for those sub 20 yds pigeons .so you dont blow them to bits. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, misser said: thanks gents for all the replies...… it appears the consensus of opinion is that pigeons in the bag is the object of the exercise.......makes me feel a tad better then if I pop one off sat in the tree..😄😄...atb.misser There are times when you have got more chance killing a pigeon coming towards a tree than to wait until it has landed , when the trees are in leaf its sometimes a job to see them and if you can there is normally a branch to shield it , so if it's in range and present a shot then give it one rather than wait for it to land and you then can't see it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I'd shoot them in sitty trees all day long. As for the closer birds it's possible to catch them on the edge of the pattern if you really know your cartridge / choke / gun combination. Beats shooting them to bits ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Or use a .410 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 My main reason for shooting is crop protection and the number I shoot gives me access to lots of farms. I find the bigger target is just prior to landing in the tree but have no concern to shoot sitters. Close birds in decoys I tend to shoot down the side and take out a wing to stop spoiling the meat for resale. It's like a runner in the hedge with no dog you can stalk and shoot to the side on the edge of the pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) hoist a couple of lofters up the tree as well............ive had some nice steady days next to sitty trees....... Edited February 19, 2019 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: ..........ive had some nice steady days next to sitty trees....... You just have to bring far Sarah into the conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: You just have to bring far Sarah into the conversation i said "next to sitty trees"......................NOT "up against sitty tree"..........pay attention now.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Well with fat Sarah you would be next to, she would be against surely...might even be a cherry tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside1000 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 I find if you move as they approach the tree they will invariably see you and bolt, if you wait until they have perched the same applies as they are very alert and wary of any ground movement, their weak point if they have one is just as they drop their undercarriage , they switch from long sight or binocular vision to close range to identify a suitable branch, for this brief 3 or 4 seconds they cannot focus on surrounding ground space , I wait for this moment to raise the gun to mount, at this point you can choose to fire at the still moving target, or pause for a second or two until they grab the perch so a stationary target, then fire, either way the bird is not aware of you and will present a much more steady target with much less chance of a miss, My favourite tree is a young oak, about 40 feet high and the same across, from Christmas till late march it is completely naked with loads of good spots to stick up my 3 lofters as high as I can get them, my hide is in some willows 30 yards from the centre of the tree, so all targets fall between roughly 20 and 40 yards, I use my Hushpower moderator on my 12 gauge Beretta with some hard hitting 28gm 6's and rarely see one escape. I have used the Air Arms 400S .177 on occasion but much prefer the killing power of the Beretta, especially as I do like to take a pop at higher birds as they pass over but whichever way you take it its a great way to bag a few birds without a lot of gear, 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Walker570 said: Well with fat Sarah you would be next to, she would be against surely...might even be a cherry tree too much information there............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Well, I am not going to explain as you have obviously had a very sheltered upbringing. Pour a glass and sit down....... I just have....Morrisons own blend Glen Stag with a little water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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