1066 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 It looks like the BBC may have shot themselves in the foot by giving Mr. Packham a platform to spout off. This person failed to mention he was a paid advisor to a plastics firm when praising the company on "The one show". The ensuing legal pay-outs could cost the BBC (you and me) many millions. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-7267577/The-BBCs-legal-battle-plastic-bags-firm-linked-Springwatch-presenter-Chris-Packham.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 "Oh what a tangled web we weave" eh? Together with his massive carbon footprint on his mega bucks accompanied by paying guests, globe trotting, wildlife photo safaris, it looks more and more like a question of "do what I say, not do as I do" Anyone detect an odour of hypocrisy here?.......but I suppose if there's enough money in it, some will bend their conservation/ecological/antipollution credentials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Together with his massive carbon footprint on his mega bucks accompanied by paying guests, globe trotting, wildlife photo safaris, it looks more and more like a question of "do what I say, not do as I do" 👍 All of which he keeps well under the radar, hypocritical creature that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, 1066 said: It looks like the BBC may have shot themselves in the foot by giving Mr. Packham a platform to spout off. This person failed to mention he was a paid advisor to a plastics firm when praising the company on "The one show". The ensuing legal pay-outs could cost the BBC (you and me) many millions. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-7267577/The-BBCs-legal-battle-plastic-bags-firm-linked-Springwatch-presenter-Chris-Packham.html That is another case we won't see reported on the BBC news then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Oh dear Wonder if he’ll crowd fund for the legal fees on this 🤭 maybe it was the shareholders who lost millions that were making the death threats and hanging dead birds on his fence and not irate sportsmen just a thought of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 What a joker that bloke is. Soon some head poncho at the Beeb will realise what a shallow minded cluster bomb they have on their consultancy payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 slimey little weasel............sooner or later he will get his comuppance............. trouble is the young generation is so blinded by the fake news and trump effect syndrome....the will continue to support him come what may...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Oh, thats why i have just got a letter telling me i am not getting my free TV license next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, la bala said: Oh, thats why i have just got a letter telling me i am not getting my free TV license next year. my god so you are 135 years old now............what benifits.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Looks like he's going to die by his own sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Whitebridges said: What a joker that bloke is. Soon some head poncho at the Beeb will realise what a shallow minded cluster bomb they have on their consultancy payroll. Simply put, being the BBC they really don't care. Any enforced payout would be made by the licence payers? A nice, nearly captive audience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, ditchman said: my god so you are 135 years old now............what benifits.... Well I got one year out of them, just my luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, la bala said: Well I got one year out of them, just my luck. Me too, scraped in with a couple of weeks to spare. However, the "but" might be a general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, wymberley said: Me too, scraped in with a couple of weeks to spare. However, the "but" might be a general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) People who are concerned about issues like environmental issues tend to fall into two types; The vast majority (which includes me and I suspect most if not all here) take a pragmatic view and voluntarily try and do our bit usually by trying to use a bit less energy/fuel, plastic, perhaps plant a few trees if we can, buy local products, have a more friendly car at the next change. All minor in themselves, but if we all do it - it does help. The few like Packham & Co - who remain completely blinkered to what they do/use/cause on a personal basis ........ but want to force rules and restrictions onto others. They do not see themselves as part of the problem ........... they are forcing others to solve it and doing their bit that way. Edited July 22, 2019 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: People who are concerned about issues like environmental issues tend to fall into two types; The vast majority (which includes me and I suspect most if not all here) take a pragmatic view and voluntarily try and do our bit usually by trying to use a bit less energy/fuel, plastic, perhaps plant a few trees if we can, buy local products, have a more friendly car at the next change. All minor in themselves, but if we all do it - it does help. The few like Packham & Co - who remain completely blinkered to what they do/use/cause on a personal basis ........ but want to force rules and restrictions onto others. They do not see themselves as part of the problem ........... they are forcing others to solve it and doing their bit that way. Wonder what car pecker uses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Probably one with flat tyres every time he comes back to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Wonder what car pecker uses... I have a vague recollection I have seen him on TV driving a Discovery - but not 100% sure - and it may have been a BBC vehicle anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I have a vague recollection I have seen him on TV driving a Discovery - but not 100% sure - and it may have been a BBC vehicle anyway. According to the BBC he doesn't work for them directly, but contracts to them (probably through his own "agency") so I doubt he gets the use of a BBC vehicle?.....but then again? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, panoma1 said: According to the BBC he doesn't work for them directly, but contracts to them (probably through his own "agency") so I doubt he gets the use of a BBC vehicle?.....but then again? 😉 It was some time ago and he may have been working for the BBC then, or perhaps he uses a BBC vehicle when 'on set", or (very possibly) I have got it wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: It was some time ago and he may have been working for the BBC then, or perhaps he uses a BBC vehicle when 'on set", or (very possibly) I have got it wrong! As I recall, when complaints to the BBC were lodged, of him using the platform given to him by the BBC to spout his anti farming, anti fieldsports bias....the BBC responded that he didn't work directly for the BBC, but was a contractor........so it was nothing to do with them! As I understand it, when vehicles are provided by an employer they are insured for employees use only, not for contractors?.......Hence my original comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: he didn't work directly for the BBC, but was a contractor This is often done as a tax dodge - it enables him to operate a company that 'bills' the BBC -and pays tax based the various different tax rules for companies rather than individuals. I don't know the full details, but many in broadcasting have used this dodge - which is highly questionable if you only work for one contracting 'employer'. 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: when vehicles are provided by an employer they are insured for employees use only, not for contractors? That was not the case when I was working (I have done both contracting and employed work) - and many employers who use contractors have an insurance policy that covers people operating under contract to them. It would depend on how the policy is set up. Note that an organisation the size of the BBC may even get underwriters to do a whole custom 'BBC package' to cover their specific needs. One of my former employers used to do a similar thing because we had very specialised vehicles with high value installed equipment, and each specialist vehicle was insured against a build sheet with an 'agreed value'. My guess is that he would have his own 'private car' of some sort, but use a hire car, or 'provided' car when filming - and with wildlife filming, probably a 4 x 4. I know that 'Time Team' used to get a deal from LandRover to use a fleet of their vehicles ......... no doubt at a very good price as they got lots of TV coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: This is often done as a tax dodge - it enables him to operate a company that 'bills' the BBC -and pays tax based the various different tax rules for companies rather than individuals. I don't know the full details, but many in broadcasting have used this dodge - which is highly questionable if you only work for one contracting 'employer'. That was not the case when I was working (I have done both contracting and employed work) - and many employers who use contractors have an insurance policy that covers people operating under contract to them. It would depend on how the policy is set up. Note that an organisation the size of the BBC may even get underwriters to do a whole custom 'BBC package' to cover their specific needs. One of my former employers used to do a similar thing because we had very specialised vehicles with high value installed equipment, and each specialist vehicle was insured against a build sheet with an 'agreed value'. My guess is that he would have his own 'private car' of some sort, but use a hire car, or 'provided' car when filming - and with wildlife filming, probably a 4 x 4. I know that 'Time Team' used to get a deal from LandRover to use a fleet of their vehicles ......... no doubt at a very good price as they got lots of TV coverage. Yes, I may be wrong in some cases, but the organisations/employers I worked for only insured the vehicles for employee to use!.....and I did start my posting with the disclaimer.......... "as I understand it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well - I have Googled (which is what I should have done in the first place!) and in 2015 he apparently drove a Skoda Greenline 1.2 Diesel. He also is apparently recently swapping one of his cars for an electric. He apparently has also had a Volvo XC90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Well - I have Googled (which is what I should have done in the first place!) and in 2015 he apparently drove a Skoda Greenline 1.2 Diesel. He also is apparently recently swapping one of his cars for an electric. He apparently has also had a Volvo XC90. Oh well - was just thinking about his carbon footprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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