keeper96 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Evening all, ive been to look at one of the above guns and I’m tempted to buy it, I can’t find any obvious issues, the barrels ring, wood to metal fit is good, no chewed screws etc. Clean bores and a reasonable fit, but would benefit from a small extension. it’s a Boxlock non ejector and I can get it for £370 does this sound reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Have the bores measured and proof checked. Its not worth £37 if the barrels are out no matter how clean they look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, keeper96 said: Evening all, ive been to look at one of the above guns and I’m tempted to buy it, I can’t find any obvious issues, the barrels ring, wood to metal fit is good, no chewed screws etc. Clean bores and a reasonable fit, but would benefit from a small extension. it’s a Boxlock non ejector and I can get it for £370 does this sound reasonable? Boxlock non ejector today are at rock bottom prices on English made guns they can be bought for around the £100 only the top makers hold their price Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Feltwad said: Boxlock non ejector today are at rock bottom prices on English made guns they can be bought for around the £100 only the top makers hold their price Feltwad People need to let me know where these unicorns are! move been looking for about 2 months and there’s nothing of any note for that sort of money in my area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Agree with what has been said and watch barrel wall thickness in case a lot of metal has been lapped/polished out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, keeper96 said: People need to let me know where these unicorns are! move been looking for about 2 months and there’s nothing of any note for that sort of money in my area Try Wabbitbosher on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Penelope said: Try Wabbitbosher on here. He is good it has to be said and if you want it easy not do any hunting around or research to locate a gun, he is the answer. , but on the finding them yourself front. Look on auctions. Look online or ring around asking the various auctioneers. they are there. Some gunshops have older guns in the back they might sell, but this these days is increasingly rare. Guntrader gundeals etc plenty listed but ask a premium on there still some bargains. but auctions look them out thats where you can turn up a good buy, especialy if its unloved non ejector or less than predestine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Would agree with above.Sadly s/side N/Ej guns are almost in the` free to good home` category now unless they are exceptional in some respect or other. I`ve seen plenty around for next to no £££ in the last year,some really good guns amongst them too. Can certainly recommend Wabbitbosher as an excellent member to deal with too! Edited November 27, 2019 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, keeper96 said: People need to let me know where these unicorns are! move been looking for about 2 months and there’s nothing of any note for that sort of money in my area If you live any ware near the North-East what out for the local auctions to pick up a good sxs box lock Ryedale auctions is a good bet .I have seen racks of them in local gun shops Feltwad Edited November 27, 2019 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Feltwad said: If you live any ware near the North-East what out for the local auctions to pick up a good sxs box lock Ryedale auctions is a good bet .I have seen racks of them in local gun shops Feltwad Thanks for the tip, I’ll have a look now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Last time i was at rydale there were 70 - 80 lots, every single gun nearly had a handful of faults which were not reflected in the bidding. I would not recommend buying a gun at auction if you don't have the knowledge to properly appraise them - Next sale is the 8th December - which i don't think i can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 hours ago, demonwolf444 said: Last time i was at rydale there were 70 - 80 lots, every single gun nearly had a handful of faults which were not reflected in the bidding. I would not recommend buying a gun at auction if you don't have the knowledge to properly appraise them - Next sale is the 8th December - which i don't think i can make. That’s why I’m wary of auctions as the majority are to far away to travel to with the risk of coming back empty handed, and I will not buy sight unseen. ryedake is only a 90 min drive so I think ill have a drive down and I know enough to pick up most faults so feel fairly safe about it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'd take with you a wall thickness gauge and a shotgun bore micrometer. I wouldn't trust whoever catalogued the last load, unfortunately im away this weekend or i could meet you there with tools and run through the catalogue though last time it was largely a wasted effort. - Last time nearly every gun had sprung ribs, damaged barrels, bulges, or were out of proof, plenty of guns were listed as 16 bores or 20 bores and turned out to be other sizes completely. There appear to be some okay looking boxlock ejectors in this time around - everything else i would steer clear of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, demonwolf444 said: I'd take with you a wall thickness gauge and a shotgun bore micrometer. I wouldn't trust whoever catalogued the last load, unfortunately im away this weekend or i could meet you there with tools and run through the catalogue though last time it was largely a wasted effort. - Last time nearly every gun had sprung ribs, damaged barrels, bulges, or were out of proof, plenty of guns were listed as 16 bores or 20 bores and turned out to be other sizes completely. There appear to be some okay looking boxlock ejectors in this time around - everything else i would steer clear of. After looking at the catalogue there’s nothing there that really takes my fancy anyway but thanks for the offer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 hours ago, demonwolf444 said: I'd take with you a wall thickness gauge and a shotgun bore micrometer. I wouldn't trust whoever catalogued the last load, unfortunately im away this weekend or i could meet you there with tools and run through the catalogue though last time it was largely a wasted effort. - Last time nearly every gun had sprung ribs, damaged barrels, bulges, or were out of proof, plenty of guns were listed as 16 bores or 20 bores and turned out to be other sizes completely. There appear to be some okay looking boxlock ejectors in this time around - everything else i would steer clear of. Just had a quick look,plainly visible sleeved barrels, yet no mention of this in description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Well in the end I’ve picked up a nice army and navy Boxlock non ejector from halls, paid £140 all in and I’m very pleased! It’s a tad short but I’ve a nice block of ebony looking for a good home in the garage! pics to follow once I’m home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, keeper96 said: Well in the end I’ve picked up a nice army and navy Boxlock non ejector from halls, paid £140 all in and I’m very pleased! It’s a tad short but I’ve a nice block of ebony looking for a good home in the garage! pics to follow once I’m home hello, sounds good keeper 96, i am sure you can find more info on this with the serial numbers, good luck Edited December 11, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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figgy Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks nice, enjoy your shooting with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 16 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, sounds good keeper 96, i am sure you can find more info on this with the serial numbers, good luck Army & Navy records held by the University of Glasgow, so Keeper 96 should be able to source details of his gun there. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Old Boggy said: Army & Navy records held by the University of Glasgow, so Keeper 96 should be able to source details of his gun there. OB hello, my Army and Navy boxlock ejector on the same style as a Churchill XXV was made for an Army officer, another one i should have kept me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Army and Navy Fourten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Very nice to see a English small bore thanks for posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Very nice to see a English small bore thanks for posting And it works! Shot 78 crows with it one morning 4 years ago. 14 gram No.9’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Old Boggy said: Army & Navy records held by the University of Glasgow, so Keeper 96 should be able to source details of his gun there. OB You are correct it cost £40 for them to research your gun you will find out , who made it mine is a Midland, who it was sold to when it was sold and the purchase price. Enjoy here’s mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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