How deadly?

[RockySpears]

Just a word on the actual statistics (from the WHO and John Hopkins)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/decimal-point-blew-world

Now, about all those destroyed lives, minds, businesses and livelihoods?

 

Or even: "Bock told CBS4 that because the victims had tested positive for COVID-19 within 30 days of having been shot by gunfire, the county classified them as “deaths among cases.”

That’s a curious definition, but one required by the national reporting rules created by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

 

RS

Edited December 18, 2020 by RockySpears
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[Walker570]

Widespread disinformation on the real corvid death rate.

[JohnfromUK]

Apparently about 3 x more deadly than flu  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9067507/Covid-19-THREE-times-deadly-flu-hospitalised-patients.html

[Smokersmith]

To those it kills, it's 100% deadly.

[bluesj]

6 hours ago, RockySpears said:

Just a word on the actual statistics (from the WHO and John Hopkins)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/decimal-point-blew-world

Now, about all those destroyed lives, minds, businesses and livelihoods?

 

Or even: "Bock told CBS4 that because the victims had tested positive for COVID-19 within 30 days of having been shot by gunfire, the county classified them as “deaths among cases.”

That’s a curious definition, but one required by the national reporting rules created by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

 

RS

UK numbers are calculated in the same way. it was open ended in that if you tested positive and then died at any time afterwards you counted as a covid death now its if you die within 30 days of a test i think.

[team tractor]

I heard of another 2 dying today . 42 & 50 years old. Both healthy before this . 

[gamekeeper1960]

My Daughter works in a care home where she is looking after four with the virus, people all in their eighties and they seem to be coping really well...

[Smokersmith]

Met one of our team today who got it 6 weeks ago. Young mother. She can hardly do anything ... proper long Covid symptoms. 
It’s unpredictable and very nasty for some. 

[AVB]

I have doubled the number of people I know who have had covid. Met a couple who I know while walking the dog. They said they hardly knew they had it. Slight headache was the only symptom. 

[oowee]

My daughter just finished a week on nights on pediatric emergency at Uni Hospital Coventry. She said the dept is much quieter than average for this time of year. The social distancing and hand washing looks to be significantly reducing the number of children they would expect through the door with seasonal respiratory problems. 

She and her partner only knew they had it when they were tested for anti bodies.

[Mice!]

3 hours ago, oowee said:

My daughter just finished a week on nights on pediatric emergency at Uni Hospital Coventry. She said the dept is much quieter than average for this time of year. The social distancing and hand washing looks to be significantly reducing the number of children they would expect through the door with seasonal respiratory problems. 

She and her partner only knew they had it when they were tested for anti bodies.

That's probably the first good side effect to this.

[team tractor]

Just had a friend come in to work who just lost a mate at 53 with no health issues at all . 1 week feeling rubbish then dead. 

[AVB]

50 minutes ago, team tractor said:

Just had a friend come in to work who just lost a mate at 53 with no health issues at all . 1 week feeling rubbish then dead. 

So that’s three relatively young, healthy people you know who have died of this. Statistically that’s off the scale. I’m glad I don’t know you 😅

[The Heron]

Apparently the new strain down south has the following signs firstly a desire not to wear socks then drink lager next cover a suit with pearls and watch eastenders but the worst one by far is thinking chaz and Dave were entertaining musicians. 

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, team tractor said:

Just had a friend come in to work who just lost a mate at 53 with no health issues at all . 1 week feeling rubbish then dead. 

 

10 minutes ago, AVB said:

So that’s three relatively young, healthy people you know who have died of this. Statistically that’s off the scale. I’m glad I don’t know you 😅

Just had my first covid death of someone I know.
My good friend and shooting buddy, a countryman his whole life.
Started off with a cold 6 weeks ago , positive test , then hospital, ventilator , dead.
66 years old with very mild diabetes, but apart from that, strong as an ox.

If there was anyone who I thought would survive it , it was him.
Strange disease , his mate , whos 10 years older with multiple health conditions, who caught it the same time , was virtually asymptomatic.

My stance hasnt changed, and neither would his , covid needs to be respected , but not over reacted to.
Lots of things can kill you, but only covid shuts the country down with all its consequences.

[AVB]

2 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

 

Just had my first covid death of someone I know.
My good friend and shooting buddy, a countryman his whole life.
Started off with a cold 6 weeks ago , positive test , then hospital, ventilator , dead.
66 years old with very mild diabetes, but apart from that, strong as an ox.

If there was anyone who I thought would survive it , it was him.
Strange disease , his mate , whos 10 years older with multiple health conditions, who caught it the same time , was virtually asymptomatic.

My stance hasnt changed, and neither would his , covid needs to be respected , but not over reacted to.
Lots of things can kill you, but only covid shuts the country down with all its consequences.

It’s pot luck. I heard of somebody the other day - 84 years, senile, bedridden, history of lung problems. Normally hospitalised once/month during the winter. Was in hospital two weeks ago and tested positive. No specific covid symptoms and still here. 

[team tractor]

3 hours ago, AVB said:

So that’s three relatively young, healthy people you know who have died of this. Statistically that’s off the scale. I’m glad I don’t know you 😅

Sounds bad but all friends of the girlfriend or workmate . I’ve lost enough mates recently without this so it’s kind of a blessing to me

[SpringDon]

5 hours ago, Rewulf said:

 

Just had my first covid death of someone I know.
My good friend and shooting buddy, a countryman his whole life.
Started off with a cold 6 weeks ago , positive test , then hospital, ventilator , dead.
66 years old with very mild diabetes, but apart from that, strong as an ox.

If there was anyone who I thought would survive it , it was him.
Strange disease , his mate , whos 10 years older with multiple health conditions, who caught it the same time , was virtually asymptomatic.

My stance hasnt changed, and neither would his , covid needs to be respected , but not over reacted to.
Lots of things can kill you, but only covid shuts the country down with all its consequences.

I would vote for that but I found out my mate and his wife had it and the main symptom was beer tasted horrible for two weeks. That appalling prospect has had me wall myself into the bathroom for the next 6 months and I’d recommend everyone does the same.

[RockySpears]

May be the link wad TL DR (Too long, didn't read):

 

 

That is all you need.

Annectdotes means we will all, in the end, know someone whom this thing killed.

But we know more who died of cancer.

We know more who died of heart attack.

We know lots of people who die, for lots of reasons, and this is just another one, and it is no more deadly than the rest, but look what they have done to us?

 

RS

Edited December 19, 2020 by RockySpears
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[Vince Green]

23 hours ago, Smokersmith said:

To those it kills, it's 100% deadly.

Its not just about dying, some of the survivors are in a pretty bad way and no clear expectation that they will ever be any better than they are now

even people who only had mild symptoms are still experiencing exhaustion and when they scan them there is scarring on the lungs

Its a very nasty virus

[Smokersmith]

Indeed ... see my later post!

[ordnance]

On 18/12/2020 at 11:40, RockySpears said:

Just a word on the actual statistics (from the WHO and John Hopkins)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/decimal-point-blew-world

Now, about all those destroyed lives, minds, businesses and livelihoods?

 

Or even: "Bock told CBS4 that because the victims had tested positive for COVID-19 within 30 days of having been shot by gunfire, the county classified them as “deaths among cases.”

That’s a curious definition, but one required by the national reporting rules created by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

 

RS

Yeah a good site for unbiased news LOL. 

 

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[treetree]

On 19/12/2020 at 20:04, Vince Green said:

 

Its a very nasty virus

...If you are in your 80s,  ill with something else and would probably have died within a year

[Rewulf]

19 hours ago, ordnance said:

Yeah a good site for unbiased news LOL. 

 

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Over time, Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis, including conspiracy theories  and fringe rhetoric that has been associated with the US radical right  and a pro-Russian bias.

 

Where did you get that completely unbiased opinion ?

[oowee]

On 19/12/2020 at 12:03, AVB said:

It’s pot luck. I heard of somebody the other day - 84 years, senile, bedridden, history of lung problems. Normally hospitalised once/month during the winter. Was in hospital two weeks ago and tested positive. No specific covid symptoms and still here. 

Daughter says their is evidence that those with damaged lungs (smoking etc) are less likely to over generate anti bodies than those with good lungs and as a result may not be as badly affected. There lungs are less able to react to the virus.

She said that they were more likely to die of pneumonia.