blackbird Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 It amazes me that plastic wad cartridges are not banned as we already have an environmentally friendly cartridge available (fibre wad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: It amazes me that plastic wad cartridges are not banned as we already have an environmentally friendly cartridge available (fibre wad) Can it handle steel shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Now that’s a good question, I have no idea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Beats me why plastic wads were ever invented. We already had biodegradable wad (vegetable felt). Whoever thought it was a good idea to litter everywhere with plastic wants stringingup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, London Best said: Beats me why plastic wads were ever invented. We already had biodegradable wad (vegetable felt). Whoever thought it was a good idea to litter everywhere with plastic wants stringingup. Volume and price were the main reasons but most of all was performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Yet "most" clay grounds still allow the useage and some farmers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Centrepin said: Yet "most" clay grounds still allow the useage and some farmers too. Rixton & Astley Shooting Club permits the use of plastic wad cartridges, but we prefer the use of fiber wad. As the land that we shoot on was a former tip we have no restrictions included in our lease. Whilst down range the plastic wads are unsightly most do seem to disintegrate over time, but we rarely come across a fiber wad, although I know that many members shoot them because I sell them the cartridges. I do feel that when possible game cartridges should be fiber wad. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 This is a argument I have lead comes out of the ground fiber wades are made from plants but plastic is man made and ruddy sight on the fields. plastic wades should be banned before lead shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 I had a Shooting Times mag from the early 1960s, and there was an article complaining about plastic wads so don’t hold your breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Hi blackbird .We all use plastic one way or another and have done for years. I’ve shot on four farms that had clay pigeon shoots , quite big shoots over many years . The wads, and a few empty cases are still there and there must be tons of lead shot. It must be the same on game shoots with the lead shot. We now have bio cartridges and cases as well. Plastic wads will be banned. The school kids are taught how plastic is bad for the environment and how to be green. The kids know all about the environment I couldn’t even spell it when I was at school . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Plastic once the tooling is made is cheapest. It also gives consistent results that are boringly the same excellence. It is why plastic corks are now favoured not only on cheap wines but also some high end price wines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Plastic once the tooling is made is cheapest. It also gives consistent results that are boringly the same excellence. Plastic wads also maximise the manufactures profits as they need less powder in the cartridge and can run the loading machines faster. should they be banned yes, but the consequence for steel shot is then costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, rbrowning2 said: Plastic wads also maximise the manufactures profits as they need less powder in the cartridge and can run the loading machines faster. This +1. It was ever "all about the Benjamins" for the USA loaders that first presented these plastic wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I prefer plastic, easier to reload and better performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 14 hours ago, London Best said: Beats me why plastic wads were ever invented. We already had biodegradable wad (vegetable felt). Whoever thought it was a good idea to litter everywhere with plastic wants stringingup. Agreed, (modern technology) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 it was a good idea when the surge in home loaders started in the sixtys much more simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 hours ago, enfieldspares said: Plastic once the tooling is made is cheapest. It also gives consistent results that are boringly the same excellence. It is why plastic corks are now favoured not only on cheap wines but also some high end price wines. When is a Cork not a Cork LOL it don't get any dafter, I thought the idea was to let it breathe but what do I know, back to wads I thought we had an alternative to plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 The problem with cork is it isn't in lower grades consistent. And any cork can carry TCA and if it does the wine is spoiled. As a wad in shotgun cartridges cork wads weren't that successful as driving wads. Eley used to use cork overshot wads in crimed closed plastic "waterproof" cartridges. But as a driving wad too inconsistent. Here's an interesting article about cork corks and plastic corks for wine: https://winefolly.com/deep-dive/chemist-explains-corks-matter-storing-wine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, steve s×s said: When is a Cork not a Cork LOL it don't get any dafter, I thought the idea was to let it breathe but what do I know, back to wads I thought we had an alternative to plastic Wine breathes when the cork is removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberisle Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 When i am out and i find any plastic wads or cases i pick them up and take them home and bin them, the wads go in the recycling bin and the cases go in the normal bin, i have a pocket of wads from my last trip out to stick in the bin just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 58 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Wine breathes when the cork is removed. It doesn't get chance in our den, 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, steve s×s said: It doesn't get chance in our den, 😆 You may be related to my ex wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: You may be related to my ex wife! Funniest thing is I only have one glass then the rest dissappears, So you there could be a connection 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, steve s×s said: Funniest thing is I only have one glass then the rest dissappears, So you there could be a connection 😆 My house, when it was OUR house used to suffer terrible evaporation, even through corks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: My house, when it was OUR house used to suffer terrible evaporation, even through corks! And then people ask why do you want to shoot things 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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