Rim Fire Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 10 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm no fan of the guy personally. My only worry is as much as I dislike him, he is one of the few counter balances to an overly left leaning woke mainstream media and he wasn't afraid to air alternative views regardless of if I agreed with them or not. I feel its a bad day for free speech in this country. Got to agree he would ask questions that nobody else would ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, mel b3 said: but it would be just about impossible to sack him because of his colour. I agree 100%, but it is really wrong that this is the case. I didn't see the incident, but from what I have read both on this thread and elsewhere, both were guilty of poor behaviour. I also agree (strongly) with the poster who suggested that weather men should stick to weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Wrong place Edited March 10, 2021 by mel b3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 12 hours ago, dodgyrog said: I have no tv and never miss it. Hah! nice to know there is at least one other sensible person in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I didn't see the incident, but from what I have read both on this thread and elsewhere, both were guilty of poor behaviour. I also agree (strongly) with the poster who suggested that weather men should stick to weather. 😳 Perhaps watch it first then judge it second? I strongly dislike Piers Morgan in many ways, however he does hold people to account and believe he is (unfortunately) a great asset to British media. He should never have been sacked over this incident, even if he was incorrect. I personally believe he was correct but no one can prove that. I also strongly dislike Megan Markle. Nonetheless anyone who thinks the weatherman, Alex Beresford, behaved inappropriately is blinded by their own prejudices. 6.36am - the lovely Reid asks AB his opinion, there is a little tension on speaking order but he gives his opinion (as requested) in a rational and cool manner. PM gets very emotional and runs off. 6.53am - PM accuses AB of being uncivil. AB clarifies that he knows PM on and offscreen and he knows PM is in no way racist etc but nonetheless AB feels that he cannot ignore his difference in opinion on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 12 hours ago, MrPhantom said: I always found him entertaining. Yes, he was a self opinionated egotist who thought GMB was the Piers Morgan Show but he wasn’t dull. Who will replace him I wonder? 🤔 I think the Weather Man will - initially anyway - it might stick permanently -but ticks the boxes they want ticking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Perhaps watch it first then judge it second? I'm not particularly interested to watch it. It happened - and as I never watch daytime TV, it doesn't affect me at all - BUT I stand by what I said, namely I have read a lot about it - and it seems to me (from many opinions) that BOTH were guilty of poor behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Bye and large who really cares. Is it important no. Can't beleave its all over the news right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I'm not particularly interested to watch it. It happened - and as I never watch daytime TV, it doesn't affect me at all - BUT I stand by what I said, namely I have read a lot about it - and it seems to me (from many opinions) that BOTH were guilty of poor behaviour. I don’t have a television but to comment on this thread I reviewed the relevant footage on my phone. I also time stamped the footage I reviewed in case I had missed any relevant material. It took only a few minutes and I was shocked to see the departure of the reactions on here from what actually happened as I had been expecting it to be radically different. At least reviewing the evidence meant that my opinion was an informed opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: I don’t have a television but to comment on this thread I reviewed the relevant footage on my phone. I also time stamped the footage I reviewed in case I had missed any relevant material. It took only a few minutes and I was shocked to see the departure of the reactions on here from what actually happened as I had been expecting it to be radically different. At least reviewing the evidence meant that my opinion was an informed opinion. Oh come on, please don't let the "facts" cloud peoples judgement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, WalkedUp said: At least reviewing the evidence meant that my opinion was an informed opinion. As I say - I have read the 'press', and that has included clips ......... but I didn't take the clips as particularly 'evidential' because they are simply clips - chosen by the editor to make a point. I don't much like Morgan (though take on board points made above). It takes two (or more) to fall out. Hence my feeling that both were 'guilty'. On the broader point - it is also a worry that BAME people seem able to make 'race sensitive' comments that would not be acceptable from white people. That was the original point with which I was agreeing in my first post on this thread. The same rules/acceptability should apply regardless of race/ethnicity status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The same rules/acceptability should apply regardless of race/ethnicity status Agree 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, WalkedUp said: Agree 👍 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 40 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: 😳 Perhaps watch it first then judge it second? I strongly dislike Piers Morgan in many ways, however he does hold people to account and believe he is (unfortunately) a great asset to British media. He should never have been sacked over this incident, even if he was incorrect. I personally believe he was correct but no one can prove that. I also strongly dislike Megan Markle. Nonetheless anyone who thinks the weatherman, Alex Beresford, behaved inappropriately is blinded by their own prejudices. 6.36am - the lovely Reid asks AB his opinion, there is a little tension on speaking order but he gives his opinion (as requested) in a rational and cool manner. PM gets very emotional and runs off. 6.53am - PM accuses AB of being uncivil. AB clarifies that he knows PM on and offscreen and he knows PM is in no way racist etc but nonetheless AB feels that he cannot ignore his difference in opinion on this. You may have missed the bit where it gets personal about Megan and Pierce Morgan's friendship...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddo3uo4ssDc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Well worth paying for the BBC and get away from the drama queens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: As I say - I have read the 'press', and that has included clips ......... but I didn't take the clips as particularly 'evidential' because they are simply clips - chosen by the editor to make a point. I don't much like Morgan (though take on board points made above). It takes two (or more) to fall out. Hence my feeling that both were 'guilty'. On the broader point - it is also a worry that BAME people seem able to make 'race sensitive' comments that would not be acceptable from white people. That was the original point with which I was agreeing in my first post on this thread. The same rules/acceptability should apply regardless of race/ethnicity status There is a culture war going on, like him or loathe him Piers Morgan has fallen victim to it. It seems that certain parts of the media are trying to change our culture by stifling views/opinions that do not fit in with theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let us see if the race/ethnicity statues applies as both should now GO as it was getting personal on air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Oh come on, please don't let the "facts" cloud peoples judgement! 😂👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, old'un said: You may have missed the bit where it gets personal about Megan and Pierce Morgan's friendship...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddo3uo4ssDc Thank you for the link, I had seen that but didn’t feel it was in any way inappropriate. To me it seemed relevant background to the discussion over whether PM’s comments the day before had gone too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, old'un said: It seems that certain parts of the media are trying to change our culture by stifling views/opinions that do not fit in with theirs. I agree and it is wrong. There are a lot of the BLM warriors making statements (outside the present particular PM or H&M topics) who I strongly suspect would be in trouble if white people spouted similar statements. The idea that you can get away with making controversial statements only because you are a minority (and it applies to feminist, LGBQ, Trans etc. as well as race to other minority interests) which would be unacceptable elsewhere doesn't sit comfortably with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, JohnfromUK said: There are a lot of the BLM warriors making statements (outside the present particular PM or H&M topics) who I strongly suspect would be in trouble if white people spouted similar statements. The idea that you can get away with making controversial statements only because you are a minority (and it applies to feminist, LGBQ, Trans etc. as well as race to other minority interests) which would be unacceptable elsewhere doesn't sit comfortably with me. Again, I agree with this 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, WalkedUp said: Again, I agree with this 👍 On two agreements - I shall now shut up! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, oowee said: Well worth paying for the BBC and get away from the drama queens. I'm sorry, i do not understand your comment. More drama QUEENS at the BBC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I believe that we are now in WW1 - Woke War 1 - and the (silent) majority are on the losing side sorry to say - I have told my kids (and I got scolded from SWMBO for this) to seriously consider going to another country at the first opportunity that they can as I believe that we are soon to be lost as a nation!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, discobob said: I believe that we are now in WW1 - Woke War 1 - and the (silent) majority are on the losing side sorry to say - I have told my kids (and I got scolded from SWMBO for this) to seriously consider going to another country at the first opportunity that they can as I believe that we are soon to be lost as a nation!! We will be fine - Farage has stated he is to play an 'active anti woke' part. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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