Dave at kelton Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Had to share this bad news. Not affecting wildfowling at present but caution recommended. After surveys yesterday the latest numbers of dead birds are as follows: In the Caerlaverock NNR wildfowling zone over 60 dead barnacles and 1 dead swan with 4 other barnacles showing signs of illness. WWT reported 6 dead swans and over 30 dead barnacles on Monday with 4-5 dying a day at the moment, they suspect an under count as they haven’t counted along the merse edge. We have been receiving reports of dead barnacles along the eastern shore of the reserve as well as at RSPB Mersehead, I don’t have confirmed numbers for these locations. In addition we have had a report of one dead mallard (Priestside) and a dead wigeon (inland on the Estate) We will continue to monitor on the reserve to provide data to the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) and DEFRA; if you come across any dead or sickly animals elsewhere, below is the contact number for reporting: Avian influenza (bird flu) is a notifiable animal disease, dead wild waterfowl (swans, geese or ducks) or other dead wild birds, such as gulls or birds of prey, as part of Scottish Government, Defra and Welsh Government’s surveillance for avian influenza should be reported to the Defra helpline (03459 33 55 77) (Option 7). DO NOT touch or pick up any dead or visibly sick birds that you find. For further information see our advice to the public. The revision of the risk assessment under the The Avian Influenza (H5N1 in Wild birds) (Scotland) Order 2007 is currently underway. The risk of incursion of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) H5 infection in wild birds remains at HIGH (occurs often). The risk of poultry and captive bird exposure to HPAI H5 across Great Britain is MEDIUM (with medium uncertainty) where biosecurity is sub-optimal, and is LOW (with medium uncertainty) where stringent biosecurity measures are applied. In light of the high number of recent wild bird findings, it is likely that the risk of poultry and captive bird exposure to HPAI H5 across Great Britain will be amended in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 That sounds all very depressing Dave what’s the outlook for the rest of the seasons fowling ? Bleak ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just one thing after another , lets hope it's contained and don't sweep the width and breath of the country . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 It has been around here for a few weeks now. Not seen any cases myself, but I understand in the centre of Worcester city there have been several dead swans. https://www.worcester.gov.uk/news/public-urged-not-to-touch-sick-or-dead-birds I am surprised that people who have handled are being told to take antivirals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookandrabbit Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 How very sad I hope it does not spread but there are pockets springing up as notifications in Cheshire and Lancashire in the past few days on the local news. Stayed at a cottage near Caerlaverock and it was a beautiful view over the WWT marsh towards the River Nith and the Solway…….Happier times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 It's already in LANCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 I heard of an outbreak on a poultry farm but that is really very bad news indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, holloway said: That sounds all very depressing Dave what’s the outlook for the rest of the seasons fowling ? Bleak ? Hoping not and certainly no talk yet of adversely affecting wildfowling but will update if there are any developments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, mgsontour said: It's already in LANCS Yes, they said on the radio two cases, in two areas but I'm not sure how many birds have been affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Mice! said: Yes, they said on the radio two cases, in two areas but I'm not sure how many birds have been affected. Chicken holding near Preston unsure about there seems to be a good few geese about this year, my house is under a flightline as an example and it's busy am/pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, mgsontour said: Chicken holding near Preston unsure about there seems to be a good few geese about this year, my house is under a flightline as an example and it's busy am/pm I've just had a look. It says an unnamed poultry farm, but then they put this up, that covers a very big area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave at kelton said: Hoping not and certainly no talk yet of adversely affecting wildfowling but will update if there are any developments Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royden Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 A neighbour has just told me that there have been reports of avian flu on Chasewater here in the midlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 We've had three dead swans at a local lake grounds, one was found headless, unsure if this has any bearing on avian flu, rspb did post mortem and it was inconclusive, so not stating idiots killing them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Grierson Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I found a dead Whooper swan 10 days ago whilst walking on the Craigs moss next to the Lochar water, 4 miles south of Dumfries. Didn't think to report it then, but on reading of other wild fowl being found locally, I phoned the Defra number, apart from taking over 30 minutes for my call to be answered, it felt like a waste of time. The woman said there was no record of bird flu in this area at the moment, I told her I'd read a bbc article on that very subject, she however didn't know anything about that and had to establish whether to do a report, since it was 10 dys ago and the swan has since been eaten by foxes/badgers, so therefore not available for testing. A lot of effort for a very disappointing result. Hope other reports are taken more seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 We have now got a couple of cases of the dreaded bird flu in Norfolk , one just near the Holkham Estate , plenty of Pinks around that area if it started to spread out .worrying times for the poultry farmers and wildfowlers alike . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 It’s been reported on the Midlands BBC that the swans on the Avon at Stratford have been culled with it and a Swa n rescue centre towards Droitwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Latest from Caerlaverock not looking good!😢😢 We have had confirmation from the Animal and Plant Health Agency that the barnacle sent for testing from the reserve on the 12th November has H5N1. This week we have carried out a second survey between Kenneth Bank and Moss-side to count dead and sick birds, to note we found dead and sick pink footed geese for the first time yesterday. Summary of numbers found: 96 dead barnacles 34 sick barnacles 2 dead whooper swans 4 dead pink footed geese 1 sick pink footed goose (These totals dont include WWT sanctuary area who are seeing 5-8 sick barnacles a day at the moment) We are in regular contact with Defra and the APHA who have advised the reserve staff that although the risk of transmission to humans is rated low it is still a risk and to avoid contact with wild birds and to ensure we comply with the highest levels of biosecurity (full body protective clothing) where we must have any contact (e.g. for monitoring/sample collection). The latest position on the Scottish government website is that the with the confirmed cases of H5N1 in Fife and Dumfries the situation is currently still being assessed in terms of disease control requirements - https://www.gov.scot/publications/avian-influenza-bird-flu/, at this time we don’t know if there will be a change to the Solway to a control zone. For now the government guidance remains that if you do shoot to follow good personal biosecurity and should regularly cleanse and disinfect clothing, footwear and vehicles – this is particularly important if you have any contact with game birds, poultry or other captive birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) On 22/11/2021 at 10:22, Marion Grierson said: I found a dead Whooper swan 10 days ago whilst walking on the Craigs moss next to the Lochar water, 4 miles south of Dumfries. Didn't think to report it then, but on reading of other wild fowl being found locally, I phoned the Defra number, apart from taking over 30 minutes for my call to be answered, it felt like a waste of time. The woman said there was no record of bird flu in this area at the moment, I told her I'd read a bbc article on that very subject, she however didn't know anything about that and had to establish whether to do a report, since it was 10 dys ago and the swan has since been eaten by foxes/badgers, so therefore not available for testing. A lot of effort for a very disappointing result. Hope other reports are taken more seriously! A good thought Marion. You can only do your bit correctly? It is DEFRA after all who can be a bit disjointed at times? Confirmed Chase Water now. Edited November 24, 2021 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted December 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 For anyone following this here is the latest statement: I thought I would let you know the dead bird count on the Caerlaverock NNR to date. 1098 dead barnacles (700 within the past 9 days) 25 dead pinks – (this number does not include pricked birds) 9 Whooper swans 8 gulls More recently we have seen ill waders – curlew (died) and grey plover. Our carcass counts have included other species, but we have listed these separately as we cannot be certain that the cause has been avian flu. In addition, we have a total of 83 sick birds on this week’s counts, mostly barnacle with a mix of pink footed geese and other birds making up the balance. Based on data gathered so far, the die off in the barnacle population around the Solway is 4000 geese, along with percentages similar to Caerlaverock NNR counts of other species. To note that given ground conditions and resource availability this has to be considered an undercount. Last week, NatureScot, Natural England, RSPB and WWT met with the lead vet at the Animal and Plant Health Agency and the Scottish Government contact in Rural Affairs, Food and Environment. It was an opportunity to confirm the totals reported to DEFRA and to discuss the impact and implications of the findings around the Solway; you will probably have noticed a recent increase in the media coverage of the outbreak. We will now continue direct contact with APHA and SG over the coming weeks to provide die off figures for the duration of this unprecedented outbreak. It would be very helpful if you could continue to report any dead bird findings, out with the reserve boundary, via the DEFRA helpline - 03459 335577. If we hear of any guidance or advice changes we will pass these on as soon as we are aware. Below is a reminder of the links to the guidance to help stay informed over the coming weeks. https://www.gov.scot/publications/avian-influenza-bird-flu/ https://www.gov.scot/publications/avian-influenza-bird-flu/pages/dead-or-sick-wild-birds-what-to-do/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 It is now claimed it has crossed (in at least one case here) to the human population; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10375255/Now-Britain-gets-hit-BIRD-FLU-Health-chiefs-detect-strain-person-South-West-England.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: It is now claimed it has crossed (in at least one case here) to the human population; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10375255/Now-Britain-gets-hit-BIRD-FLU-Health-chiefs-detect-strain-person-South-West-England.html Yes a person has caught it near where I live ,he or she was in close contact with captive birds the human case had no symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 16/12/2021 at 22:04, Dave at kelton said: Last week, NatureScot, Natural England, RSPB and WWT met with the lead vet at the Animal and Plant Health Agency and the Scottish Government contact in Rural Affairs, Food and Environment. It was an opportunity to confirm the totals reported to DEFRA and to discuss the impact and implications of the findings around the Solway; Notable absence (s) from this list is" representatives" from B'sAC,SACS, CA, et al..... No wonder the shooting man considers that these "organisations" do not represent their interests - just leave it to the anti-field sports organisations to be involved in a major avian welfare issue. Why oh Why do people buy memberships in these self-serving orgs. PS - Thank you Dave at Kelton for providing this information. See B'sAC website for....diddly squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, harkom said: See B'sAC website for....diddly squat. https://basc.org.uk/avian-influenza/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, harkom said: Notable absence (s) from this list is" representatives" from B'sAC,SACS, CA, et al..... No wonder the shooting man considers that these "organisations" do not represent their interests - just leave it to the anti-field sports organisations to be involved in a major avian welfare issue. Why oh Why do people buy memberships in these self-serving orgs. PS - Thank you Dave at Kelton for providing this information. See B'sAC website for....diddly squat. It’s on the Basc website and has been for ages I’ve been following from the start ! Why have you posted there is nothing on there website ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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