ditchman Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 now ...im your average thicko....and i am staggered at the ammont of money that has been thrown at this machine........TO WHAT eh !...does it make better ice cream ..NO...does it reduce my heating bill NO.... it has as far as i can see been of zero benifit to the planet or humanity....it is more similar to a money laundering operation....keeps several thousand chosen nerds well paid what am i going to do with the boson - hicks particle eh !...........and they are all getting stiffies that they have for dark matter is all over the cosmos what an utter waste of money and total testicles QUESTION "What has the large hadron collider ever done for us "............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Nothing BUT.....look back in history for similar things which we now consider everyday.....so I add YET to my answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 "What has the large hadron collider ever done for us "............. Well its given me something to do for the last 2 minutes, trying to find out what your on about. Still none the wiser, possibly a washing machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, ditchman said: now ...im your average thicko....and i am staggered at the ammont of money that has been thrown at this machine........TO WHAT eh !...does it make better ice cream ..NO...does it reduce my heating bill NO.... it has as far as i can see been of zero benifit to the planet or humanity....it is more similar to a money laundering operation....keeps several thousand chosen nerds well paid what am i going to do with the boson - hicks particle eh !...........and they are all getting stiffies that they have for dark matter is all over the cosmos what an utter waste of money and total particles QUESTION "What has the large hadron collider ever done for us "............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Its contribution to each and everyone of us is incalculable. My future Son in Law regularly goes to the much smaller Diamond Light Source (Harwell near Oxford) where they use the electron microscopy to examine the surface of substances used in medicine. If ever you get the chance book in for a tour it really is inspiring. You can ask all sorts of dumb questions, like I did, of amazing mega brain types who run the tours. Its free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, oowee said: Its contribution to each and everyone of us is incalculable. My future Son in Law regularly goes to the much smaller Diamond Light Source (Harwell near Oxford) where they use the electron microscopy to examine the surface of substances used in medicine. If ever you get the chance book in for a tour it really is inspiring. You can ask all sorts of dumb questions, like I did, of amazing mega brain types who run the tours. Its free. the DLS is of emmense benifit..................what benifit is the LHC... conversation goes as such.................... "oooohhh woppdy doooo....we'have just done a spin on the LHC and we have found a new element.....it is in the metal area and 20,000 times stronger than tungstan...." (investeor)..........."thats fantastic....we can make concrete mixers that dont wear out...engines than dont need oil...and great space ships to mars........." (Nerd)..........."just one problem tho' that we are working on.......the metal particle is only in excistance for 10,000 x to the power of -9 nano seconds...and then it disappears..." DDoooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Can it make lead free cartridges cheaply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, old'un said: Can it make lead free cartridges cheaply? now you are being silly it would be too easy for the govt to tax 1 minute ago, ditchman said: now you are being silly it would be too easy for the govt to tax we could use Uranium....proberly cheaper than lead..........i belive that lead is actually totally depleted inert uranium..in its final state bar one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 The search for knowledge is relentless. Its part of the human condition "to boldly go where no man has been" or whatever? plus, as you say it keeps a few hundred over qualified nerds off the dole and (topically at the moment) keeps the Russians and the Chinese wondering what we are really up to and what we have discovered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, ditchman said: now you are being silly it would be too easy for the govt to tax we could use Uranium....proberly cheaper than lead..........i belive that lead is actually totally depleted inert uranium..in its final state bar one that's a pity as it can accelerate protons close to the speed of light, now that would be some cartridge, mind you it would more than likely vaporise you and your gun. Did you know that in 2012 they discovered Higgs boson, who the hell he is I have no idea 18 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The search for knowledge is relentless. Its part of the human condition "to boldly go where no man has been" or whatever? plus, as you say it keeps a few hundred over qualified nerds off the dole and (topically at the moment) keeps the Russians and the Chinese wondering what we are really up to and what we have discovered when I was still wet behind the ears the older lads used to say that about a local girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The search for knowledge is relentless. Its part of the human condition "to boldly go where no man has been" or whatever? plus, as you say it keeps a few hundred over qualified nerds off the dole and (topically at the moment) keeps the Russians and the Chinese wondering what we are really up to and what we have discovered I am in Essex tonight boldly going into Chelmsford tonight. Its a different world down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, oowee said: Its contribution to each and everyone of us is incalculable. My future Son in Law regularly goes to the much smaller Diamond Light Source (Harwell near Oxford) where they use the electron microscopy to examine the surface of substances used in medicine. If ever you get the chance book in for a tour it really is inspiring. You can ask all sorts of dumb questions, like I did, of amazing mega brain types who run the tours. Its free. Hello, quite near me and often thought to go a see, the engineering work is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, quite near me and often thought to go a see, the engineering work is amazing Go and see it their are tours on now. Its fascinating. Book on the Web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, old'un said: that's a pity as it can accelerate protons close to the speed of light, now that would be some cartridge, mind you it would more than likely vaporise you and your gun. I have tried LightSpeed cartridges- kicked like a mule!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 The LHC will provide the answer to the mythical " warp drive " eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 I am no mega brain - but it’s trying to work out the bits of the paticle that they don’t understand yet - dark mater ! This is also the ever expanding stuff in most of the universe ! after the Big Bang. so if the mega brains can work out how it works can it be used to create energy and if this is why the universe is still able to grow after the Big Bang at the moment it’s all about proving theory that we then have to build something else to prove that this is wrong. Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Agriv8 said: I am no mega brain - but it’s trying to work out the bits of the paticle that they don’t understand yet - dark mater ! This is also the ever expanding stuff in most of the universe ! after the Big Bang. so if the mega brains can work out how it works can it be used to create energy and if this is why the universe is still able to grow after the Big Bang at the moment it’s all about proving theory that we then have to build something else to prove that this is wrong. Agriv8 sounds like a govt' template..for effective government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Latest news is our solar system is inside a bubble, inside a bigger bubble. I like it in my own bubble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 4 hours ago, vmaxphil said: The LHC will provide the answer to the mythical " warp drive " eventually I thought that was the dilthium crystals ( Star Trek ) and will they work to power my van rather than diesel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, Agriv8 said: I thought that was the dilthium crystals ( Star Trek ) and will they work to power my van rather than diesel ? The only service it will reqiure is the 'Spock Plugs' changing every gazillion miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 hours ago, 7daysinaweek said: Latest news is our solar system is inside a bubble, inside a bigger bubble. I like it in my own bubble! has the universe got corvid-19 then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ditchman said: has the universe got corvid-19 then ? It would appear so Ditchy. It is currently social distancing from all the other solar systems. Edited April 23, 2022 by 7daysinaweek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV98 Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 I believe th LHC was developed to try and prove/disprove the currently accepted standard model of particle physics by creating all the different particles in the collider, measuring them and then essentially seeing how it fits with their predictions. Also it's used to probe the very high energy density conditions which were present just after the big bang and answer the fundamental question about how we came to be. This is my understanding of it, I could be a bit wrong, to be honest I don't think what they are doing at the LHC to do with particle physics is very useful. The work done at the diamond light source to use neutron, x-ray and electron scattering to probe the magnetic and atomic structure of materials is much more interesting as its essential in the development of new and improved material for various applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, LV98 said: I believe th LHC was developed to try and prove/disprove the currently accepted standard model of particle physics by creating all the different particles in the collider, measuring them and then essentially seeing how it fits with their predictions. Also it's used to probe the very high energy density conditions which were present just after the big bang and answer the fundamental question about how we came to be. This is my understanding of it, I could be a bit wrong, to be honest I don't think what they are doing at the LHC to do with particle physics is very useful. The work done at the diamond light source to use neutron, x-ray and electron scattering to probe the magnetic and atomic structure of materials is much more interesting as its essential in the development of new and improved material for various applications. my thoughts as well.............money could have been put into something far more useful in the science engineering sector for the benifit of man/humanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreco Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 I believe my watch was initially developed for working in conditions like the LHC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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