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JohnfromUK

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If people are really serious about helping the environment, saving the planet, reducing their carbon footprint etc. the actual way forward is this;

  1. reduce as much as possible fuel usage - and that mean all fuels - because ALL produce carbon, even so called clean electricity - which uses vast quantities of concrete, steel, copper in construction.  Reduce mileage covered, especially those miles (mainly air travel) that are big carbon emitters.
  2. make all goods (cars, TVs, phones, washing machines etc.) last longer - recycling and making new is a heavy user of resources and energy.
  3. when things do get to 'end of life', recycle and when replacing buy the most energy efficient feasible.
  4. reduce wastage - food, fuel, travel, by cutting out the unnecessary and being more thoughtful about usage
  5. grow greenery - grass, woods, bushes etc.  They all lock up carbon and reduce CO2 from the atmosphere as they grow.  Concrete, tarmac etc uses fuel and doesn't lock up carbon by 'growing'.  In the UK, for every average person's carbon usage, roughly a few acres of greenery does 'offset' what is emitted.  The actual figure is much disputed (it depends on how you do figures) but the underlying principle is sound.

There is a problem - and it is one of an ever expanding global population - all wanting a 'high wastage' western style life - on a fixed size globe with fixed locked in resources of carbon and only a low rate of reconverting atmospheric CO2 back to 'locked in' carbon (i.e. coal, oil, gas, wood etc.)  

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udderlyoffroad

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I'm not sure I see the issue here.

Anytime National Grid or district network operators want to lay new cables, NIMBYs and greenies object, citing the environment.  Yet nobody wants to live without electricity.

The RSPB, we all know by now, are a steaming bunch of hypocrites, best not donated to, much less listened to.

 

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Pushandpull

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There will be a massive pylon-based connection running from near Norwich across Norfolk and Suffolk to Tilbury Essex, with a short stretch underground (Dedham Vale) so the impact on wildlife and agriculture will be considerable. It's not just RSPB reserves.

There is an alternative plan for a "ring main" in inshore waters but - surprise - it would cost more.

Richard Negus, the Shooting Times columnist, has written about it in his podcast "Words from the Hedge" recently.

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islandgun

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The irony is breathtaking, green energy at the expense of nature, supporters of green energy having it aimed directly at their back yard, national grid lying and cost cutting, whilst activists glue themselves to the road to save the planet..Surely Swampy has some offspring..🙃

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oldypigeonpopper

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2 hours ago, islandgun said:

The irony is breathtaking, green energy at the expense of nature, supporters of green energy having it aimed directly at their back yard, national grid lying and cost cutting, whilst activists glue themselves to the road to save the planet..Surely Swampy has some offspring..🙃

Hello, aahh  our man  Swampy , I thought he retired to Somerset ? No last reported living on a commune in Wales , has 3 mini swampys 🤔😁

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Jaymo

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3 hours ago, Pushandpull said:

There will be a massive pylon-based connection running from near Norwich across Norfolk and Suffolk to Tilbury Essex, with a short stretch underground (Dedham Vale) so the impact on wildlife and agriculture will be considerable. It's not just RSPB reserves.

There is an alternative plan for a "ring main" in inshore waters but - surprise - it would cost more.

Richard Negus, the Shooting Times columnist, has written about it in his podcast "Words from the Hedge" recently.

Do you happen to know the routing? 

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Minky

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All hot wind.  The protesters will shout at the moon if it suits their idea.  If you do it that's wrong and if you don't thats wrong.   Any work will be monitored to a hair on a line.  The wildlife will probably perch on the machinery and feed on the workings.  Ok stuff will move out of the way but when its done after the protesters have gone home the wildlife will all return.  This happens on all works like the hawks on the motorway embankments. 

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Jaymo

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12 minutes ago, Pushandpull said:

Jaymo, if you simply google "pylons norwich to tilbury" it will produce a number of maps plis other information.

Thanks for that. 
This ‘Capitalist’ will not be profiting from the routing. 
But it does go right by one of my permissions. 

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We've no chance. The rate that we are losing the remaining countryside in South Yorkshire where we live is astounding, two massive distribution centres and three new housing estates. Two which are being built on green belt. There are not enough GP practices, schools and infrastructure to support the current population.  And surprise surprise local hotels are now filled with asylum seekers. 

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Pushkin

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In trying to cut down power costs at home, I have been looking at these so called turbo room heaters as advertised at the top of the forum pages often, Has anyone bought one or know of someone who has and what is the opinion of these heaters.  The main article in this topic seems very short sighted as regards what is planned.  Simples - what happens if the cable breaks for some reason?

 

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Pushkin:good:

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NatureBoy

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Going to be 180km in total and trash a lot of habitat and important sites doing it, including SSSI's etc. . . . . Also interesting in local news, 2 seals have managed to gain access (separately) to the salt water intake to Sizewell power station and have been living in the station for some months despite efforts to return/remove them. Not very secure?    NB

 

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TIGHTCHOKE

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18 hours ago, Pushkin said:

In trying to cut down power costs at home, I have been looking at these so called turbo room heaters as advertised at the top of the forum pages often, Has anyone bought one or know of someone who has and what is the opinion of these heaters.  The main article in this topic seems very short sighted as regards what is planned.  Simples - what happens if the cable breaks for some reason?

A friend of a colleague bought one and as expected it was carp, very expensive to run as it runs on electricity.

He also struggled to return it for a refund!

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