Keith 66 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 As Above, the next round of elections in May will require Voters to provide Photo Identification, On the radio this morning it was stated there are 20 types of Photo ID that are acceptable. I asked my wife who is doing presciding officer for a polling station in Basildon district if a Shotgun or Firearm certificate was acceptable as photo ID. She wasnt sure but said "I will ask the question" & emailed the question. So this afternoon an email from the Electroral Services Administrator returns, "Unfortunately a shotgun/firearms licence is not an acceptable form of photo ID". But you will be fine with a Passport, Photo Driving licence, Older or Disabled persons bus pass, Oyster card, Welsh concessionary travel card etc etc. So there you have it folks, Dont bother turning up with your SGC or FAC with photo & duly signed by the Cheif Constable as they wont accept it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Less people will turn out to vote for sure because half way to the polling station will will have forgot ID and will never make 2 trips; IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Have had mixed reactions whenever I’ve presented mine, from flat refusal ( one person didn’t even know there was such a thing ) to no problem. I don’t intend to vote anyhow so it’s no biggy, but will present mine and see what the reaction is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Keith 66 said: Dont bother turning up with your SGC or FAC with photo & duly signed by the Cheif Constable as they wont accept it! I had no (current) passport and no (photo) driving license for a few years (now have both), but SCG was almost always not accepted. I once pointed out that it was signed by the police - to much laughter. Personally, I would be perfectly happy with an ID card if it was introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, mgsontour said: Less people will turn out to vote for sure because half way to the polling station will will have forgot ID and will never make 2 trips; IMO Maybe part of the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) I though they said that a shotgun or Firearm license would be OK when they 1st came up with the idea, after they are harder to get than a passport. just checked accepted ID old passports are acceptable, Edited February 21, 2023 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 i tried years ago to open a bank account they would not accept my sgc. or fac he asked if i had a rent book they would accept that so i asked if i bought a rent book from the post office and filled it in you would accept that he said yes i laughed and he said sorry its the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 I would never consider using my SC as identification. Don’t want to advertise all and sundry I have guns in the house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambam1962 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 A few years ago I-spent a week working at RAF Benson in Oxfordshire and had to supply 2 documents with photo ID. My passport was in for renewal, so I produced my SG & FC as proof of ID and was accepted no problem. They were more concerned about the contents of my tool box and checked to make sure I didn’t have a Stanley knife in my kit as this wasn’t allowed on site but I could have a Dolphin knife, which didn’t make sense as they both take Stanley blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Shambam1962 said: They were more concerned about the contents of my tool box and checked to make sure I didn’t have a Stanley knife in my kit as this wasn’t allowed on site but I could have a Dolphin knife, which didn’t make sense as they both take Stanley blades. There banned where i work too because some numpty cut his face with one, i would have trusted him with a chocolate digestive after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 In America, Democrats say voter ID is racist because getting a ID is too complicated for black people. I literally walk into a polling place say I live in the district and cast a vote. My name isn’t even on the ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: Personally, I would be perfectly happy with an ID card if it was introduced. These are already available. Edit - seems the official government one has been scrapped, but there are others that are accepted as proof of ID, such as the post office Pass card. 8 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Democrats say voter ID is racist because getting a ID is too complicated for black people Sounds like the Democrats are very racist. If they actually said that. Edited February 22, 2023 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: These are already available. Edit - seems the official government one has been scrapped, but there are others that are accepted as proof of ID, such as the post office Pass card. They are - They are also not free (£15 on 21 days, or £30 on fast turnround) and last 3 years so you would need a new one for each election. There is a free "Voter Authority Certificate" for those who have no other valid ID. Pass is listed as OK for voting, and it seems CitizenCard is also "Pass" under a different brand (i.e. not Post Office branded). I believe CitizenCard actually run the Pass card system. Yes, the official Gov't one was scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 All for it. I wouldn't use my scg though, just use my driving licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 When my SGC came up for renewal I went to my Doctors surgery to ask if they would fill in the Doctors pro forma. They refused, so I requested a copy of my Medical records. They asked for photo I.D. I showed them my Shotgun Cert. They were not amused ! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 hours ago, old man said: Maybe part of the plan? I thought that TBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, mgsontour said: I thought that TBH Confusion suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, old man said: Confusion suits? Obfuscation is also a powerful tool for the hoi polloi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 How are they going to implement it for postal votes? That is the big voting scam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: How are they going to implement it for postal votes? That is the big voting scam? I'm afraid that will remain until someone finds a practical way of doing it - or restricts postal to (say) registered disabled - but that would leave out those away from home on holiday/business etc. Maybe you can do an 'on-line' remote vote with security checks in some way (like on-line banking, Gov't gateway, or other), but that would penalise those who aren't 'on-line'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I'm afraid that will remain until someone finds a practical way of doing it - or restricts postal to (say) registered disabled - but that would leave out those away from home on holiday/business etc. Maybe you can do an 'on-line' remote vote with security checks in some way (like on-line banking, Gov't gateway, or other), but that would penalise those who aren't 'on-line'. Digital ID? I see B liar and Hague are clamouring for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Penelope said: Digital ID? I see B liar and Hague are clamouring for it. The 'terminology' is unclear to me as to what a digital ID actually is. Many of us will have 'logins' to cover various HMG related activities/access including 'government gateway', and HMRC reporting/form filling activities. Similarly, many government/public sector organisations will have/hold data on UK individuals, very probably including: the NHS, HMRC, DWP, the Passport Office, DVLC, the Police, Local Authorities. In principle, some of these are already linked up (e.g. HMRC and DWP, Police and DVLC etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The 'terminology' is unclear to me as to what a digital ID actually is That is the trouble - it will be touted in a way that it is for our convenience - and it more than likely will be convenient. But what it will do is tie every bit of our life together. I have seen somewhere that Meta (Facebook) are already set up to deal with country Digital ID's so that will be all your data going back to them. So, when you say some words that someone takes offence to and reports you to Facebook it will be fed back to the central hive of the government and who knows - maybe your access to your Digital Currency (which will be hot on the heels of the ID) will then be curtailed by the Powers that Be. I have had GovGateway ID for years - in fact one of my mates was the Architect of the first GovGateway, I also had a GovGateway in a box for another government IT project I worked on, and I used to be able to phone a mate to reset my password on there (only needed that once though) Every journey begins with the first step but I have concerns about where this journey will take us, and it will be in a very short time. I believe that we don't have people that are making these decisions that have the nouse or if they do are willing to sell their soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Thinking on this, It may be likely that the numbers will be even further down than usual due to total indifference following the political gems of recent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 23/02/2023 at 09:16, JohnfromUK said: I'm afraid that will remain until someone finds a practical way of doing it - or restricts postal to (say) registered disabled - but that would leave out those away from home on holiday/business etc. Maybe you can do an 'on-line' remote vote with security checks in some way (like on-line banking, Gov't gateway, or other), but that would penalise those who aren't 'on-line'. All they need to do with postal votes is to say they have to be actually posted in. One or two forms per envelope maximum When the postal voting fraud was investigated in Tower Hamlets in 2014 the forms were handed in in bundles with elastic bands round them. Thousands of them. All filled in with the same pen in the same handwriting. All voting for Lutfur Rahman who actually won because of the postal vote. It still goes on, but they are more careful now It's standard labour tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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