armsid Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Can anyone remember The Prisoner with Patrick Mcgoohan as no.6?Cameras everywhere facial rec. to enter house cameras in every room cashless society every one happy in their ordered lives and no escape from The Village forced return back all run by a faceless group and no.6 stance i am a free man not a number i will not be indexed filed watched but he protested and won seem familiar to what is going on now and this was supposed to be fiction from 1968 Edited June 30, 2023 by armsid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Hm scary stuff, not being able to operate without a mobile phone, especially as your phone is listening........ ditch the phone and get out the cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 18 hours ago, discobob said: @7daysinaweek It is emperors new clothes - and will destroy the economy - mind you they want that to usher in UBI for everyone - along with the impact that AI will have. UBI will stand for ULTIMATELY BIGGER INFLUENCE when aligned with a CBDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 10:09, Kev1gun said: Lets all go back to bartering. The trouble with that is that you have to have items òr a product that that others want in enough quantity to survive. The idea works in a very basic principle but in reality you would never be able to convert your barterable products into something that others would want. On 30/06/2023 at 10:28, 12gauge82 said: No bank account in a digital currency country equals, no job, no benefits, no house, no food, no existence. Father used to say. "It’s a wicked world in which we live ". Sargent major Williams would say " oh dear, how sad, never mind". There are far too many people in the world and the personal vews of one ant won't alter the direction of the juggernaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 16:03, discobob said: And that there is a slippery slope buddy. No matter if you agree with what he has to say or done - he has not broken any laws and it should not be done to anybody leaving them without the means to survive. I have a friend who lost access to his account for months without a by your leave or any explanation..twice. Coming to us all soon as part of the subjugation package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 18:49, discobob said: @7daysinaweek It is emperors new clothes - and will destroy the economy - mind you they want that to usher in UBI for everyone - along with the impact that AI will have. And every company is being dragged into it. In my field, ESG is becoming King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 There are no banks so how are shops supposed to pay in their takings at the end of each day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 14:13, oowee said: @discobob🤣 You cant hold back progress. Even the chap that walked in front of the first cars with a red flag recognised his days were numbered. From what I can see Farage would be happy with any bank account at the moment 🤣 Lets hope the process kicks him out of the UK. You ve really missed the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 10:14, spanj said: You ve really missed the point Actually, as far as Owee is concerned he hasn't - I think Grant knows a lot more than he lets on due to his former "privilege" due to what he did...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 The Telegraph have the scoop today following a FOI request made of Coutts. It’s genuinely jaw dropping. All this nonsense they put out about his money / financial standing and account tolerances - a lie. They canned his account because his views didn’t align with theirs. Welcome to China / 1984. The whole article is worth a read and the Telegraph are running a low annual digital subscription cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 I am, what is described as, a Bitcoin Maximalist! From reading some of the comments in this thread there are plenty that share the same ideology, they just don’t understand why Bitcoin is so important to upholding it in a digital world. If you want your money to be separate from the state and governmental control, Bitcoin is your only bet. Here’s a good book if anyone is interested. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bitcoin-Standard-Decentralized-Alternative-Central/dp/1119473861 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 It was flagged up by NF as well (he done a video covering the SAR) about ESG's - These are basically Social Credit Scores (coming to all of us unless we start pushing back) for the corporate world. It doesn't matter how good a business you have - profitable etc...If you don't have a good ESG score you won't have access to funding if you need it. ESG's were brought in by BlackRock, one of the biggest funding sources in the world I believe and heavily in bed with WEF. These are the ones that will be coming for your property as well. KPMG are doing a big push in the UK on it - I have my first KPMG audit coming up in a few months - this is the third Audit I have participated in this year.... Look at Bud Light, Ben & Jerry's, Coutts, YBS. They jump onto the latest virtue signaling like anything - BLM, PRIDE, Racism, Menopause. We had an email about the latter in work along the lines of "Would you feel comfortable talking to a colleague about their Menopause" to which I thought I don't even feel comfortable talking to my wife about her menopause because she will rip my head off 😁. All these are done to increase their ESG score in the SOCIAL area. Closing of bank accounts will be another method they have of evidencing their "goodness" It will come where you will have to prove that you have a good ESG to be be able to provide services or supply to organisations so flooding into everywhere... And to support it they will be mining everything out there on the interweb and it will also come to everyone that banks will have your social credit score and if they don't like it will remove their services from you. Go to another bank you say?? They all use the same service.. NF also mentioned he had been contacted by a lot of people that have had their accounts removed, one being a window cleaner because they dealt in cash.. And there ended the sermon by BOB as my blood pressure is getting up - or am I just boiling in my own sweat........(and that is another discussion 😅) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Mungler said: The Telegraph have the scoop today following a FOI request made of Coutts. It’s genuinely jaw dropping. All this nonsense they put out about his money / financial standing and account tolerances - a lie. They canned his account because his views didn’t align with theirs. Welcome to China / 1984. The whole article is worth a read and the Telegraph are running a low annual digital subscription cost. Looks like they have done all of the reputational damage to themselves, fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Penelope said: Looks like they have done all of the reputational damage to themselves, fools. But it doesn't matter - their ESG score has gone up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, discobob said: But it doesn't matter - their ESG score has gone up..... Oh indeed. ESG is controlling everything in my field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Mungler said: The Telegraph have the scoop today following a FOI request made of Coutts. It’s genuinely jaw dropping. All this nonsense they put out about his money / financial standing and account tolerances - a lie. They canned his account because his views didn’t align with theirs. Welcome to China / 1984. The whole article is worth a read and the Telegraph are running a low annual digital subscription cost. What's worse is 99% of the population can't see what's coming and will walk idly into the tyranny ahead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, tweedledee said: 99% of the population can't see what's coming I work in Data - not this 'specific' area, but I know data - I have done it for 25 years - and I know what can be done. I get "conspiracy theorist" thrown at me a lot - "They won't do that...." and all the other bits - they believe the bits that go "but it will be so convenient for you - your life will become easier" - until they suddenly think "hang on - it is getting a bit hot in this pan" as they are being boiled alive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, discobob said: I work in Data - not this 'specific' area, but I know data - I have done it for 25 years - and I know what can be done. I get "conspiracy theorist" thrown at me a lot - "They won't do that...." and all the other bits - they believe the bits that go "but it will be so convenient for you - your life will become easier" - until they suddenly think "hang on - it is getting a bit hot in this pan" as they are being boiled alive.. Exactly..they step an inch at a time so the masses take it as normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 What a surprise, yet again another huge institution lies while Farage unapologetically speaks truth. It appears he maybe forcing change in the banking sector which if implamented, will protect everyone, regardless of any political divide. Love him or loath him, Farage is a slayer of giants, takes the fights no one else wants to and always seems to come up a winner. His policies aside, I admire his resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: What a surprise, yet again another huge institution lies while Farage unapologetically speaks truth. It appears he maybe forcing change in the banking sector which if implamented, will protect everyone, regardless of any political divide. Love him or loath him, Farage is a slayer of giants, takes the fights no one else wants to and always seems to come up a winner. His policies aside, I admire his resolve. Personally i feel he is a potentially great politician with a rare talent for being honest. I wish he would return to the game and make some much needed changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 04:13, zipdog said: I am, what is described as, a Bitcoin Maximalist! From reading some of the comments in this thread there are plenty that share the same ideology, they just don’t understand why Bitcoin is so important to upholding it in a digital world. If you want your money to be separate from the state and governmental control, Bitcoin is your only bet. Here’s a good book if anyone is interested. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bitcoin-Standard-Decentralized-Alternative-Central/dp/1119473861 You should read / listen to Dominic Frisby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Personally i feel he is a potentially great politician with a rare talent for being honest. I wish he would return to the game and make some much needed changes. Yes agreed, the problem is, anyone who is honest and in a right state of mind is going to want to willingly be a politician! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Personally i feel he is a potentially great politician with a rare talent for being honest. I wish he would return to the game and make some much needed changes. I’ll vote for him! Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 04:13, zipdog said: I am, what is described as, a Bitcoin Maximalist! From reading some of the comments in this thread there are plenty that share the same ideology, they just don’t understand why Bitcoin is so important to upholding it in a digital world. If you want your money to be separate from the state and governmental control, Bitcoin is your only bet. Here’s a good book if anyone is interested. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bitcoin-Standard-Decentralized-Alternative-Central/dp/1119473861 While for some who bought at the top in 2021 they are currently still underwater, however the majority of holders are in profit. Bitcoin & Traditional Assets ROI (vs USD) Bitcoin Gold S&P 500 1 year: +30% +16% +15% 2 year: -0.19% +10% +6% 3 year: +226% +9% +40% 4 year: +189% +39% +52% 5 year: +311% +61% +63% 6 year: +995% +58% +85% 7 year: +4,447% +50% +110% 8 year: +10,826% +81% +116% 9 year: +4,774% +52% +130% 10 year: +35,001% +50% +169% 11 year: +349,681% +25% +236% 12 year: +218,636% +24% +239% 13 year: +54 million% +67% +311% 14 year: +4.0 billion% +108% +372% https://casebitcoin.com Data Source: Messari.io, bitcoincharts.com What is it: This shows bitcoin's ROI vs other potential inflation hedge assets. Why it matters: As with the historical bitcoin price table, we see bitcoin's extreme outperformance vs other assets here as well. Bitcoin's relatively small size, plus fundamental properties, yield extreme outperformance when even relatively small funds-flows find their way to BTC. Data Source: Messari.io, bitcoincharts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Personally i feel he is a potentially great politician with a rare talent for being honest. I wish he would return to the game and make some much needed changes. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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