Two Tier Kier setting out the pain that is coming.......................

[Yellow Bear]

31 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Just blatant lies.

Like the vast majority of the "blurb" on "renewables"

[JohnfromUK]

48 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

But all of the radio adverts of people saying how great they are ......

To be fair, I found them quite good initially .......... then they had rapid expansion by taking on customers from other failed suppliers - and it all went downhill.

[old man]

23 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Just now Fossil Fuels 59% - Renewables 13%.  When is this most incompetent Govt going to wake up and smell the Coffee!!

Sadly never? They have no need!

[JohnfromUK]

On the same basic subject, those planning to meet "net zero" needs to look at their own carbon usage if they are serious.

Why do we need to fly 470 delegates a 5000 mile round trip to talk about reducing carbon usage?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091247/Keir-Starmer-Britain-delegates-climate-change-Baku.html

More typical two tier Kier Starmer;

• You must cut your carbon usage whilst I and my officials use more.
• You must pay higher taxes, whilst I and my officials take 'jollies' at the States expense

[amateur]

'Twas ever thus with the lefties.

Do as I say, never as I do

[ShootingEgg]

2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

On the same basic subject, those planning to meet "net zero" needs to look at their own carbon usage if they are serious.

Why do we need to fly 470 delegates a 5000 mile round trip to talk about reducing carbon usage?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091247/Keir-Starmer-Britain-delegates-climate-change-Baku.html

More typical two tier Kier Starmer;

• You must cut your carbon usage whilst I and my officials use more

Quite simply they people pushing this at the govt level do not care. Aslong as our sheet of paper shows we don't create emissions they are happy. If we close a coal fired station and one opens in say France, the problem has not gone it's just moved. The worlds emissions have not reduced. And we are all inside the same atmosphere.. but the response will be, it's not on our data for the UK so we don't care.

[old man]

3 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

On the same basic subject, those planning to meet "net zero" needs to look at their own carbon usage if they are serious.

Why do we need to fly 470 delegates a 5000 mile round trip to talk about reducing carbon usage?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091247/Keir-Starmer-Britain-delegates-climate-change-Baku.html

More typical two tier Kier Starmer;

• You must cut your carbon usage whilst I and my officials use more.
• You must pay higher taxes, whilst I and my officials take 'jollies' at the States expense

Simply because they are rear ends and absolutely don't have the brains to care?

Just politicians ways of living 5 star?

The prepared reply of course is that it's routine air scheduled flights?

Edited yesterday at 09:01 by old man

[johnphilip]

This picture of the world puts it All into perspective  our land mass  going net zero will have absolutely  no effect on the rest of the Globe. We are but a tiny island .

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Have just seen on Sky news  Labour are now scrapping the Bus Fare Scheme ???, Here in Town from 7 am till 9 ish  most busses are full with people getting to work in Oxford , From Shops to University  Surely this will affect hard working peoples finances again , Is there no end to Labour hitting again family budgets

[ShootingEgg]

3 hours ago, johnphilip said:

This picture of the world puts it All into perspective  our land mass  going net zero will have absolutely  no effect on the rest of the Globe. We are but a tiny island .

And because we are just moving it to another country. Going net Zero means another country produces what we don't. So the global emissions WONT CHANGE.  Just our govt preach utter rubbish about is being high and mighty

[mel b3]

3 hours ago, johnphilip said:

This picture of the world puts it All into perspective  our land mass  going net zero will have absolutely  no effect on the rest of the Globe. We are but a tiny island .

That pic really puts things into perspective mate 👍.

On the downside.  Thousands of green scammers( sorry , did i say that out loud), I mean hard working environmentalist , will lose their jobs , and what will the just stop oil protesters do ?. 

[JohnfromUK]

12 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

And because we are just moving it to another country. Going net Zero means another country produces what we don't. So the global emissions WONT CHANGE.

That's a bit above Milliband's level of understanding.

[ShootingEgg]

9 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

That's a bit above Milliband's level of understanding.

But unfortunately that sad reality...

Someone I know who attends meetings on these things challenged it and the reply was basically we don't care, it's not on our end of year sheet.

[JohnfromUK]

21 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

But unfortunately that sad reality...

Someone I know who attends meetings on these things challenged it and the reply was basically we don't care, it's not on our end of year sheet.

Milliband is making a huge personal contribution ........ to increasing global warming (in which he apparently believes) by clocking up 23,000 air miles since the election.  A fine example.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091405/Ed-Miliband-racks-stunning-23-000-air-miles-election.html

 

[7daysinaweek]

2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

Milliband is making a huge personal contribution ........ to increasing global warming (in which he apparently believes) by clocking up 23,000 air miles since the election.  A fine example.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091405/Ed-Miliband-racks-stunning-23-000-air-miles-election.html

 

I think John, I read something somewhere this type of behaviour was referred to as, 'carbon necessity'

I won't be getting rid of my deisel guzzler any time soon. 

 

[JohnfromUK]

28 minutes ago, 7daysinaweek said:

I won't be getting rid of my deisel guzzler any time soon. 

Indeed.  I will be keeping my (much hated by the green lobby) diesel SUV/4x4 for (I hope) many years to come.

[oowee]

People used to and i think some still do believe, the world to be flat. Despite the best science they saw with their own eyes that it was flat. Surely if it were round we would all fall off. We started the industrial revolution what better than to lead the world out of it. Of course its much easier cheaper and less of an affront to our lifestyles, to imagine that we know better than the scientists that study this stuff. 

Problem with human uncivilisation is it's always the fault of someone else.

[London Best]

45 minutes ago, oowee said:

People used to and i think some still do believe, the world to be flat. Despite the best science they saw with their own eyes that it was flat. Surely if it were round we would all fall off. We started the industrial revolution what better than to lead the world out of it. Of course its much easier cheaper and less of an affront to our lifestyles, to imagine that we know better than the scientists that study this stuff. 

Problem with human uncivilisation is it's always the fault of someone else.

And some people STILL believe in sky fairies!

[johnphilip]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

People used to and i think some still do believe, the world to be flat. Despite the best science they saw with their own eyes that it was flat. Surely if it were round we would all fall off. We started the industrial revolution what better than to lead the world out of it. Of course its much easier cheaper and less of an affront to our lifestyles, to imagine that we know better than the scientists that study this stuff. 

Problem with human uncivilisation is it's always the fault of someone else.

It's far worse your only seeing the half of it .

[johnphilip]

8 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

It's far worse your only seeing the half of it .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091247/Keir-Starmer-Britain-delegates-climate-change-Baku.html

[oowee]

16 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14091247/Keir-Starmer-Britain-delegates-climate-change-Baku.html

We want to lead the world in climate change tech and management. 

470 is delegates registered. The UK govt party is just 57. You would expect that if the UK believes it's at the forefront of change then we want to be winning business across the world. This will need people to do it. 

[7daysinaweek]

1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said:

Indeed.  I will be keeping my (much hated by the green lobby) diesel SUV/4x4 for (I hope) many years to come.

Good man! 👍

[Scully]

I think Friends of the Earth or one of those such organisations claims the carbon footprint of all global air traffic is only matched by that of global internet use, both of which will only increase rather than decline. Way to go!  🙂

[ShootingEgg]

2 hours ago, oowee said:

lead the world out of it.

You been smoking again..

If we don't create it... we buy it from elsewhere  and elsewhere are still using gas oil and coal!!! 

[oowee]

53 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

You been smoking again..

If we don't create it... we buy it from elsewhere  and elsewhere are still using gas oil and coal!!! 

Just be patient these things take time. Chill.