Starmer and grooming gangs

[ShootingEgg]

3 minutes ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

Race, colour and creed should have NOTHING to do with this. Grooming gang or pedophile ring, same thing NO MATTER what you look like. 

 

[johnphilip]

4 minutes ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

And yet the government. On both sides of the House do not want to do anything about. It .

[Penelope]

2 minutes ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

That's a well know fact but NOT the point.

The point here is the appeasement and covering up so as not to point a finger at a certain protected community in the name of a politcal idealogy.

Surely you understand that, no; or are you just being your usual self??

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I don't care what colour any of them are, they ALL should be investigated, tried and imprisoned if found guilty.

 

After all, that is the LAW and why it has been usurped is beyond me.

[clangerman]

3 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

And yet the government. On both sides of the House do not want to do anything about. It .

you nailed it thanks to our lovely government the child is obliged to house monsters my point is rarely do I see the name Abdul amongst the vile things 

[Newbie to this]

24 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

No at the stand, but I did not question that. What she has stood up and said is that she did work with and support people who had been effected by this.

What ever has happened in the past it's not good enough. Ignoring it now and pushing it to one side is even worse.

And yet when Kemi was is a position to do something, that something was lacking......

Today's 'outrage', is just political bluster.

[old man]

28 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

Race, colour and creed should have NOTHING to do with this. Grooming gang or pedophile ring, same thing NO MATTER what you look like. 

 

Yep, I don't give a rats rear what ethnicity or gender they are either. All need putting before the sad excuse for a justice system we have now?

[welsh1]

39 minutes ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

While all sexual offences against anyone and especially children are abhorrant , when you break down the statistics per head of population by ethnicity certain groups have a far higher rate.

What is appaling is it's become apparant that government don't want an enquiry because they will be exposed for trying to keep a lid on the disgusting actions done by many, it appears to protect their voting base and appease communities who historically vote for them, anyone who has helped suppress or ignore these vile acts deserves to be jailed.

[Dave-G]

12 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

While all sexual offences against anyone and especially children are abhorrent , when you break down the statistics per head of population by ethnicity certain groups have a far higher rate.

What is appalling is it's become apparent that government don't want an enquiry because they will be exposed for trying to keep a lid on the disgusting actions done by many, it appears to protect their voting base and appease communities who historically vote for them, anyone who has helped suppress or ignore these vile acts deserves to be jailed.

Well said, my thoughts as well but I'd not have been able to word it so well.

[johnphilip]

28 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

Well said, my thoughts as well but I'd not have been able to word it so well.

Just by contributing,  to the posts shows you care so much like the rest. Of us .........respect to you .

[serrac]

1 hour ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

As Ben Habib pointed out when debating a clueless labour woman MP on GB News, when discussing GANG RAPES, the perpetrators are 85% Pakistani and Eritrean males.

Neither "grooming gangs"  and "pedophile rings" are a correct descriptor for what we are discussing here.
The proper term is "rape jihad gangs"

Other cultures have more experience of the phenomena and have no problem calling a spade a spade.
https://hindupost.in/tag/rape-jihad

Edited January 9 by serrac

[Penelope]

57 minutes ago, serrac said:

As Ben Habib pointed out when debating a clueless labour woman MP on GB News, when discussing GANG RAPES, the perpetrators are 85% Pakistani and Eritrean males.

Neither "grooming gangs"  and "pedophile rings" are a correct descriptor for what we are discussing here.
The proper term is "rape jihad gangs"

Other cultures have more experience of the phenomena and have no problem calling a spade a spade.
https://hindupost.in/tag/rape-jihad

That Scarlett is a full on Liebour shill.

[Mungler]

2 hours ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

 

And you are part of the problem.

Factually and statistically so very incorrect, I don't even know where to start. I shan't bother because you have already exposed yourself as more than a little odd and a troll.

[Flashman]

The Telegraph should remove the paywall for the next two articles I'm about to cut & paste:

• Michael Deacon

What the Left says about the grooming gangs – and what it really means

Their arguments are nakedly dishonest, cowardly, or hypocritical – this is how to cut through to the truth

You can almost smell the panic. Every Left-wing activist and pundit is frantically trying to defend Labour’s refusal to hold a full national inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal.

The trouble is, their arguments are nakedly dishonest, cowardly, or hypocritical. Here’s a handy guide to what the Left say about grooming gangs – and what they really mean…

What the Left say: “Elon Musk shouldn’t be interfering in British politics.”

What they mean: “It was much easier to sweep uncomfortable facts under the carpet before he barged in.”

What the Left say: “Musk is a hateful demagogue who is poisoning our discourse.”

What they mean: “It may seem as if we’re angrier about Musk’s tweets than we are about child abuse. But we aren’t really angry about his tweets. We’re just using them to change the narrative from ‘Pakistani men raping white children’ to ‘social media row’.”

What the Left say: “The Right must stop smearing innocent MPs as paedophile apologists.”

What they mean: “Obviously it was different when Labour ran an ad in 2023 which read, ‘Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? RISHI SUNAK DOESN’T.’”

What the Left say: “It’s disgusting to see this issue being cynically weaponised for political gain.”

What they mean: “People should reserve their fury for real scandals, like the colour of Boris Johnson’s wallpaper, or Dominic Raab throwing a tomato into a bag.”

What the Left say: “Focusing on the gangs’ ethnicity is Islamophobic.”

What they mean: “Please ignore the fact that this is exactly the attitude which enabled this scandal to happen in the first place.”

What the Left say: “Actually there’s already been a national inquiry, which concluded in 2022.”

What they mean: “Please don’t read that inquiry’s final report, or you’ll notice that it wasn’t specifically dedicated to these particular gangs. In 459 pages it mentions Rotherham only once (and Telford not at all).”

What the Left say: “Tories are suddenly calling for a full national inquiry, yet they never held one when they were in power.”

What they mean: “Our opponents did nothing, so it’s fine for us to do nothing, too. As the old saying goes: ‘Better never than late.’”

What the Left say: “Now is the time for action, not more words.”

What they mean: “Especially not words like ‘Why is Labour so desperate to stop this being properly investigated?’ and ‘None of this would have happened if people hadn’t been scared into silence by the culture of political correctness the Left have enforced for the past 30 years.”

What the Left say: “An inquiry is unnecessary. The gangs have already been jailed.”

What they mean: “Of course, there have never been even the mildest consequences for anyone in authority who turned a blind eye. But for some reason we’d rather not look into that.”

What the Left say: “Anyone demanding a full inquiry is just jumping on a Right-wing bandwagon.”

What they mean: “Hang on. This implies that only Right-wing people are angry about the mass rape of British children – while Left-wing people like us aren’t bothered. Oh God, we really haven’t thought this through, have we?”

 

 

 

[Dougy]

7 in prison amounting to 51 years in total involved in grooming, rape and child abuse from my town. 

None were white British 2 of these none British were from Liverpool. 

[Flashman]

The Telegraph should remove the paywall for the next two articles I'm about to cut & paste.  This is tough reading and only reinforces my shame for this country:

Allison Pearson

Elon Musk has ripped the cloak of deceit off one of Britain’s most disgusting scandals

Starmer’s denunciation of Musk for ‘spreading lies and misinformation’ about Muslim child-rape gangs is an orchestra of discordant duplicity

Once upon a time there was a good and fair country and people who lived in countries that were neither good nor fair travelled to that land and made it their home because they knew it to be kind. But some men who made that land their home brought the values of countries that were neither kind nor fair with them. Such men hated the female children they found in the good and fair country. The girls were white but not chaste; they were dirty unbelievers who went about unaccompanied as if they were boys. They disgusted the men, and they tempted them, which made them hate the female children even more. The monsters, for that is what the men became over time, caused savage harm to thousands of girls – so many that no one is yet sure of the number and may never be, for some were lost or killed. And the monsters drugged and bribed them, they made them sex slaves, branding the girls’ flesh with their initials, ramming large implements into their tiny bodies the better to accommodate four men. 

This may be hard to comprehend, dear reader, but the people of that enlightened land did not protect their daughters. I’m sorry to say they abandoned them to their fate. Police, whose duty it was to look after the most vulnerable, either arrested the girls, dismissed their pleas for help or left them with their tormentors. For that famously kind and decent land had fallen under a strange enchantment, which was called multiculturalism. It said that, no matter how wicked or cruel the men were to the children, you must never speak of it. The dark spell, and what a powerful spell it was (enough to vanquish justice and compassion), caused any who dared to say that Pakistani Muslim men were targeting white girls to become the bad people. Because all cultures are equal, you see, even ones that don’t believe in equality or which agree that girls who aren’t virgins are whores and deserve to be punished.

And those who struggled against the powerful spell that stifled their countrymen were called racist. And to be racist or bigoted or “far-Right” was to be far more hateful than any hatred inflicted on female children, or so the people of the good and fair country were told by their leaders.

And when the monsters swore at the children whom they were raping, saying, “White slag!” “White c—!” – well, that wasn’t at all racist. Because multiculturalism and the BBC say it cannot be so.

A few brave women (Julie, Ann, Maggie, Sarah) who woke from the enchantment and warned young girls were in danger from British Pakistani men were banished and forced to apologise for being “reckless in my choice of words”. Or they lost their seat in the shadow Cabinet.

And the evil – a vast, suppurating evil such as the land had not known for a thousand years – continued to blight that good and fair country. The authorities colluded to make sure the hatred must never speak its name, and the girls carried their lonely torment within them and their rapists got access to the babies they had impregnated them with. (Oh, yes, they did. So strong was the multicultural enchantment it made people surrender the values they had been born to.)

And the monsters were not banished from the good and fair country, not one of them sent back to countries that were neither good nor fair, in case their human rights were breached.

Then, one day, the richest man in the whole wide world came along and broke the dark spell. Elon had read court transcripts telling what those monsters had done to the female children, and he could not believe such unfathomable depravity had taken root in the good and fair country. Because of his great wealth, Elon could not be intimidated into agreeing that thousands of white girls should have been used as a peace offering to placate the gods of multiculturalism. His righteous wrath shamed the cowardly leaders of the land and in their panic they cried “Misinformation!” But the people were having none of it. For they were awake now and they saw what horrors the brutes had been allowed to get away with. As the wicked enchantment lifted, the malevolent myth of multiculturalism was unmasked, the country slowly but surely recovered its senses and demanded the guilty be found and punished, even unto the highest in the land.

As this is a fairytale, I guess it would be nice to say that they all lived happily ever after. Yet, even after it was agreed all the monsters would be deported to great national rejoicing, there was a terrible stain on the good and fair country’s history that would never quite be expunged. It stood shamed before the civilized world. And in the national memory, lodged forever it seemed, were the anguished, tortured, frightened cries of those who were allowed to suffer and die to avoid stirring up racial hatred.

The girls. The girls. The girls.  

‘Shame and devastating sadness’

Sir Keir Starmer has no idea what he’s up against. Not this time. Since he entered Downing Street six intolerable months ago, the Prime Minister’s ability to strike exactly the wrong note on any given occasion has never failed him, but his denunciation of Elon Musk for “spreading lies and misinformation” about Pakistani-heritage Muslim child-rape gangs is a whole orchestra of discordant deceit. Many Britons feel deeply grateful that the billionaire owner of X (formerly Twitter) was moved to intervene in this disgusting scandal, I suspect, and Musk has certainly provoked more soul-searching in 10 days than Westminster managed in 10 years. The Prime Minister’s imputation that those who want a full-throated national inquiry into the evil gangs, and the cowardly state apparatchiks who covered them up, were simply seeking to “jump on a bandwagon of the far-Right” is obscene. Apparently, thousands of survivors who endured mass rape as children (20 men awaiting their turn downstairs, one woman recalled) are far-Right for wanting answers and accountability. Is it far-Right, Prime Minister, to object that your primary torturer was released early after a derisory sentence and now lurks menacingly outside your home?

That’s what has happened to Liz, who still lives in Rotherham. Liz tells me she wants a “collective inquiry to show the depth of what’s happened and to go after those who failed us”. Like other victims of Pakistani rape gangs, Liz is disgusted with the strange, soulless man who had the chance at his Monday press conference to speak for the whole nation. He could have expressed the shame and devastating sadness we feel that such bestial crimes should have been committed here, and for so long. Instead, Sir Keir spoke out of narrow party self-interest, only sounding vaguely passionate when addressing what really troubles him: Islamophobia.

Exactly as he did back in July after the massacre of children in Southport. Berated by a crowd of locals whom he refused to speak to after hastily laying a wreath, Starmer couldn’t wait to dash to a mosque where he vowed to “take every step possible” to keep the Muslim community safe. That meant creating a new violent disorder unit to deal with all the “far-Right thugs” who, for some reason, objected to three little girls at a Taylor Swift dance class being slaughtered. Can’t think why.

People on social media who, in the heat of the moment, posted deeply unsavoury, inflammatory reactions or retweeted “conspiracy theories” were arrested and jailed with an alacrity and force that was entirely absent when it came to catching the foul fiends who committed some of the most despicable crimes imaginable. (One police officer explained to a distraught father that his daughter being raped might actually “teach her a lesson”.)

In both cases, we see the same sly, leftie-liberal playbook. Minimise the rape/killing/trafficking of young girls. Call it “grooming” and not what it is: raping children. Refuse to disclose the ethnic identity of the perpetrators to prevent “racism”. Accuse anyone who mentions the religion or ethnicity of the perpetrators of bigotry and “dog-whistle” politics. Under pressure, admit that the perpetrators are “Asians” (to the understandable anger of Sikhs, Hindus and Christians). Deflect attention from the sheer stomach-churning horror of the crimes and the wild, unappeasable sorrow of the victims and switch the focus to the “inappropriate” language or “harmful rhetoric” of people who are prepared to call out the most depraved assaults and most shocking cover-up in British history.

Sir Keir genuinely seems more outraged about Elon Musk calling safeguarding minister Jess Phillips a “genocidal rape apologist” for her refusal to authorise a national inquiry into the Oldham scandal (she insists the council can have its own inquiry) than he is about the 12-year-old who was driven at night to a Yorkshire wood where she was forced to give oral sex to at least 10 men (more cars kept arriving as word spread) before being left alone in the dark.  

If a prime minister can’t empathise, just for a few seconds, with the terror that child experienced then he shouldn’t be leading the country. But Starmer was clearly far more at ease saying he was “very shocked and angered” at the killing of George Floyd, a black American for whom he fell to one knee. As I have learnt since Essex police called on me over an alleged hate crime, British institutions, from Parliament to the police, are obsessed with “protected characteristics” enshrined in the Equality Act. In 2013, if you were a white working-class kid in care in Keighley, who was passed around from uncle to cousin to nephew, forget it. No characteristics worth protecting, love. In fact, in the unlikely event that poor child had ever plucked up courage to go to the council or the police, her complaint would have been viewed as unhelpful to the greater goal of anti-racism and diversity. Had the ethnic profiles been reversed – the child was black or Muslim and the ******** who pimped her out white – you can bet we would never have heard the end of it. The British Establishment had something in common with the rapists: they saw the girls as white trash.  

Viewing everything through the prism of race is a disease of the elite liberal and bureaucratic class, not just here but throughout a self-loathing Western world which sees merit in every culture but its own. In a response on X to Musk and the rape-gangs scandal, the historian and Times columnist Sathnam Sanghera posted: “Of course, the vivid fear of ‘innocent white women’ being violated by brown men was one of the great drivers of British imperial racism.” Does Sanghera actually think thousands of brutalised white girls in up to 50 British towns and villages from Rochdale to Oxford made up their ordeals in order to cast racist aspersions on innocent brown men?  He quickly deleted his tweet after it caused outrage, so maybe it was just fashionable posturing, but revealing for all that. Holding the opinion that non-white people are somehow always victims is a sign of social superiority, marking one out from ghastly fascist proles like Tommy Robinson. Whatever Robinson’s manifold flaws, he inspires huge loyalty among his supporters because he has fought like a lion for girls from his social class. Girls who former Labour home secretary Jack Straw admitted were regarded as “easy meat” by some of his Pakistani constituents.

Thanks to all the big-hearted, bien-pensant apologists for child rapists – including Labour politicians increasingly dependent on the Muslim vote–- our international reputation is in the gutter. In the US, The Free Press ran a major article this week headlined: “The Biggest Peacetime Crime – and Cover-up – in British History”. How did our society sink to these depths of depravity? It is clear that every tier of the system is implicated in the whitewash.

Lucy Allan, who was the Conservative MP for Telford from  2015-2024, explained to me how even those who do try to fight for the victims are thwarted and obstructed. After she’d met survivors in her Shropshire town, Allan started speaking out in Parliament. The pushback was intense. “There was a co-ordinated official response by people in positions of power. Shaun Davies, Telford Council Leader (now the town’s Labour MP), immediately published a letter to the Home Secretary stating that no inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) was necessary. He backed up his assertion with claims that we now know were false. Multiple senior men were asked to be co-signatories to his claims and they all readily agreed.” Instead of trying to right heinous wrongs, Telford councillors set about discrediting the messengers. Lucy Allan was accused of “lying, causing division, racism, being unbalanced, irrational, stupid and motivated not by a desire to help victims but to score political points. This narrative was relentlessly pushed for as long as I campaigned on the issue. It had the intended effect of ensuring that the voice I sought to be for victims would not be heard.”

Most extraordinary was an unexpected visit the MP received from Anthony Bangham, then the Chief Constable of West Mercia, and John Campion, the Police and Crime Commissioner. “The Chief Constable was disparaging about Rotherham MP Sarah Champion, suggesting she was exaggerating the grooming gangs issue and was discredited,” Lucy recalls. “He said: ‘You wouldn’t want to be known as a troublemaker like Sarah Champion. It will harm your reputation and career.’” Since when is it the role of a chief constable to warn a democratically-elected MP not to campaign for her traumatised constituents?

Even Allan’s Conservative colleagues could be disapproving. “The newly-minted Junior Minister for Safeguarding, Vicky Atkins, told me not to speak to the media on the subject as ‘you do not understand the issues’. I was summoned by Conservative Peer Baroness Warsi to explain myself.”

Lucy Allan came up against the oft-repeated refrain that, as 90 per cent of child abuse is committed by white men in domestic settings, why didn’t she concern herself with that as it was a more significant problem? She saw this as “a blatant denial of the existence of groups of inter-related men of Pakistani heritage preying on young girls at school gates, in takeaways, taxis and playgrounds. They did not want to know.” 

Victims were often blamed, she says, with one young girl being described by police as “‘having been in contact with 53 different Asian males’ as if it were by choice! There was complete denial that these men were related to each other through cousin marriage and were engaged in a joint enterprise.” 

Now that she has lost her seat, Allan is free to deliver a brutally honest verdict. “The people in power believed that being honest about what had happened to the girls would fuel racial tensions. They pushed a narrative that hiding the problem was in the interests of the community, that looking the other way would cement social cohesion and protect society.” That line, Lucy now knows for a fact, was pushed by Home Office officials. She has watched as junior ministers, both Conservative and Labour, have spun the same lines, “almost word for word, clearly at the behest of civil servants”.

That “denial strategy” may once have been well-intentioned (a noble lie), but those who enforced it – from the House of Commons to the police stations to the BBC – became the enemies of justice, the willing accomplices of the Devil. The social contract between the state and the individual is in tatters. They lied to us, and the public knows they lied.

What now? The Government tells us there is no need for another national inquiry, instead they will implement the recommendations of the 2022 Jay report on child sexual abuse (CSA).  But CSA is not the same as Group Localised Child Sexual Exploitation (GLCSE), which describes the horrendous and co-ordinated abuse by primarily Pakistani-heritage Muslim rape gangs in towns like Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, places the 2022 inquiry didn’t even take into account. This is not about mainly white paedophiles, bad though they are. And it certainly can’t be left, as Jess Phillips suggests, to councils like Oldham to investigate themselves when many councillors are drawn from the same intensely tribal community as the offenders.

‘The failed model of multiculturalism must be opened up to scrutiny’

We must do what the girls want. They went unheard for so long. And if they want a national inquiry into the British Pakistani child-rape gangs –  call them what they are, no obfuscation, no denial, no soothing words – then they must have it. Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has rightly said that she will try to insert a clause pledging such an inquiry into the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill on Wednesday – let’s see which MP is foolish enough not to support it. The failed model of multiculturalism must be opened up to scrutiny and a furious public will be entitled to hear why, if it was such a brilliant idea, it could only be maintained via orchestrated deception by the media, the police and most of the political class. All of the rapists who hold dual nationality must be deported. Millions of us would vote for that, wouldn’t we?

Thanks to Elon Musk the multiculturalism cloak of denial and deceit has been ripped off and the left are suddenly revealed to have no clothes. On the Today programme yesterday, Nick Robinson tried to demolish Robert Jenrick with talk of harmful “rhetoric” and accusations that Jenrick was seeking to limit immigration to the UK from what he called “alien cultures”. So what? Insulting and betraying the interests of the white majority doesn’t work any more, Nick. The shadow justice secretary stood his ground. In his calm, unrattled confidence, you detected that he knew now that he was talking for Britain and would not be afraid to do so. “We have seen millions of people enter the UK in recent years and some of them have backward, frankly medieval attitudes to women”. 

You know, as the debate over Musk’s “interference” rages and Labour sees the edifice of diversity politics crashing around their ears, and Starmer looks more inhuman by the day, it’s easy to forget what this is about. Why it matters so very much. Over the weekend, I made myself read the sentencing remarks of His Honour Judge Peter Rook after the trial of Akhtar Dogar, Anjum Dogar, Kamar Jamil, Mohammed Karrar and Basam Karrar. My God. In paragraph after paragraph, the judge outlines what those Pakistani-heritage brutes did to their victims. Less like sexual abuse than the kind of atrocities you encounter only in wartime. “Years of sheer torture .. great brutality..  robbed of their adolescence… torment and distress.. apart from using her for your own sexual gratification you coerced her into providing sex to vast numbers of strangers. Up to four or five men would be invited to addresses so they could have sex with her. Customers would become angry. Strangers would burn her with cigarettes. Slapped. She said the men had a ‘pack mentality’. Grabbing her by the ponytail and forcing her head down onto his penis. Drink and drugs to make them more malleable. One inserted a hairbrush into her vagina. She suffers from self-loathing. Nightmares, panic attacks, flashbacks, PTSD. Despite being the victim she carries with her a great burden of shame and embarrassment… one of vaginal rape, one of oral rape, one of arranging child prostitution, wilful blindness by the authorities, wicked plan to punish her for lying that she had her period, one of vaginal rape, one of oral rape, rape, rape, rape.”

It’s not bearable to read about as an adult, so imagine what it must have felt like to live through it if you were 13 years old. My heart broke when I came to this part: “Her mother describes how by the time you had finished with her there was not much left of her apart from her aggression. You took her soul. She felt as though it had been ripped out.”

We are so sorry that happened to you, sweet girl, whoever you are. And we will not rest until those responsible are brought to account. Until you have compensation. We will not allow men who hate white women and girls, who think we are lower than cattle, to breathe the same air as us. We owe you that much.

 

[Penelope]

6 minutes ago, Flashman said:

The Telegraph should remove the paywall for the next two articles I'm about to cut & paste:

• Michael Deacon

What the Left says about the grooming gangs – and what it really means

Their arguments are nakedly dishonest, cowardly, or hypocritical – this is how to cut through to the truth

You can almost smell the panic. Every Left-wing activist and pundit is frantically trying to defend Labour’s refusal to hold a full national inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal.

The trouble is, their arguments are nakedly dishonest, cowardly, or hypocritical. Here’s a handy guide to what the Left say about grooming gangs – and what they really mean…

What the Left say: “Elon Musk shouldn’t be interfering in British politics.”

What they mean: “It was much easier to sweep uncomfortable facts under the carpet before he barged in.”

What the Left say: “Musk is a hateful demagogue who is poisoning our discourse.”

What they mean: “It may seem as if we’re angrier about Musk’s tweets than we are about child abuse. But we aren’t really angry about his tweets. We’re just using them to change the narrative from ‘Pakistani men raping white children’ to ‘social media row’.”

What the Left say: “The Right must stop smearing innocent MPs as paedophile apologists.”

What they mean: “Obviously it was different when Labour ran an ad in 2023 which read, ‘Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? RISHI SUNAK DOESN’T.’”

What the Left say: “It’s disgusting to see this issue being cynically weaponised for political gain.”

What they mean: “People should reserve their fury for real scandals, like the colour of Boris Johnson’s wallpaper, or Dominic Raab throwing a tomato into a bag.”

What the Left say: “Focusing on the gangs’ ethnicity is Islamophobic.”

What they mean: “Please ignore the fact that this is exactly the attitude which enabled this scandal to happen in the first place.”

What the Left say: “Actually there’s already been a national inquiry, which concluded in 2022.”

What they mean: “Please don’t read that inquiry’s final report, or you’ll notice that it wasn’t specifically dedicated to these particular gangs. In 459 pages it mentions Rotherham only once (and Telford not at all).”

What the Left say: “Tories are suddenly calling for a full national inquiry, yet they never held one when they were in power.”

What they mean: “Our opponents did nothing, so it’s fine for us to do nothing, too. As the old saying goes: ‘Better never than late.’”

What the Left say: “Now is the time for action, not more words.”

What they mean: “Especially not words like ‘Why is Labour so desperate to stop this being properly investigated?’ and ‘None of this would have happened if people hadn’t been scared into silence by the culture of political correctness the Left have enforced for the past 30 years.”

What the Left say: “An inquiry is unnecessary. The gangs have already been jailed.”

What they mean: “Of course, there have never been even the mildest consequences for anyone in authority who turned a blind eye. But for some reason we’d rather not look into that.”

What the Left say: “Anyone demanding a full inquiry is just jumping on a Right-wing bandwagon.”

What they mean: “Hang on. This implies that only Right-wing people are angry about the mass rape of British children – while Left-wing people like us aren’t bothered. Oh God, we really haven’t thought this through, have we?”

 

 

 

👍

[clangerman]

4 minutes ago, Mungler said:

 

And you are part of the problem.

Factually and statistically so very incorrect, I don't even know where to start. I shan't bother because you have already exposed yourself as more than a little odd and a troll.

as you don’t have a question in your needless insults I will leave it with this my daughter interviews some extremely depraved individuals on a daily basis so I’m aware of both the real picture of who offends and true figures which you won’t find anywhere but the horses mouth 

[Flashman]

3 hours ago, clangerman said:

we always had grooming gangs it’s just a name change from pedophile ring to suit the demonise migrants agenda while ignoring the fact majority of sex offenders are surprise surprise white! 

From today’s Telegraph:

What the Left say: “Focusing on the gangs’ ethnicity is Islamophobic.”

What they mean: “Please ignore the fact that this is exactly the attitude which enabled this scandal to happen in the first place.”

 

[Raja Clavata]

There is an institutionalised culture of cover ups when it comes to sex crime in this country.

I don’t know how this all gets addressed but I do know it won’t be by politicising it.

[Rewulf]

12 minutes ago, clangerman said:

as you don’t have a question in your needless insults I will leave it with this my daughter interviews some extremely depraved individuals on a daily basis so I’m aware of both the real picture of who offends and true figures which you won’t find anywhere but the horses mouth 

I dont normally talk about this, but on this occasion Ill tell a little story about my daughter.

3 years ago my daughter (19 then) went out on a night in Nottingham, I would describe her as a 'bit woke' at the time. both my daughters were, a product of the lefty university system.
She got a little drunk, as kids do, lost her phone, and decided rather stupidly, to walk the 2 miles home at 2am.

A group of men, seeing her state started following her, trying to touch her and coerce her into coming back with them, the men she described as Asian, and spoke in a language she couldnt place, at one point she recognised the danger she was in and ran.
They ran after her, and now terrified she hid in someones garden until they gave up.
After a while she emerged, quite sober now, and saw they were still lurking around, she flagged down a cab, jumped into the front passenger seat and explained to the Asian driver that she was being followed and to take her home.
Within 30 seconds he was groping her, she fought back and he slowed down enough for her to jump out, and ran the rest of the way home, terrified.
The doorbell footage of her trying to get her key in the door, looking behind her absolutely terrified, believing that she was still being hunted, haunts me to this day.

She had a lucky escape, and learned a hard lesson.
I learned that, as a father I couldnt protect my daughter 100 % of the time, no one can.
But there are threats out there, and believing that everyone behaves the same way, or has the same values, is an utter fallacy.
The police were worse than useless, the advice amounted to dont go out, dont get drunk, theres no evidence....

On the plus side, shes a lot less woke, a lot less trusting, but is this the society we have created, where women and girls have to be on high alert all the time for SA ?

 

 

[Dave-G]

I think the headlines should read "Kuffar rape gangs"

Because its honourable for a certain religion to rape non believer women.

Kuffars are non believers of their religion

Edited January 9 by Dave-G

[Flashman]

18 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

I dont normally talk about this, but on this occasion Ill tell a little story about my daughter.

3 years ago my daughter (19 then) went out on a night in Nottingham, I would describe her as a 'bit woke' at the time. both my daughters were, a product of the lefty university system.
She got a little drunk, as kids do, lost her phone, and decided rather stupidly, to walk the 2 miles home at 2am.

A group of men, seeing her state started following her, trying to touch her and coerce her into coming back with them, the men she described as Asian, and spoke in a language she couldnt place, at one point she recognised the danger she was in and ran.
They ran after her, and now terrified she hid in someones garden until they gave up.
After a while she emerged, quite sober now, and saw they were still lurking around, she flagged down a cab, jumped into the front passenger seat and explained to the Asian driver that she was being followed and to take her home.
Within 30 seconds he was groping her, she fought back and he slowed down enough for her to jump out, and ran the rest of the way home, terrified.
The doorbell footage of her trying to get her key in the door, looking behind her absolutely terrified, believing that she was still being hunted, haunts me to this day.

She had a lucky escape, and learned a hard lesson.
I learned that, as a father I couldnt protect my daughter 100 % of the time, no one can.
But there are threats out there, and believing that everyone behaves the same way, or has the same values, is an utter fallacy.
The police were worse than useless, the advice amounted to dont go out, dont get drunk, theres no evidence....

On the plus side, shes a lot less woke, a lot less trusting, but is this the society we have created, where women and girls have to be on high alert all the time for SA ?

 

 

Aside from the trauma, it demonstrates that the police are simply there to attend and issue a crime reference number. They don’t even pretend to deter, investigate or arrest any more. There’s any number of press reports about rising crime - from stolen bikes, nicked cars, and burglary all the way through to assaults. 

I worry that we’re going to descend into vigilantism. 

[Rewulf]

11 minutes ago, Flashman said:

I worry that we’re going to descend into vigilantism. 

Why do you think they were handing out such heavy sentences for inflammatory social media posts ?

When the law can no longer protect you from crime, there arent many other options...

Not that I would condone such behaviour of course, yet certain minorities have been practicing vigilantism for decades, but as usual , it gets brushed under the carpet.

[serrac]

1 hour ago, clangerman said:

as you don’t have a question in your needless insults I will leave it with this my daughter interviews some extremely depraved individuals on a daily basis so I’m aware of both the real picture of who offends and true figures which you won’t find anywhere but the horses mouth 

OK, let's hear your take on the real picture and true figures - bring your receipts.