Rewulf Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, serrac said: OK, let's hear your take on the real picture and true figures - bring your receipts. Im pretty sure they just published official figures on the NATIONALITY per capita of prosecutions, quite sobering reading really. They wont publish the figures for ethnicity so much, as that would be err, racist. As I remember, Albanians were comfortably at the top, and white English were at the bottom as least likely to be prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 @clangerman abuse within family follows the ethnic division percentages within the country whereas grooming gangs are 85% followers of a certain Abrahamic religion that isn’t Christian or Jewish - definitely not following the ethnic division P.S. If your daughter is sharing stuff with you, she shouldn’t be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 31 minutes ago, discobob said: @clangerman P.S. If your daughter is sharing stuff with you, she shouldn’t be. absolutely correct but when police arrest a sex offender with a hammer following your daughter home from work she needs someone trusted to cope with the trauma of dealing with sick monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, serrac said: OK, let's hear your take on the real picture and true figures - bring your receipts. That made me chuckle. The offender figures and data sets are all out there (as too prisoner offender data) and when considered pro-rata, having been taken from a small sub-set of total population, well .... and as growing data fiends we can then also get back into a discussion about targeted stop and search being the only real preventative measure in combating knife crime. The stats tell the story. I was going to grab them off the intraweb for Clangerman, but just assumed he was trolling for attention as per. I would add that whilst the stats are both telling and frightening, they are but a glimpse and are not a full account if you factor in an institutional lack of police interest / general detection and prosecution rates for certain protected groups, tipping off perpetrators and of course the affected group, who being white and poor and at the bottom of current societal hierarchy, just wouldn't have bothered to report a sex crime already knowing that they (and their families) would be put at further risk for a report to the police that would ultimately go nowhere. The instances and examples are now bubbling to the surface; the father and son who got arrested for trying to recover a minor from a rape gang is prominent but the other I heard yesterday was the 12 year old being sexually assaulted in a car outside police station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockybasher Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: I dont normally talk about this, but on this occasion Ill tell a little story about my daughter. 3 years ago my daughter (19 then) went out on a night in Nottingham, I would describe her as a 'bit woke' at the time. both my daughters were, a product of the lefty university system. She got a little drunk, as kids do, lost her phone, and decided rather stupidly, to walk the 2 miles home at 2am. A group of men, seeing her state started following her, trying to touch her and coerce her into coming back with them, the men she described as Asian, and spoke in a language she couldnt place, at one point she recognised the danger she was in and ran. They ran after her, and now terrified she hid in someones garden until they gave up. After a while she emerged, quite sober now, and saw they were still lurking around, she flagged down a cab, jumped into the front passenger seat and explained to the Asian driver that she was being followed and to take her home. Within 30 seconds he was groping her, she fought back and he slowed down enough for her to jump out, and ran the rest of the way home, terrified. The doorbell footage of her trying to get her key in the door, looking behind her absolutely terrified, believing that she was still being hunted, haunts me to this day. She had a lucky escape, and learned a hard lesson. I learned that, as a father I couldnt protect my daughter 100 % of the time, no one can. But there are threats out there, and believing that everyone behaves the same way, or has the same values, is an utter fallacy. The police were worse than useless, the advice amounted to dont go out, dont get drunk, theres no evidence.... On the plus side, shes a lot less woke, a lot less trusting, but is this the society we have created, where women and girls have to be on high alert all the time for SA ? Thank you for sharing this with us. You, and she!, have been thru an awful experience and hopefully you, she and her friends will get over it, but are now very beware of the trash walking our evening routes. If we were in USA, I would suggest the purchase of an appropriate handgun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, stockybasher said: Thank you for sharing this with us. You, and she!, have been thru an awful experience and hopefully you, she and her friends will get over it, but are now very beware of the trash walking our evening routes. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... Fancy him going against our great (NOT) Leader. Demanding an inquiry no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 27 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... I said exactly the same thing to my wife, Burnham is a shrewed political player, slippery as an eel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 If these grooming gangs did these abhorent crimes to the children of celebrities or those in power how would they react to the refusal to hold investigations to find and prosecute the perps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 I can’t help but remember that 2TK “borrowed” a penthouse from Lord Alli for a few months so his kid could study for his exams in peace. Yet getting to the truth about gang rapes of somebody else’s kids doesn’t warrant any action. And I thought that I couldn’t think any worse of Labour and its supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, welsh1 said: I said exactly the same thing to my wife, Burnham is a shrewed political player, slippery as an eel. He has lots of skeletons in his closet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, welsh1 said: I said exactly the same thing to my wife, Burnham is a shrewed political player, slippery as an eel. He is as utterly useless as every other Labour Politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, discobob said: He has lots of skeletons in his closet Exactly. The politicians will know better than us what’s going to be in the pot if the lid comes off… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... He would have to become an MP first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 9 hours ago, discobob said: He has lots of skeletons in his closet ooohhh do tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 17 hours ago, Rewulf said: I dont normally talk about this, but on this occasion Ill tell a little story about my daughter. 3 years ago my daughter (19 then) went out on a night in Nottingham, I would describe her as a 'bit woke' at the time. both my daughters were, a product of the lefty university system. She got a little drunk, as kids do, lost her phone, and decided rather stupidly, to walk the 2 miles home at 2am. A group of men, seeing her state started following her, trying to touch her and coerce her into coming back with them, the men she described as Asian, and spoke in a language she couldnt place, at one point she recognised the danger she was in and ran. They ran after her, and now terrified she hid in someones garden until they gave up. After a while she emerged, quite sober now, and saw they were still lurking around, she flagged down a cab, jumped into the front passenger seat and explained to the Asian driver that she was being followed and to take her home. Within 30 seconds he was groping her, she fought back and he slowed down enough for her to jump out, and ran the rest of the way home, terrified. The doorbell footage of her trying to get her key in the door, looking behind her absolutely terrified, believing that she was still being hunted, haunts me to this day. She had a lucky escape, and learned a hard lesson. I learned that, as a father I couldnt protect my daughter 100 % of the time, no one can. But there are threats out there, and believing that everyone behaves the same way, or has the same values, is an utter fallacy. The police were worse than useless, the advice amounted to dont go out, dont get drunk, theres no evidence.... On the plus side, shes a lot less woke, a lot less trusting, but is this the society we have created, where women and girls have to be on high alert all the time for SA ? Jeez, that's tough for both of you anf your family. I hope she is ok now and certainly a hard lesson learnt. There is no way that this is an isolated incident either where you live or country wide. I have seen that the economic migrants waiting to come here are receiving videos of British girls all dolled up for a night out, showing whats on offer for the scum when they get here. 13 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... Looks that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 18 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Has Andy Burnham, just fired his opening salvo in his bid for the leadership..... Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 And it has been nipped in the bud. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93l5y8v1pxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 https://www.thefp.com/p/bari-weiss-uk-grooming-gangs-cowardice-of-the-west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Just seen GBnews Nigel making a speech in Esther and threw down the gauntlet to Starlin that he REFORM would go for funding to start a full enquiry into grooming gangs if he failed to do so by the end of the month interesting outcome springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, armsid said: Just seen GBnews Nigel making a speech in Esther and threw down the gauntlet to Starlin that he REFORM would go for funding to start a full enquiry into grooming gangs if he failed to do so by the end of the month interesting outcome springs to mind Poor old TTK, what a shower this bunch are, full of excuses and spending our money on nothing of worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 (edited) 42 minutes ago, armsid said: Just seen GBnews Nigel making a speech in Esther and threw down the gauntlet to Starlin that he REFORM would go for funding to start a full enquiry into grooming gangs if he failed to do so by the end of the month interesting outcome springs to mind That might be some musk healing/appeasing effort - he might even fund it Edited January 10 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 From the Telegraph Majority of Britons back new grooming gang inquiry, poll finds Most Britons want the Government to launch a new inquiry into the grooming gangs scandal, a poll has found. More than three-quarters back demands for a national investigation, according to the YouGov survey, piling pressure on Sir Keir Starmer to drop his opposition to the move. Only 13 per cent of adults agree with the Government that no further inquiry is needed, including just one in five Labour voters. The poll of 2,533 adults, commissioned by the Women’s Policy Centre, found that 76 per cent of Britons would like to see a new investigation into the sexual abuse of children by grooming gangs. That includes nearly two in three Labour voters, 84 per cent of Tory supporters and 91 per cent of those backing Reform UK. According to GB News, the findings came just hours after Labour MPs were ordered to vote down a Tory move in the Commons to try to force a national inquiry. It followed a string of interventions by Elon Musk, the tech billionaire and ally of Donald Trump, who has repeatedly raised the issue on X, his social media site. Paola Diana, who chairs the Women’s Policy Centre, said the poll proved the demands for a fresh inquiry were “a national issue of huge concern”. The amendment to the Children’s Wellbeing Bill put forward by Tory MPs would have piled pressure on the Government to hold a statutory inquiry into historic child sexual exploitation. It was voted down by 364 to 111 – a majority of 253 – on Wednesday evening. No 10 had argued that the amendment would “kill the Bill”, with Sir Keir saying that victims wanted “action now, not the delay of a further inquiry”. The Prime Minister did not take part in the vote, forcing Downing Street to deny that he was wavering on the issue. On Thursday, Andy Burnham, the Labour Mayor of Greater Manchester, defied Sir Keir to appeal for a new investigation. His calls for a “limited national inquiry” were rejected by Lisa Nandy, the Culture Secretary, on Friday. Asked whether she agreed with Mr Burnham, Ms Nandy told Sky News: “I don’t, actually. I wouldn’t, of course, ever rule out any further inquiries at all.” The Government has argued that it should focus on implementing the recommendations of Prof Alexis Jay’s independent inquiry into child sexual abuse rather than launching another review. However, the Jay inquiry did not focus specifically on grooming, and the Prime Minister’s opponents want to see a new investigation into the issue to cover all bases. Ms Nandy said: “I think it would be very hard to say to victims we are doing another inquiry when we haven’t implemented a single recommendation from the last.” Baroness Harriet Harman, the Labour grandee, said she believed the Government could launch a “mini-inquiry” into the specific issue of how to help council workers and police better address issues related to race and ethnicity. She told Sky News: “Ann Cryer, who was a former Labour MP for Keighley, spoke very compellingly about how, when she raised the issue of forced marriage, when she raised the issue of grooming gangs, she was accused of being a racist and therefore the question is how people actually deal with this. “And I think that whether it is a task force, whether it is more action plans, whether it is a mini-inquiry on this, this is something that we need to develop resilience in, in police, CPS, but above all in councils where people can feel we know we are doing the right thing here, we are culturally supportive for our diverse communities but there are boundaries and these are where the boundaries are.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted Saturday at 21:26 Report Share Posted Saturday at 21:26 As i said earlier Anne Cryer was shut down but if it had been white gangs grooming Asian girls would a mini investigation be accepted by the non white community or would there be calls of racial discrimination if one was not held Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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