Range rover evoque any good?

[wisdom]

There is a very tidy good spec evoque for sale near me 2016 plate 2 litre diesel and its had a new timing chain and clutch 73000 miles. any experiences and thoughts please.It will be a second car and won't be doing any serious off roading just normal shooting stuff occasionally.Just in thought stage at the moment.

[Weihrauch17]

Personally I wouldn't, Land Rover's modern products are notoriously unreliable and spares supply is a real issue.  My neighbour has a new Discovery Sport and it has been off the road twice in 12 months for 2 months at a time waiting on spares.  Buy something Japanese.

[ditchman]

30 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Personally I wouldn't, Land Rover's modern products are notoriously unreliable and spares supply is a real issue.  My neighbour has a new Discovery Sport and it has been off the road twice in 12 months for 2 months at a time waiting on spares.  Buy something Japanese.

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[button]

Walk on by

[London Best]

Wife had a Discovery sport bought secondhand at three years old. Kept it three years with never a moments trouble. Beautiful vehicle.

Daughter had a similar car. Her’s was great for two years and then………..it cost her thousands.

[Poor Shot]

2.0 ingenium diesel is best avoided. Absolute pile of steaming dog ****.

Find yourself an earlier Discovery Sport or Evoque with the older 2.2 diesel from the freelander. It won't be EU6 compatible but it will go on forever.

[B391]

44 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

2.0 ingenium diesel is best avoided. Absolute pile of steaming dog ****.

Find yourself an earlier Discovery Sport or Evoque with the older 2.2 diesel from the freelander. It won't be EU6 compatible but it will go on forever.

and a new turbo costs about £3.5k.   thankfully i had a contribution from LR.   

I sold it and bought a Toyota

 

[JohnfromUK]

All cars are a risk, though when new and under warranty that is more of an inconvenience than a cost risk - but some are a greater risk than others.

I changed my car exactly a year ago and although I would have liked a LandRover (and still have my old Defender), I decided it was just too risky.

1. The basic reliability is less than other similar vehicles, particularly for the JLR Ingenium engine, and also for their diesels (DPF issues and oil dilution on short runs)
2. The cost of repairs is huge at main agents, but still not cheap at indies - partly as parts are expensive, but also they are hard to work on.
3. Parts availability seems to be a problem for some parts

I also found that unless you were looking for a new (or nearly new) vehicle, JLR dealers don't want to know you.  I went Japanese.

[London Best]

55 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

2.0 ingenium diesel is best avoided. Absolute pile of steaming dog ****.

Find yourself an earlier Discovery Sport or Evoque with the older 2.2 diesel from the freelander. It won't be EU6 compatible but it will go on forever.

THIS.

[Gordon R]

I was considering getting an XF Jaguar recently, but was put off by the timing chain problem - same engine as the Evoque.

[vmaxphil]

I was looking for a new car and thought do I want to give £50+grand to a company with a reliably record worse than larda

[wisdom]

All advice taken thank you.Not going to pursue it.

[JohnfromUK]

I think you are wise.  A quick search on 2.0 diesel ingenium problems brings up a lot of red flags.  The modern LandRover products are nice inside and drive and ride well ....... but it is a risk.

Edit: I just noticed that with a name like "Wisdom" - my opening sentence of "I think you are wise." might fall rather flat!

Edited Friday at 16:23 by JohnfromUK

[Poor Shot]

5 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I think you are wise.  A quick search on 2.0 diesel ingenium problems brings up a lot of red flags.  The modern LandRover products are nice inside and drive and ride well ....... but it is a risk.

Most manufacturers have a wobble now and then. Look at BMW and VW for timing chain issues, ford and PSA for wet belt issues, late 90's and 00's Mercedes that rusted for fun. The problem Land Rover had was their particular slip up being a 2.0 diesel engine which happened to be the most popular order on all of their most popular cars. They must have sold 10's of millions of the 2.0D ingenium in the disco sport, evoque, velar, discovery 5 and Jaguar saloons and SUVs. Issues didn't really start to materialise until 40 or 50k miles in by which time it was too late. I believe it was withdrawn from sale in the bigger cars when it became an issue as they had other engine options which the smaller cars didn't. 

The 3.0 inline 6 diesel ingenium or the 2.0 and 3.0 supercharged ingenium petrol equivalents are really strong engines and power most LR products today. 

Also have to factor in that most discovery sports, evoques and F/E-Pace cars were bought by faux middle class dopes and posh chavs who never went near a service center until the oil level or service light came on as well as long life service intervals. If you could find a 2.0 ingenium diesel that you knew had been looked after and serviced every 12 months/ 10k miles from new it wouldn't be a bad bet. 

[JohnfromUK]

3 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

Most manufacturers have a wobble now and then. Look at BMW and VW for timing chain issues, ford and PSA for wet belt issues, late 90's and 00's Mercedes that rusted for fun. The problem Land Rover had was their particular slip up being a 2.0 diesel engine which happened to be the most popular order on all of their most popular cars. They must have sold 10's of millions of the 2.0D ingenium in the disco sport, evoque, velar, discovery 5 and Jaguar saloons and SUVs. Issues didn't really start to materialise until 40 or 50k miles in by which time it was too late. I believe it was withdrawn from sale in the bigger cars when it became an issue as they had other engine options which the smaller cars didn't. 

The 3.0 inline 6 diesel ingenium or the 2.0 and 3.0 supercharged ingenium petrol equivalents are really strong engines and power most LR products today. 

Also have to factor in that most discovery sports, evoques and F/E-Pace cars were bought by faux middle class dopes and posh chavs who never went near a service center until the oil level or service light came on as well as long life service intervals. If you could find a 2.0 ingenium diesel that you knew had been looked after and serviced every 12 months/ 10k miles from new it wouldn't be a bad bet. 

If JLR are so confident that they have solved all their 'problems', perhaps they would do a 10 year warranty no extra charge (dependent of dealer service history) as Toyota do?  My 2022 Toyota is covered to 2032 (or 100K miles) provided I have an annual service from Toyota at their fixed price (which is lower than JLRs service costs I believe).

[Poor Shot]

2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

If JLR are so confident that they have solved all their 'problems', perhaps they would do a 10 year warranty no extra charge (dependent of dealer service history) as Toyota do?  My 2022 Toyota is covered to 2032 (or 100K miles) provided I have an annual service from Toyota at their fixed price (which is lower than JLRs service costs I believe).

JLRs reaction and subsequent customer service surrounding the problem is another issue. Lot's of people out there who will never darken LRs door again having been left out to dry when their £45k SUV needed a new engine 5k miles or 6 months after the 3 year warranty ended. 

Toyota are famous for their 10 year warranty and reasonable servicing costs, I'll give them that. Shame they can get a more reasonable version of the Land Cruiser in the UK that isn't hampered by limited supply or cost £65k+ for a basic 2.0 diesel.  

[JohnfromUK]

2 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

Shame they can get a more reasonable version of the Land Cruiser in the UK that isn't hampered by limited supply or cost £65k+ for a basic 2.0 diesel.  

Indeed - I agree (though I do now drive a LandCruiser).  The underlying reason for short supply and single (actually 2.8 diesel) is 'rules' where Toyota apparently as an importer have to meet 'average over all cars sold' emissions which means they need to sell LOTS of small economy cars for every 'gas guzzler'.

[enfieldspares]

21 hours ago, button said:

Walk on by

This. Electrics are notorious. Plus Land Rover have recently relocated their spare parts facility so very very many older parts were scrapped during the move so a 2016 model is coming close to the cut off point for spares to still be inventoried.

[Bigbob]

You checked out the Range rover sites ?. Mines the 2.2 and had it 4 years never a lick of bother no advisory's on mots either , Only time it failed a mot was before i had it for a slash in the tyre 

[Westley]

On 27/02/2025 at 22:28, Gordon R said:

I was considering getting an XF Jaguar recently, but was put off by the timing chain problem - same engine as the Evoque.

You dodged a bullet with that one Gordon  !  My S in Law has one. I went to Scotland in the back of it. Had to be the worst and most uncomfortable vehicle I have ever travelled in. The suspension was so 'stiff' every sunken grid or pothole,  I felt right through my spine. Horrible car.