gixer1 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Chorizo munching bull abusers....who conned a heap of Brits out of property and plots that weren't actually for sale.... And the reason so many Brits holiday/live there is because its relatively close... They have been brought to thier knees by thier own government, much the same as most of the EU/UK! Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Never been to Spain other than a one day business trip to Madrid. Not a lot of business got done though as they were all asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 If this post is going to be anything other than bash the Spanish we have to look at why not only Spain, but all the other countries have gone the same way in the same timeframe. Clearly the root cause was the Euro, was it easy money from Europe? don't have to try any more? Not exactly, they all would have gone down anyway but money from Europe masked it and ultimately made it worse. Now lots of chickens have come home to roost its not easy to see a way out. Apart from the sun obviously, people went to Spain because it was cheap, not now its dearer than Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 didn`t take much searching but i found your new avatar..... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 UK poacher, If such an enemy why do so many brits live and holiday there, i really dont believe you think of them as an enemy now do you? Just time for you and your little buddy to have a pop. Why do people go to Beerfests and river cruises in Germany? Why do they holiday in Italy? For Donald Duck's sake if we had to confine ourselves to countries we have never had a dispute with we'd all be holidaying on the Isle of Wight. You are without doubt the most stupid person who posts on here. You are that thick that there is only you who doesn't know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Well have their politicians been more corrupt than some of ours, to much reliance on dodgy EU handouts and no effort made to collect domestic taxes. Blackpowder (Who has been to neither country) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have never been to Spain (can't stand the heat), I prefer Switzerland in the spring! Problem with Spain, Portugal, Southern Ireland and Greece os that they all invented ways to get into the single currency and have been caught by the proverbial danglies in the mess that it has produced. Like margarine it was a good idea, trouble is like margarine it got spread into places you did not really want or need it and trouble ensued! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 España está llena del maloliente, greasey holgazanes pelo, perezosos y británicos excepto el presidiario que huye del brazo largo de la ley True, but there's some beautiful countryside.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Secretagentmole, you beat me to it. The EU wanted everyone in their gang, so started handing out wonga lik eit was going out of fashion, created artificial markets out of most things ( CAP & CFP. Look at Ireland ***, all based on property. Let's be clear, only two things rule the markets, be it property or oranges, greed and fear, and a few people in most countries went out and filled their boots taking on ( in some cases in ireland ) 10 x salary mortgages. Yes the bankers were mad to offer them but the so were the public to accept them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman2 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Spain.... Great Neighbour.... ally.... did i blink and miss something? i fail to think of anything the spanish have given us in modern history. This!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I`m not sure that the surviving offspring of those south American indians butchered, enslaved, raped and exterminated by the Spanish Conquistadors will be shedding too many tears about Spains economic problems. The Dago`s went in for genocide in a way that few European colonialists ever did. Must be the Arab in `em. Xenophobia rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 UK poacher, If such an enemy why do so many brits live and holiday there, i really dont believe you think of them as an enemy now do you? Just time for you and your little buddy to have a pop. The sun shines,they have a very good health service,and its only two hours from the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 The Dago`s went in for genocide in a way that few European colonialists ever did. With the notable exception of the British, of course. Masters of plunder, genocide and oppression. Ask in India, Pakistan, Cyprus, the new world, most of Africa etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistercr0c Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Lets not forget it was the British who invented the concentration camp..... Edited February 2, 2012 by Sinistercr0c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Can we not compare past colonial sins, its utterly pointless. The world's colonialists-in-chief now are the Chinese who are ruthlessly stripping the continent of Africa to deafening silence from the West who seem only concerned with abetting the process by selling the Chinese European sovereign debt. The only imperial legacies that matter are those which endure and change countries for ever. Britain's legacy was democracy, Spain's was Catholicism. I'm not convinced democracy is quite the panacea we think it is; it seems to represent a cacophoney of competing voices, but its better than fascism or socialism. Catholicism is a pernicious interpretation of Christianity that frightens people into compliance and has delivered a terrible over-population pandemic around the world. And that's about the sum total of 500 years of European civilisation. Now the bill has come in, and it is not inappropriate that Spain has been one of the first to feel the weight of the tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Agreed! If one actually understands history, and I mean what really happened, not the condensed and invariably anti British version,the comments about the British being the masters of punder, genocide and oppression will be seen for the utter nonesense that they are. Most of the countries plundered and oppressed by Britain were so upset by the process that,when they gained their independence, bit of a clue there,they willingly remained as part of the Commonwealth. Spain has no such legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 With the notable exception of the British, of course. Masters of plunder, genocide and oppression. Ask in India, Pakistan, Cyprus, the new world, most of Africa etc Cyprus? When Cypriots wanted independence they also wanted the British to stay. It was only after HM Government refused to allow them independence in order to offer protection to the Turkish population that extremists started targeting British people. They also targeted Cypriot people who did not openly support independence. Before that time Britain had built an infrastructure of roads and irrigation and created hundreds of jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Plunder and Genocide?, we civilised half the world man!. India has alway said that whilst we didn't get it right, we didn't try andf change too much, whereas the americans would have tried to americanise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenjammer Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Can we not compare past colonial sins, its utterly pointless. The world's colonialists-in-chief now are the Chinese who are ruthlessly stripping the continent of Africa to deafening silence from the West who seem only concerned with abetting the process by selling the Chinese European sovereign debt. The only imperial legacies that matter are those which endure and change countries for ever. Britain's legacy was democracy, Spain's was Catholicism. I'm not convinced democracy is quite the panacea we think it is; it seems to represent a cacophoney of competing voices, but its better than fascism or socialism. Catholicism is a pernicious interpretation of Christianity that frightens people into compliance and has delivered a terrible over-population pandemic around the world. And that's about the sum total of 500 years of European civilisation. Now the bill has come in, and it is not inappropriate that Spain has been one of the first to feel the weight of the tab. Good post! My daughter has worked in Spain for 3 yrs and on two of the Canary Islands for 6mths or so before that. She says the Spaniards are lazy, dirty, arrogant, live on past glories and nationalism too much, rely on hardworking immigrants to carry the systems for them, want state handouts, want to start work when they are older and retire early. In short a bit like Brits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Lets not forget it was the British who invented the concentration camp..... yes but please remember that our concentration camps were not death camps, which would seem to be the reference you inferred. KW Edited February 2, 2012 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Without wanting to drag this off topic, a "concentration camp" where people died through overwork and neglect and a dedicated "death camp" are different things, even in the context of the Holocaust. Concentration Camp has become shorthand for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) yes but please remember that our concentration camps were not death camps, which would seem to be the reference you inferred. KW Might be worth you reading this before you claim that one. http://www.erroluys.com/BoerWarChildsStory.htm Particularly the bit that says "The concentration camps claimed the lives of 27,972 Boers. Of these, 22,074 were children " Edited February 2, 2012 by 39TDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Lets not forget it was the British who invented the concentration camp..... The Spanish invented the Concentration Camp during the Cuban revolt against Spanish rule that began in 1895, and ended with the American Expiditionary Force invasion of 1898 which routed the Spanish forces. The Second Boer War, in which concentration camps were used by the British, started in 1897... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Why am I not surprised that this forum is full of cliche spouting xenophobes and bigots. Spain is a stunning country with a rich history, culture and amazing regional diversity. Wander away from the tourist traps into the Pyrenees/Basque region or a thousand other places and you'll be rewarded with music, food, and a rich culture that will blow your mind. The only part of Spain to avoid are the ghettos full of tattooed union jack bedecked amoebas who daren't wander mote than 100 yards from a 'genuine' English pub showing premiership footy and serving all day fry ups :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Why am I not surprised that this forum is full of cliche spouting xenophobes and bigots. Spain is a stunning country with a rich history, culture and amazing regional diversity. Wander away from the tourist traps into the Pyrenees/Basque region or a thousand other places and you'll be rewarded with music, food, and a rich culture that will blow your mind. The only part of Spain to avoid are the ghettos full of tattooed union jack bedecked amoebas who daren't wander mote than 100 yards from a 'genuine' English pub showing premiership footy and serving all day fry ups :( At long last, somebody who has managed to venture more than 500 yards from their sunbed at the Hotel Costa del ****hole. The touristy parts of Spain are, as they are here, best avoided. Get into most areas of Spain and you will find a warm, welcoming, sociable people who are equally amazed that they have met a Brit who isn't bladdered, wearing Union Jack shorts and a sunburn while waving a pint of Lager around and shouting loudly in English to try and get themselves understood. As well as country of quite amazing culture, scenery and vistas in parts. Travel broadens the mind they say, but a 2 hour flight and 20 minute coach transfer it would appear isn't quite traveled enough. Edited February 2, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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