AVB Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I am fairly senior within the Bank I work for I just go can't go running off complaining without thinking of the consequences but would appreciate sensible view on how to deal with this. One of my bosses has just sent a mail to a group of fairly senior group of people in the Bank on behalf of his daughter. It says "I don't expect AVB minds the unnecessary slaughter of badgers but the rest of you should check the facts - They are not compelling in favour of the current proposal" Then a link to www.change.org and a petition on stopping the badger cull. He knows I shoot and has made comments in passing before. This is somebody who is a fairly decent bloke but who does decide my pay and career. Do I forget it? Raise it with him? Reply to the wider audience? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ignore it, just don't get into the argument / discussion. Let his daughter keep believing badgers are cute and fluffy and not responsible for spreading tb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ignore it simply that unless he pushes you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Agreed, your not going to change their opinion by arguing, so why risk your career. Just let it go. Just get some nice shooting pics up on your desktop screensaver lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 It is a wholly inappropriate email to send around an office whether or not a reference to you was included in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 You may have short term win, with long term loss ! Wrong though if sent via company mail. I'm lucky - our MD is a keen hunter / shooter. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Would a head lock be inappropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzypigeon Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 me personally i'd reply and include HR simply because I hate the way people think they can use their position to bully those below them. I have had many arguments with work and i'm just a tradesmen, i've had arguments with the head of european section of the firm and told him many home truths about the treatment of us and the running of the company of general.......did anything change ......no but i personally have had any issues i've had since dealt with quickly and fairly which wasnt the case before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ignore it. Think about this, too many email 'incidents' end up in tribunals these days. Being drawn into an argument in the workplace will not have a good ending it would not be using your head. If you are going to say something, say it verbally in a situation where you are not in the workplace. Keep the email or forward it to private email and print it for a file at home -and any subsequent correspondence. Bottom line -stay out of it, if working in large organisations has taught me anything it's to cover your **** and pick your fights carefully. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskoky Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 agree with the others - ignore it - your boss will look more of a moron for sending inappropriate emails. If you get into an argument you will lose the high ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagante Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 We should pick our fights carefully and take some time to consider the consequences. All our actions affect both us and the people and environment that surround us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Settle it like a man. Kick his office door open and start windmilling in! Personally I'd not rise to it, just ignore the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 screen saver of a dead badger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welsh1 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Keep the email or forward it to private email and print it for a file at home -and any subsequent correspondence. Leave it and do as above,office politics are a messy business,just cover your back with all correspondence by keeping it somewhere safe,then should the day come when you have to come out fighting you will have all the evidence. A mate did the above and was initially sacked,but when he dumped all the emails from the director that had sacked him which showed a lot of shady things the director was asking him to do and also things that were not good for the company,my mate was reinstated and the director was out. Keep it all and keep it safe no matter how trivial it may seem at the time. Edited February 10, 2013 by welsh1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Personally, I'd mention it to him face to face, and just tell him that you feel it was a little inappropriate. If as you say, he is a decent enough bloke he should see it and avoid doing similar in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Try eBay - you should be able to buy some badger skin clothing from the days when badger hide could be used, wear this to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 bend him over his own desk and proceed to roger him with his filofax until he apologises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 You say he's a fairly decent bloke? If so why rock the boat? He may well have included you in the comment knowing that the others would chuckle at it? A bit rude perhaps, but not the end of the world. Of course only you know the guy and have a chance of reading into what he was getting at, but he's entitled to his opinion the same as we are. I don't believe that the badger cull is a great idea myself. Allowing selective control where there is an issue is one thing, but to kill off your badgers if you're TB free would be daft. You run as much risk in that situation of opening the doors to TB ridden badgers coming in as you do solving an issue which isn't present on your farm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I wouldn't say anything. Least said, soonest mended. Stay away from it but keep a copy on file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Get an image of a fluffy badger for your pc wallpaper/screen saver. People will look confused and you can tell them 'It isn't about mindless murder, I actually like seeing badgers in the wild. The cull is about managing numbers and working to reduce numbers of bovine TB incidents, which in turn often puts farmers out of business'. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Has he asked you if you 'mind the unnecessary slaughter of badgers',or is he just assuming?Just because you're a shooter doesn't necessarily mean you approve. Do you know how your work colleagues feel about the issue,and is the instruction to 'check the facts' a demand or simply advice? Only you know your boss,and this should govern how you react,based on how you feel about the badger cull,and what you think your boss's reaction would be dependant on your reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyes Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Personally, and I work in the same sector as you, I would be bringing this up with the head of HR. Specifying names in this context is tantamount to bullying. By using your name he/she is deliberatly trying to muddy your name with collegues and its wholy unproffesional Get away with this one today, what tomorrow? I would at least have my objection to the treatment noted with HR, but depending on the relationship might push for an apology/retraction to the same parties from said manager. Added to this, use of company property to push a personal agenda I'm pretty sure is a big no no. Sometimes folk need to be reminded they can't go about doing as they please. If he's a proffesional then he should recognise his mistake and not hold a grudge Edited February 10, 2013 by 4eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 You say he's a fairly decent bloke? If so why rock the boat? He may well have included you in the comment knowing that the others would chuckle at it? A bit rude perhaps, but not the end of the world. Of course only you know the guy and have a chance of reading into what he was getting at, but he's entitled to his opinion the same as we are. I don't believe that the badger cull is a great idea myself. Allowing selective control where there is an issue is one thing, but to kill off your badgers if you're TB free would be daft. You run as much risk in that situation of opening the doors to TB ridden badgers coming in as you do solving an issue which isn't present on your farm! No where are they proposing a cull of badgers in non affected areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Again similar to above, having recently left a large high street bank (lloyds) where they have a very strict Internet and email usage policy. I would deem him to have broken the rules and is in direct breach of these conditions, if sent via a company email address. Shoe on the other foot, what if you'd sent an email around with a shooting related topic, say air rifle ban in Scotland!! He takes umbridge to this topic, does he A. discuss it with you directly, B. what happens in the world of save your own backside, he consults HR and you receive a written warning etc etc. Or C. you save said email for a future 1-2-1 and out it comes including the HR policy. Automatic payrise and promotion, was it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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