SO3isme Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Was watching Fieldsportstv and Mark Gilchrist (I think) said something to the effect ' guns only last 20000 shots but these ear defenders will last a lifetime'. Surely this can't be true? Then it got me thinking - are as many shotguns being broken up and scrapped as new ones enter the market? or is there an ever increasing number of shotguns in circulation? I'd certainly be pretty upset if I bought a new gun and then had to throw it away because it was worn out after 20000 shells - even if it took me 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 The majority of shotguns made will last in excess of 20,000 shots, I own a few. Undoubtedly, quite a few shotguns get scrapped "early" for various reasons, some for needing uneconomical repairs. As a lot of gun owners have more than one gun , I don't think every gun purchased replaces one thats been taken out of circulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 It depends on the amount and type of usage and the amount of care. in other words how long is a piece of string.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I have one thats over 200 years old .... and still shooting (muzzle loader of course) I know of someone who shot over 10,000 cartridges a year, and had a shooting 'life' of over 60 years. He used his late Fathers guns (made for him in the 1920s) most of his shooting life, and they must have shot several hundreds of thousands of cartridges. They were well looked after, but the bluing was quite worn away where his left hand went and most of the chequering was worn nearly smooth. I know he had never had a new spring or firing pin, but I can't be sure on joint pins. Barrels were original. I reckon I have put over 30,000 through my Beretta and its never had any parts replaced and is still perfectly tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 i have a fabarm 3 shot that was made/bought in 1977 and has had over 100k carts though it and it's still going strong with only a new spring fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Well i better scrap my EELL then, shot more than that through it. Must be worth a £10 note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 The Berettas' they use for Argentinian dove hunting last for 100's of 1000's of shots. Gilchrist can be a bit of a *** really can't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 In all my years of shooting I have never seen a shot gun barrel shot out . Shooting lead pellets the gun will last a life time if looked after . Shooting steel pellets ,I dont know ? Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Surely maintaining them will prolong the life of a shotgun? Like cleaning oiling etc... As for the statement. It has to be wrong. I know guns that have had way more than that through them and are going strong. I shoot 1,500-2,000 carts through mine each month. Mine wont be lasting long at that rate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Absolute ********! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 gilchrist is better stickin to his mancini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 gilchrist is better stickin to his mancini Is he a fan of his music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 The chap that taught me to shoot reckoned that he'd fired 250,000 cartridges down his Beretta 682. It felt nice and smooth to open but by no means loose. I've often wondered how shotguns end up going out of proof? I assume it's down to corrosion being removed rather than the wad wearing away the barrel? If you let a barrel go rusty and then clean it a few times you'll soon pull enough material off of it to mess it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Modern guns who knows how many carts they will last for, doesn't coleys have a miroku over 1 million shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 My current favourite is a Dickson Round Action built in 1889 and No1 of a pair, still has original damascus barrels and the stock is immaculate. As to the stock being the original I have no way of knowing but it looks in such good condition it must have at least been refurbished at some time. Next in line a W.R.Pape boxlock ejector with sleeved barresl which will hit its century next year. Not to mention an Army and Navy hammer gun "K Quality" which could stand for keeper, in fact bought from a gamekeeper around 1960 and seen plenty of usage in its lifetime. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 any decent quality shotgun will outlast the owner as long as it is treated with respect and looked after as they should be.as most modern guns can have any part replaced cheaper than buying a new gun.rust is probably the biggest enemy of any gun so just clean them and you will have a friend for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Our club had a pair of Baikal O/Us that were used as club guns for years. I wouldn't like to say how many cartridges they must have had through them in their time with us but they were still tight when we sold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO3isme Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Well, I think the above replies are pretty conclusive, although I didn't have any doubt. I just checked the item again on Fieldsportstv and he actually does say ' The average gun will only last 20,000 shots'. I think he may be supporting his ear defender sponsor a little more than necessary. Lets assume he knows more about cooking than guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Gilchrist is wrong!,and by a long way.! I cant tell you how many shots, a shotgun can fire before its worn out,but I bought a rizzini years ago,and put more than 20,000 through that,and it was as good as the day I bought it when it was sold,it never had any thing go wrong with it either! I used to clean it every time i used it, but,it never had a service,it never even had the action open. That was what I would call, a cheap entry level gun,and not of the same quality as a basic Browning / Beretta. Arnt Browning guaranteeing there new A5 for 100,000 shots ? I dont hold much store by that, as I dont know how you would prove the gun had shot less,or they would prove it had shot more, but the general idea is, it should be good for that amount of use trouble free, they are not saying that 100.000 and its ****ed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Maybe he just buys **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 20,000 you may just be on to your first set of overs on a decent ou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 20,000 numpty! One of our Olympic skeet shooters shoots 40k carts a year in practice and comps new gun every 6 months....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) 20,000 numpty! One of our Olympic skeet shooters shoots 40k carts a year in practice and comps new gun every 6 months....... Yes but that's because the sponsor will take it back and re sell it as virually new. So the loan of the gun costs the sponsor almost nothing. The person who buys it has no idea and no reason to worry. Its still a good gun. Edited August 4, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I don't think he does get a new one every 6 months but they certainly outlast 20k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Easy last longer than 20k, my lanber had more than that last year by me and the Mrs and I bought it second hand, no noticable wear and tight as a drum. I know of guns over 100 years old (as do many of you) tha that are going strong.hate to think how many the biakal had thru it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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