Dead-Eyed Duck Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Be polite, but firm. Let me repeat the above. It's very easy to speculate on his motives, but they are not your concern - all you want is the pay rise, and to spend your money as you see fit. If he throws a strop, then his motives will become clear, and time to put the feelers out for another job. Never, ever burn your boat until you have a better boat to board. Been there, and moved on. Never regretted it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) Tell him you will only use the gym if he shares the sauna and the jacuzzi with you... Edited September 3, 2013 by oscarsdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peskyfoxs Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 doesn't seem right to me, he doesn't work as a personal trainer on the side does he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Given that a gym membership wasn't asked for, wasn't originally offered and generally was not "visible" as an option to you. You should go back to your boss and ask for a go on his Mrs. Alright you didn't originally ask for a go, a go wasn't offered but since it's all going off piste you thought you might have an ask - nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that. Let us know how you get on (generally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 I reckon he is 'haggin your Doris. -His mate is the personal trainer -You book your sessions -The P.T texts your guvnor -Your guvnor books his sessions Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Be polite, but firm. Let me repeat the above. It's very easy to speculate on his motives, but they are not your concern - all you want is the pay rise, and to spend your money as you see fit. If he throws a strop, then his motives will become clear, and time to put the feelers out for another job. Never, ever burn your boat until you have a better boat to board. Been there, and moved on. Never regretted it..... Best advice so far... thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 The first question I would be asking myself is is he gay. If he is then I expect he would like to see you in shape and tight shorts. If he's not gay then he's banging someone he shouldn't be. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Now now, lets not be hasty, does the personal trainer do 'happy endings'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim85 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 That is not a pay rise, that is treated as an incentive / benefit. So essentially this is not the pay rise that he has mentioned to you. I would ask him for the honest reason's around offering this instead of the pay rise which as you say would be welcomed to pay bills and buy guns :-), if he mentions anything about your weight this can be treated as a grievance and you can take them to court over discrimination in the work place! I doubt they would offer this to a fat lass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 I think it would be seen as a benefit in kind and you would end up paying tax on the benefit of gym membership so you would be paying tax on something you did not want. Take money instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mereside Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 tell him he needs the membership more than you do as you spend many ours out in the field , now show me the money fatboy .This works everytime or just pukker up and take the membership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Without seeing you it is hard to really say it could be that he thinks that you have put to much wait on and he thinks that you are good at your job and he is woried that you could have a hart problems and he dose not want to loose a valuble member of staff I just thought that someone should play the devals advocate and give another point of vew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 The first question I would be asking myself is is he gay. If he is then I expect he would like to see you in shape and tight shorts. If he's not gay then he's banging someone he shouldn't be. Hope that helps He's married , with a 3 years old boy... if he mentions anything about your weight this can be treated as a grievance and you can take them to court over discrimination in the work place! I doubt they would offer this to a fat lass! i was thinking the same at some point... tell him he needs the membership more than you do as you spend many ours out in the field , now show me the money fatboy .This works everytime or just pukker up and take the membership Actually he's fatter and younger than me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Greedy sod is looking to shaft you out of your pay rise. Tell him you want your money, not half measures. Ask him if his offer is a direct comparison to the amount of effort you should put into his company. More money more effort, after his puny offer put your feet up and start reading shooting mags. Sounds like he wants a barter system. Tell him you've asked your mortgage lender and sadly they won't accept full gym membership as payment on your mortgage. How much is gym membership with personnel trainer, didn't think it was much a month. Or is this gym a decerning gentlemens club of some repute, ooer missus. You never know your personnel trainer might be Jessica Ennis that's why he said you can't refuse. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) You could all ways tell him that you never knew he held you in such high regard as a valued employee to not give you the agreed pay rise and offer you cut rate,tax rise gym membership. Which will cost you money,ask him how you could ever repay such generosity, but you will give it your full undivided attention untill you manage it. I'm feeling peed off for you. Figgy Edited September 3, 2013 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Is this offer of gym membership to go in company time? It would be worth at least 1 hour training session + 20 min changing time + 30 min traveling time each way = 2hr20min time off from your working day. You don't have to go to the gym and could go shooting instead Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 He's married , with a 3 years old boy... i was thinking the same at some point... Actually he's fatter and younger than me... Elton John was married Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Tell him he hurt your feelings implying you're fat and take a year off with stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Tell him he hurt your feelings implying you're fat and take a year off with stress Thats the way forward, see your doctor for stress get signed of on full pay and go shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Elton John was married being married to another man doesnt count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 simple tell him thank you for the offer of membership you will be happy to take it as well as your monetry pay rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 being married to another man doesnt count In the late 1960s, John was engaged to be married to his first lover, secretary Linda Woodrow, who is mentioned in the song "Someone Saved My Life Tonight". He married German recording engineer Renate Blauel on 14 February 1984, in Darling Point, Sydney, with speculation that the marriage was a cover for his homosexuality. John had come out as bisexual in a 1976 interview with Rolling Stone, but after his divorce from Blauel in 1988 he told the magazine that he was "comfortable" being gay. From Wiki, so it must be right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 What's wrong with that? you are joking, I know you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Is this offer of gym membership to go in company time? It would be worth at least 1 hour training session + 20 min changing time + 30 min traveling time each way = 2hr20min time off from your working day. You don't have to go to the gym and could go shooting instead Good luck No chance in company time mate, that would be a whole different story.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 If it was me I would try to put it into an actual monetary value - if he was offering say a 1 or 2% pay rise on for example a £25k job that would be £250/£500 and taxable- if the regular value of a gym membership, ie what you would have to pay to join the gym in question, is £60/month + £100 joining fee thats £820 and perhaps claimed as a business expense? so he may actually be trying to offer more in a roundabout way? Or he may just want to give you one in the changing rooms as others have said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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