pegasus bridge Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Should we ban anyone coming here from Israel? One country has officially announced that they are a terrorist nation so why do we allow them in ? The atrocities committed over there make Isis or whatever they are called look like they have the training wheels attached to their bicycles. Yawn...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 They're from Austria, they're not British Citizens. The question was British girls. The Austrian girls would not be coming here,they were an example. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The question was British girls. The Austrian girls would not be coming here,they were an example. Figgy The OP edited the first post it originally inferred they were British. Which is why my post #2 looks daft. Edited October 14, 2014 by TriBsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oops. Best edit your your number 2 post fella stating that. We do like putting out foot in our mouths on here. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oops. Best edit your your number 2 post fella stating that. We do like putting out foot in our mouths on here. Figgy Changed my post so that it's not looking so daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 wouldnt it depend on their age? Minors get away with anything these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 We once had treason laws, are they now defunct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Treason still is an offence, unfortunately not a Capital one any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 A lot would depend on the circumstances in them going over there. Children including teenagers can be groomed into doing a lot of things. Grooming does not always mean paedefiles grooming kids. It can be weird religious cults both Christian and Moslem. Youngsters can often be pursuaded into stuff that adults would never countenance. Not saying this is the case here, but it is something to consider. Who hasn't done stuff as teenagers and regretted it as an adult. Not saying they shouldn't be punished, but there are two sides to every story and we only see what the paper wants to print. If the paper had printed weird Moslem cult grooms kids into leaving families and brainwashes them into joining, would we be so condemning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Perhaps they need to visit a camp in Cuba for a while to reflect on their actions. Sort of extreme bootcamp..... I wonder exactly what they did for IS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Perhaps they need to visit a camp in Cuba for a while to reflect on their actions. Sort of extreme bootcamp..... I wonder exactly what they did for IS? Well, they're both pregnant. Perhaps there's your clue....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) One of "our" girls is 15 and at that age I had some pretty strange ideas, ideologies and general thoughts on the world that i don't have now - Quite the reverse in fact now that i am a bourgeois capitalist pig! I don't think you can willingly punish naivety, but there has to be an age/culpability limit somewhere. Just type in IS be-heading's in Google obviously would not post a link and you will soon see your naivety at work its one thing having fanciful inane thoughts its quite another when you are actually beheading people when you are still 12 years old, yes 12 and well schooled in the act before that,the girls should not be allowed in for two reasons 1) they stepped of the civilsed bus and took another route. 2) it will cost us fortune maintaining surveillance on them. KW Edited October 14, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 No way, let them stay where they are and be temporary wives for IS fighters. They wanted to to fight with IS they can stay and die with IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juby trap Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 leave them where they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim85 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Sorry, leave them there to rot silently in the heat. Set the example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Leave them to rot where they are. no space back here and they didnt like it when they were here anyway ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 i can find nothing about this on the net Hi O&U, Due to my dwindling brain cells, I can't remember where I read this, but i'm certain that i did.Maybe it's being kept low profile, to use if and when. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi O&U, Due to my dwindling brain cells, I can't remember where I read this, but i'm certain that i did.Maybe it's being kept low profile, to use if and when. from Auntie. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubris Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The law exists. We used it to "exclude" about 40 people last year, about half of which were for public safety. The total document is 430KB so unless there is some way to shrink a pdf then I can't post it. It can be downloaded from : www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn06820.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisondan Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Nope, unless they agree to have some sort of 'Inglorious Basterds' treatment carried out on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I take it the grass isn't as green in is then well tough let them stay there they made there choice how about all the people is hurt they had no choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Of course we should allow them back, give them a nice big house and a few hundred in benefits. After all this is Soft Britain, or was it once called Great Britain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Interesting story of a couple of Austrian girls who joined IS as jihadis they now want to go back home should we let British girls back http://www.itv.com/news/2014-10-12/teenage-girl-jihadis-want-to-come-home-after-joining-islamic-state/ In a one word answer NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochastorm Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The U.k. allows entry to all sorts of people. This includes former child soldiers from African war zones, who have committed unspeakable acts. They are children and young people, some of whom have been the victims of indoctrination and brainwashing. Every case must be taken on its own merits, but I believe it is too simplistic to just say that they cannot return. Edited October 15, 2014 by Mochastorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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