Fisherman Mike Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Personally I think whether he is actually guilty or not (I know he was convicted) he should be given chance to redeem himself and his career. If not then the British Legal and Penal system is fundamentally flawed. He has done what the judicial system required of him and that should be sufficient. Of course he has shown no remorse and I believe that’s because he genuinely believes he has done no wrong….. I hope also that his victim comes forward and tells the truth. People keep on about footballers being a role model and looked up to by the youngsters.. to my mind that’s a complete load of tosh…Its just a job for the majority of them. Moral comparisons are being made between him and Gerrard which again is unfair and unjustified…Some have short memories…didn’t Gerrard escape a custodial after him and his mates beat some DJ up a few years back. ? Edited January 8, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think he should be allowed to play. Firstly- he has served his time (albeit he is now on licence) and secondly the details of the case are not IMHO a convincing take of rape . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Using the phrase......'a complete load of cock' is unfortunate in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) my thoughts are similar IE how do you say sorry for something you deny doing? and having read about this case and what seemingly happened I reckon he has a dammed good chance of winning his case yes I think it would have been best to wait his appeal before looking for work, but should his conviction be quashed I hope the high profile hang him high brigade such as jessica ennis whatever put their heads back above the parapet and say SORRY for trying to ruin someones life. KW Edited January 8, 2015 by kdubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Let him get on with his life. I wasnt at the trial so cannot comment on guilt/non guilt but he was sentanced. Now he has served the custodial part with the rest to be served on licence if I have it correct so what does he do! Do nothing for the next 2 1/2 years, even claiming benefits etc and then not be able to rejion his chosen profession as he will have been sidelined too long or Let him return to his career.... Me personally as stated at the biginning of my post thinks he should be allowed to play, and if the UK general public wont let him lead a normal life then the overseas options should be allowed ( yes his current licencing does not allow this but an exception maybe?) Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1984 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) In my opinion, he didnt rape anybody, he just wouldnt pay over any cash to quash the " rape " accusations. And i think he should be able to play again Edited January 8, 2015 by rich1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 He's as guilty as a lot of blokes now days, girl gets steaming drunk to the point of not knowing what they are doing, they have sexual contact and then wake up and forget all about it. How many stories have you heard of from people saying they woke up in a place they didn't know with someone they didn't know? I bet a lot of those people still have jobs and aren't convicted of rape. I am not sticking up for Ched Evans per se, but the thing that annoys me is that she was just a victim of what happens a lot now days with the binge drinking society we live in,but being higher profile he's well and truly spoilt his life. On FM's other part, I don't think that because a guy can boot an air filled leather sack around fairly accurately and spend more time that his plastic girlfriend in the bathroom, that he should be a role model. Someone out there building schools in damaged economies, helping the sick, changing the world for the better - they should be role models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think it's a bit of a difficult question. On one hand, i agree that he's served his custodial sentence and will continue to serve the remainder and should therefore be allowed to resume his career. On the other hand he's shown no remorse for what he was found guilty of, other than todays rather lame/non committal apology. Regardless of how footballers perceive themselves, to many youngsters they are role models whether they believe it or not. Kids want to emulate their fame, fortune and success, and with that comes the belief that certain behaviors are acceptable. in my view, it wouldn't hurt for him to not play football until the outcome of the CCRC investigation. After that, anyone's guess based on the outcome and the fans appetite to have him back. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If he was found guilty then we have to assume he was, I'm saying that to avoid being accused of "police bashing" , footballers get paid stupid amounts of money and are role models for millions of children worldwide, personally I think any criminal convictions whatsoever should result in a lifetime ban from playing professionaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If he was found guilty then we have to assume he was, I'm saying that to avoid being accused of "police bashing" , footballers get paid stupid amounts of money and are role models for millions of children worldwide, personally I think any criminal convictions whatsoever should result in a lifetime ban from playing professionaly history is full of cases of found guilty then proved not. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Its a difficult one there is a difference between being found guilty and being guilty , then same could apply to being innocent. Only he and the girl know the truth , but if he knows he is innocent then why should he apologise for something he has not done . But apology or not he has done the time for his alledged crime and should now be left to get on with what ever he chooses to do in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 And if it was your daughter who was making the allegation I bet your attitude would change. You'd be on PW baying blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Whether he is guilty of not - a court found him guilty and sent him to prison. Just where does it say he can't get on with his life. If he had almost any other job - please don't supply a list of jobs it would affect - he would be allowed to go back to it. Because he is a footballer, some want an extra punishment. People complained he didn't apologise - he then apologises - that isn't enough. He didn't sound sincere enough for some. Just what do they want? Someone got killed by a goalkeeper a couple of years ago - there are more footballers who have killed someone - but this lad has to carry on paying. I have no time for him, but can't see the fuss. The morale outrage brigade worry me. As for the "if it was your daughter etc" - I would hope any child of mine would have more sense than to get blind drunk and end up in a hotel with a stranger. Turn it on its head - if it was your son - would you expect him to keep paying for the rest of his life? Edited January 8, 2015 by Gordon R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1984 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 And if it was your daughter who was making the allegation I bet your attitude would change. You'd be on PW baying blood. Thats true, but this lass has form for trying it on with other sportsmen and settling in cash out of court and the media, i think there was a rugby player a while ago who she tried it with..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 He should have waited for his appeal to be heard to see if his conviction was overturned. As it is he is a convicted rapist and on the sex offenders list. Not the type of person you would want anyone to look up to as a role model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think he should be allowed to play. Firstly- he has served his time (albeit he is now on licence) and secondly the details of the case are not IMHO a convincing take of rape . +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thats true, but this lass has form for trying it on with other sportsmen and settling in cash out of court and the media, i think there was a rugby player a while ago who she tried it with..... A very strong allegation, have you proof and are you prepared to repeat in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't know the exact circumstances of this case. Some here might, or might have heard one side of the story, but not the other. But ... there are a list of proscribed jobs (and even hobbies, like shooting) for people convicted of various offences. 'Professional sportsman' is not on that list, so he should be allowed to resume his career. Anything else is the mentality of the mob, and if we're going down that route ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 as always there are two sides too every story,, should he be allowed to play football(professional) again ? personally I would say NO should he be allowed to play football again ? YES Rhyl have a good amateur side let him play for them,,don't think he would survive long though he WAS convicted and has basically used and abused his stature in the footballing world, he only wants to play again because the money is silly amounts per week,, tough on him, he WAS convicted by a jury so its tough luck if he wants to play football again then there are plenty of amateur clubs who would let him play but I don't think the communities will be very happy, hard cack mr Evans,,you are a convicted rapist so no one wants you playing football for them so go kick a ball against the wall YOU SAD LITTLE IDIOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1984 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 A very strong allegation, have you proof and are you prepared to repeat in court. I read this online and presumed it was common knoledge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I read this online and presumed it was common knoledge ? I've read online that Elvis is alive. Does that mean that it's true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I read this online and presumed it was common knoledge ? There's a load of stuff online and most of it is rubbish, I once read Alan Pardew was a good football manager and we all know that's a load of ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If anyone's interested, this BBC article gives an interesting standpoint from an employment law perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1984 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I've read online that Elvis is alive. Does that mean that it's true ? Thats for you to decide, i knew "i read it online " was a mistake as soon as i pressed post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 And if it was your daughter who was making the allegation I bet your attitude would change. You'd be on PW baying blood. I would like to think my daughters would have more sense to get drunk and go back to a hotel room with a man they had just met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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