the crowman Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 If that's the case you had better get all your money out and move to France, Don't tell them your from Hartlepool though. LOL :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 LOL :) If that's the case you had better get all your money out and move to France, Don't tell them your from Hartlepool though. may as well I work for a french company and can speak a little french KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm not a traitor, I'm not a thief, I am not a benefit basher,I dont do lies, so only one for me come on nige. KW And he will be different? i remain to be convinced, there has to be some give and take and things have to change when in power. Don't get me wrong- As an example,Gay Marriage wasn't even mentioned in the manifesto and a vote on the hunting ban was. One goes on the statute book, one doesn't even get a mention so DC is far from perfect but better than the rest you are starting to get sweaty again FM your beloved cons are about to be consigned to the history books. KW This is like the comment about B & Q failing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Its only a two horse race if we back the same two horses. Go nige! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I wouldnt want UKIP to win but would like them to scare the living daylights out of the other #######s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I wouldnt want UKIP to win but would like them to scare the living daylights out of the other #######s Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Its only a two horse race if we back the same two horses. Go nige! so thats the red horse then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 The most daunting thing for the majority of the human race is change, so reading the comments on here its ringing true. People dare not change the way things have been for so long, they dont like it. Yet those very people are the first in the Queue to winge about the government that gets voted in. Try something different, can they really be that bad, if they are then OK, you can say we tried. But then even thats too hard for some, trying that is. They are just happy doing what they have always done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Why would you vote for a party that cannot possibly win? A protest vote maybe? Its a pretty hollow protest if it lets the SNP in through the back door and it could just happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dougy, We have,whether we like it or not a 2 party system;perhaps a whole change to that would be better democracy...lovely theory.However in reality we have 1 month though to get Millband/Balls or incumbents...that is the reality of our choice.Politics has gone downhill,the professional politician has never worked/fiddles expenses/few are Statesmen etc.. and looks after number 1. 5 years ago we were very very close to being bust.Whilst PSBR has risen the economy has awoken/gdp is v healthy and employment,a vital element,is strong.....this creates the wealth that pays for stuff......you crack the economy apart and you can make all the damn promises you like you won't have the money or international respect to fund those promises..The wider world is a mess Putin is mad,Africa burns......Milliband v Putin? Balls v Merkel...I give the england football team more chance of winning something!!! Labour left a note at the treasury in 2010 saying ''all the money has gone''.......They would only repeat what they always do,..deter wealth creators/jobs,smash our credit rating,whack interest rates up and fill us up with more PFI/off book debt.....we cannot afford to go there again. Never been that bothered by politics but I truly think this is the most important election of our generation......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I am happy to state that i am happy with the current government. I fail to see what else they could do, you cannot change immigration overnight and turn back 13 years of mismanagement in 5. They set off with the best of intentions Dougy, We have,whether we like it or not a 2 party system;perhaps a whole change to that would be better democracy...lovely theory.However in reality we have 1 month though to get Millband/Balls or incumbents...that is the reality of our choice.Politics has gone downhill,the professional politician has never worked/fiddles expenses/few are Statesmen etc.. and looks after number 1. 5 years ago we were very very close to being bust.Whilst PSBR has risen the economy has awoken/gdp is v healthy and employment,a vital element,is strong.....this creates the wealth that pays for stuff......you crack the economy apart and you can make all the damn promises you like you won't have the money or international respect to fund those promises..The wider world is a mess Putin is mad,Africa burns......Milliband v Putin? Balls v Merkel...I give the england football team more chance of winning something!!! Labour left a note at the treasury in 2010 saying ''all the money has gone''.......They would only repeat what they always do,..deter wealth creators/jobs,smash our credit rating,whack interest rates up and fill us up with more PFI/off book debt.....we cannot afford to go there again. Never been that bothered by politics but I truly think this is the most important election of our generation......... Well put. As has been said before, you do make the poor richer by making the rich poorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Why would you vote for a party that cannot possibly win? A protest vote maybe? Its a pretty hollow protest if it lets the SNP in through the back door and it could just happen! Any party CAN win if they get enough votes, the problem is getting enough disinterested and demoralised voters to get out and vote. What was the turn out at the last election? 60% at best? If just half of those non voting people voted UKIP this time we could say goodbye to Labour, farewell to Conservatives and get lost to the Limp Damps. The problem is getting voters to actually take their rights seriously. They're quick enough to whinge and moan after the event but can't get off their backsides and away from the telly. Pathetic really. Apathy just recreates the same 2 parties every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think a lot forget about the LibDem Albatross that has hung round the Tories neck for 5 years. Personally I'd like to see a Tory/Ukip coalition just to remind the Tories who they are. I like your thinking. I hope Nige knocks 'em out tonight on the box. Not literally but figuratively speaking you understand. http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/dhsjcf/the-itv-leaders-debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexikia Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 no. No. waste of a vote, only 2 parties in this election. Do we really want a Labour / SNP coalition? We will end like Greece. Conservatives are the only party offering a stable GB and I am a working class Labour supporter usually. Living in Sheffield, I can still remember the Thatcher years but get over it and see the light at the end of the tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 You can be like FM scared of change and carry on voting for your beloved tories believing they are still capable of great things,but lets be honest they are a bunch of buffoons Or you can do what generations of your family have done and vote labour,if you do you get an idiot in millipede and a simpleton in balls and a party that will ruin the country. Wake up it is time for change,if you blindly carry on because you are scared of change like FM then you will get more of the same rubbish you have been complaining about for so many years.Vote UKIP ,vote for a fresh voice and a party not afraid to speak out,lets change the system,it is our parliament lets make it work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Genuine question; assuming that UKIP are not going to gain an overall majority, are definite UKIP voters saying that some kind of aforementioned SNP/Labour nightmare (if it happened, or some other lame equivalent) would be worth it for them, for the life of the next parliament? I have nothing against voting with your convictions, I'm just asking. Edited April 2, 2015 by Thunderbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 You can be like FM scared of change and carry on voting for your beloved tories believing they are still capable of great things,but lets be honest they are a bunch of buffoons Or you can do what generations of your family have done and vote labour,if you do you get an idiot in millipede and a simpleton in balls and a party that will ruin the country. Wake up it is time for change,if you blindly carry on because you are scared of change like FM then you will get more of the same rubbish you have been complaining about for so many years. Vote UKIP ,vote for a fresh voice and a party not afraid to speak out,lets change the system,it is our parliament lets make it work again. Oh dear oh dear....I knew it was a mistake building those two bridges over the Severn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Vote UKIP ,vote for a fresh voice and a party not afraid to speak out,lets change the system,it is our parliament lets make it work again. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Don't believe the lies that other party's such as Labour and Conservative and media are saying about UKIP. From now until election day (Thursday 7th May) UKIP will be releasing video's stating there policies and reasons why you should vote them in. If you only ever vote once in your life but you want change, this is the year for you to vote and vote UKIP for your local council, UKIP for you parliamentary candidate and UKIP for your government. UKIP for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Oh dear oh dear....I knew it was a mistake building those two bridges over the Severn. And they tell a story, the original was built by the British, Sir William Arrol & Co., Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Company and Dorman Long) in 1963, and completed in 1966. The second was built by A company called Severn River Crossing plc, led by John Laing plc and GTM-Entrepose,Which was mainly french and who still control it. A once great engineering country slowly stripped of it's ability to do what it once was the best in the world at,now we are a country of commerce and it and rely on other countries to build our infrastructure. You harp on about our construction industry suffering if we vote UKIP and get to leave the eu but the truth is our construction and engineering base has been decimated over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Genuine question; assuming that UKIP are not going to gain an overall majority, are definite UKIP voters saying that some kind of aforementioned SNP/Labour nightmare (if it happened, or some other lame equivalent) would be worth it for them, for the life of the next parliament? I have nothing against voting with your convictions, I'm just asking. I doubt anyone would think it is worth it, but how are the conservatives otherwise going to realise that people only voted for them to keep labour out? There is no nationwide poll following an election in which any party asks why the electorate voted the way they did, and thereby discover that the electorate only voted for them to keep another party out, and even if there was they wouldn't care as long as they'd won. No party would ever admit they were elected in such a way and will simply claim people voted for them because they wanted to, and will therefore carry on as before. The only way to send a message to any party is to vote for the party you want . Protest votes count for nothing if the party you're protesting about gets in. The best way to protest is to vote for the party you want. Nothing else makes sense. Voting for a party as the better of two evils just simply isn't logical to me. If you want change, then vote for it. At least I'll be content in the knowledge if either labour or the tories get in, I didn't vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Genuine question; assuming that UKIP are not going to gain an overall majority, are definite UKIP voters saying that some kind of aforementioned SNP/Labour nightmare (if it happened, or some other lame equivalent) would be worth it for them, for the life of the next parliament? I have nothing against voting with your convictions, I'm just asking. I think it would be fair to assume that UKIP wont even gain enough MP's to fill a family saloon car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 And they tell a story, the original was built by the British, Sir William Arrol & Co., Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Company and Dorman Long) in 1963, and completed in 1966. The second was built by A company called Severn River Crossing plc, led by John Laing plc and GTM-Entrepose,Which was mainly french and who still control it. A once great engineering country slowly stripped of it's ability to do what it once was the best in the world at,now we are a country of commerce and it and rely on other countries to build our infrastructure. You harp on about our construction industry suffering if we vote UKIP and get to leave the eu but the truth is our construction and engineering base has been decimated over the years. What a load of inane twaddle...cant you ukippers come up with something new to bleet about?. British Construction Industry leads the world and has never been in better shape.. If you want to vote for UKIP that's your prerogative...but I can save you a trip on the morning...just flush your polling card down the toilet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What a load of inane twaddle...cant you ukippers come up with something new to bleet about?. British Construction Industry leads the world and has never been in better shape.. If you want to vote for UKIP that's your prerogative...but I can save you a trip on the morning...just flush your polling card down the toilet... Oh FM take the rose tinted glasses off,we are not as Great Britain as we once were,and British construction does not lead the way despite what you might think and say. Stop living in a bubble where everything was great and Maggie would tell them straight,your beloved tories are run by faceless men who rely on polls and statistics to decide their every move,and no one is prepared to take that risk anymore.Vote tory and get more of the same, vote labour and get more ruination ,you carry on believing,one day you may wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 We do not need a European Union for the sake of trade. In the 70's Edward Heath did what he thought was right so lets respect that. These days there are so so many knackered countries in the EU that produce NOTHING other than a bit of revenue from tourism. Germany, UK, France (maybe?) are propping all the skint countries up. We should do more trade with the USA, China, Indonesia. The world is the place to sell and buy not just ****ty europe where you can't get what is needed. We can draw up trade agreements easy peasey once we get the hell out of this political clap trap Euro ********. Nige can see the opportunities and won't pander to those that like it the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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