.17 richochet

[la bala]

Little bit of a survey boys, how many of you have had richochets with your HMRs. I live in the flat lands and am still undecided about buying one. I use a .22 rimfire at moment, so i know the pitfalls of that round. Thanks for your comments

[fenboy]

WE have got through a awful lot when I have been out lamping with Fenny and I cannot recall a single richochet , they are a very frangiable round with their ballistic tips so the chances are much slimmer, the drawback is the extra crack over the 22

[bluesj]

yes I've had one (that i can remember). It can happen with any round, but still safer in that respect than a .22. If your shot is safe in the event of a miss you'd be unlucky to have a ricochet causing harm. I've just sold my 17 in favor of another 22 as I use the 22 a lot more than i did the 17

[tweedledee]

Have both mach 2 and hmr.would never touch 22 again. My fac air will do the rest.

Have both mach 2 and hmr.would never touch 22 again. My fac air will do the rest.

[welshwarrior]

More richocetes happen than people think, fired 5 at a 1" board with a piece of steel foot behind for such a fargible bullet 4 went through and hit the steel.

Edited May 1, 2015 by welshwarrior

[Whitebridges]

I use quite a bit of .17HMR. 95% Hornady V-max and yes it does bounce but the bullet easily fragments. I don't evaluate a shot with a .17 any differently from the .22LR and make sure there is always a proper backstop.

 

There are some solid ( hollowpoint ) rounds such as the 20g CCI Gamepoint and i've had more zingers off the ground with these than any other .17HMR round.

 

Some of the ground I shoot on is full of flint, especially in the north of our county and sometimes the land is as flat as a witches tittie.

 

Occasionally there is something to be said against the fashionable head shot ( especially with the .22LR) . Often the .22 bullet will go through a rabbits scull hit the ground and then ricochet. Sometimes it is an idea to turn them and shoot them chest on. OK the bullet might end up near the tail but it can be safer if you are not bothered about the meat.

 

If there is a risk of a zinger the rules are simple, don't take the shot.

[malkiserow]

I had one that I heard

[Redgum]

Had a few, they do richochet.

[thepasty]

I've had a couple, no where near as bad as the 22lr tho.

[Zapp]

Yes, I've heard a few. I am a firm believer that the only reason people think 22lr is worse than any other calibre is because those ricochets aren't masked by the report of the gun and so we hear them. I shoot very flat land and am extremely selective about the angles I fire at for this reason.

 

Anyone who has been in the army will tell you about seeing streams of 5.56 and 7.62 tracer hitting purpose built sand banks on the butts of ranges and pouring out all over the place.

[rich1985]

Had 1 with HMR and countless amounts with 22lr, sold my 22Lr as I love the 17hmr and don't get the ricochets like the 22.

[zx10mike]

if the ground is compact and dry you will still get a riicochet off a 17 hmr yes but no were near as bad as a 22lr they bounce of anything and everything.i won't give a 22lr a space in my cabinet .the advantages of a hmr are endless imo straighter shooting meaning a bad range call at night is not as likely.better accuracy.more frangible..... that said a guy who really knows his 22 rimy on the right ground for one is a force to be reaconed with.

[crowdie2013]

got mine last august and have put about 150 rounds through it without ricochet.

its a fantastic round and ideal for my land, Has accounted for 3 foxes, 50+ craws and some rabbeyes

[Konnie]

YES have had a few zingers of hard ploughing/summer ground too, but feel this will happen to any projectile fired through the air fast enough eventually.

[Dekers]

Several!

 

The solid/HP/20g seem the worst but it happens with them all.

[la bala]

Thanks for all your comments guys. Just a view of the backstops in Fenland.

[Salop Matt]

Bellow sea level too!

I've literarily just got back in from visiting my sister in Warboys. They have a farm in Warboys and Pidley, they use .22lr but myself I would use HMR. I've never knowingly had a HMR ricochet but have herd a single one when out with my mate but that's one in hundreds/thousands of rounds!

Edited May 4, 2015 by salop sniper

[kyska]

Loads, every time I shoot

[Zapp]

Have a watch of this, especially the non NV bits where the tracer appears in red on a dark background. It is a supersonic round, being fired at a much higher angle of attack to the ground than we are ever likely to achieve (unless we have a helicopter or the world's tallest high seat), so about as "safe" a backstop as you could wish for.

 

 

 

Again, I firmly believe that they all do it just as much as each other, we just dont hear them nearly as often with the noisy, supersonic stuff.

[bullet1747]

Yes, I've heard a few. I am a firm believer that the only reason people think 22lr is worse than any other calibre is because those ricochets aren't masked by the report of the gun and so we hear them. I shoot very flat land and am extremely selective about the angles I fire at for this reason.

Anyone who has been in the army will tell you about seeing streams of 5.56 and 7.62 tracer hitting purpose built sand banks on the butts of ranges and pouring out all over the place.

Had them spinning at my feet a few times in the butts

[Paul223]

I've literarily just got back in from busting my sister in Warboys!

Eh?

 

 

From Norfolk by any chance

[Salop Matt]

Eh?

 

 

From Norfolk by any chance

Thankfully no, don't you just love predictive text on a phone !

 

While VISITING though her fella did show be a utube clip of some yokel on a banjo type string instrument singing a song called "girl from the fens" or something like that which was funny !

[Guest stevo]

Have a watch of this, especially the non NV bits where the tracer appears in red on a dark background. It is a supersonic round, being fired at a much higher angle of attack to the ground than we are ever likely to achieve (unless we have a helicopter or the world's tallest high seat), so about as "safe" a backstop as you could wish for.

 

 

 

Again, I firmly believe that they all do it just as much as each other, we just dont hear them nearly as often with the noisy, supersonic stuff.

Totally agree . There All the same. Like you say you just tend not to hear the faster stuff so much. Also there normally a lot further away when they hit the ground than the. 22lr So again another reason for not hearing it zing. To think a bullet won't ricochet because it's too fast and fragible is just plane daft Imo. You just don't hear them.

[DIVERD]

I use segments in my .22, and now get far less richochets, although they do still happen. I have had a few whizz off with the HMR, and in the situations i used it it was not really ideal and i got rid of it. Some environments it is spectacular and in some it is not ideal, like every calibre.

 

I have occasionally had a 243 and even a 3006 ricochet, and this is really scary. It is not that i shoot hard or flat land, far from it, and normally you just hear the whizz before it thuds into the backstop, but that is a lot of fast lead and it is always a worry.

 

Re enforces the need for a sound back stop.

[LeadWasp]

Yup get .17 ricochets. We have a sandy clay that dries to a hard crust here and it is horrid for doing this. My .22 doesn't come out in dry periods so I use an air rifle instead. The .17 will still produce them but they are - I think - an exception rather than the rule.

Edited May 6, 2015 by LeadWasp