100milesaway Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Dave is a superb shot both on clay's and high fluffy things, and what makes him even more exceptional is that he is blind in one eye... A trueley remarkable talented chap. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Dave is a superb shot both on clay's and high fluffy things, and what makes him even more exceptional is that he is blind in one eye... A trueley remarkable talented chap. from Auntie. Interesting that Dave is blind in one eye, I've always shot with my right eye closed, left handed, as I'm right eye dominant. I also had corrective surgery for a left eye squint when I was younger, which I believe had an affect on my eye dominance. Many people over the years have told me that I'm putting myself at a disadvantage, one exception to this Tracey Riddington whom I've had a few lessons with, I've always shot that way is its how I feel the most comfortable, I don't consider myself to be a bad shot and I'm happy with my shooting. There are odd occasions however on the really long stuff where I'm giving the bird so much lead I struggle to see it in my peripheral vision. Its heartening to see someone blind in one eye shooting that those ranges, its doesn't appear to be the disadvantage some people would like me to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1983 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Another excellent video from Jonathan and Dave. Even featuring Sir Ian Botham this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Enjoyed that. Excellent quality filming as usual. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Very good , the beaters and pickers up will certainly be earning their money on that shoot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fielddweller Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 That's has got to be their best video yet. Superb shooting and photography Fielddweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I make no apologies for saying that I just do not get the fashion for 53 gram cartridges and shooting at birds at such a distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmb Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Wow he seemed to struggle with those birds! First time I have watched one of his videos and felt like he was shooting at birds that were out of even his range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I make no apologies for saying that I just do not get the fashion for 53 gram cartridges and shooting at birds at such a distance. I have to agree that I feel much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I make no apologies for saying that I just do not get the fashion for 53 gram cartridges and shooting at birds at such a distance. Me neither. I doubt I could handle or enjoy the recoil, but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippylawkid Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Got to admire the bloke's skill in consistently hitting and killing extreme range birds. His technique and mounting must be superb, otherwise he would be battered to bits with those shells. Not for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 to be fair that last video made me feel sad to be part of the shooting community , to many injured birds IMHO . as an average shot on game i would take greater respect seeing a stone dead bird a 60 yrds than a pricked bird at 100 + time and time again . not my ambassador for the sport Tin hat on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish77 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Really enjoy the films, appreciate it might not be to everyone's tastes. Steel shot on the beach drives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Really enjoy the films, appreciate it might not be to everyone's tastes. Steel shot on the beach drives? Oooh, now then............were they below the high-water mark? I'm not up to speed on steel shot regulations on the coastline without giving it a google, but I recall something about high-water marks or something to do with spring tides. No doubt someone will be along in a minute. Edited February 11, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 It's my understanding that only wildfowl are to be shot with non toxic regardless of were you are. So they would be fine shooting lead at pheasant and partridge even though they are standing on a shore line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I have to say, with regard to the last video posted, I don't know what the bag size was for that day nor how many guns there were in the line. But, there must have been a high cartridge to kill ratio - I base this on the fact his loader had to change cartridge bags halfway through the beach drive and he had two cartridge bags with him on the other drives The guns went back to their vehicles at the end of the drives, so I would presume they refill the cartridge bags in readiness for the next drive and they looked like big cartridge bags to me Just my views. Each to their own and that shoot is not for myself so i wouldn't pay for a day there. However if I was to get a free invite, its only a 4 hour drive away if your reading Mr Carrie or Sir Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Great footage from j mcg. Mr carries skill levels and consistency are outstanding and is a remarkable shot!the smoothness of his mount and swing. I would be thouroghly embarrased standing on a peg next to him me shooting 30/40 yarders and cursing missing the easy ones!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Oooh, now then............were they below the high-water mark? I'm not up to speed on steel shot regulations on the coastline without giving it a google, but I recall something about high-water marks or something to do with spring tides. No doubt someone will be along in a minute. As they were shooting game in England then they are fine to use lead as the lead ban is species specific , if they were duck coming off the cliffs then they would need to use steel , which is where the law is a ****. If they were shooting in Scotland then they would have to use steel as lead is banned from all wetlands / coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Really like the way his videos are put together, makes a big difference using a professional to film them obviously! Shooting wise he's obviously a much better shot than most but clearly gets a LOT of practice! Unbelievable amount of shooting that most could only dream of, I'd love to have that many opportunities at pheasants but have to say I'm not a huge fan either of the extreme shooting he does on that video.....difficult to see what he's shooting at most of the time so hard to tell but looks very inconsistent shots to kill wise, don't see that many fold up cleanly really but he's clearly making it hard for himself on purpose to pull off those odd spectacular shots! Didn't think Ian Botham came over that well on camera to be honest when talking about shooting/fieldsports. A day for the super rich indeed, what a way to spend your winters though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd agree with the bulk of the other comments. The presentation of high pheasants is fantastic - and a couple of the drives in the video showed that they can do that. But when you place the guns in a deep ravine or down the other side of a cliff and fly the birds over, it's not really a high bird shoot but a low gun shoot. Are they showing quality birds, or has it descended into a fascination with willy waving, just because the pheasants happen to be extreme distances from the guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd agree with the bulk of the other comments. The presentation of high pheasants is fantastic - and a couple of the drives in the video showed that they can do that. But when you place the guns in a deep ravine or down the other side of a cliff and fly the birds over, it's not really a high bird shoot but a low gun shoot. Are they showing quality birds, or has it descended into a fascination with willy waving, just because the pheasants happen to be extreme distances from the guns. The moderators should have a close look at the vernacular language in your second paragraph. I have been told off for much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 As they were shooting game in England then they are fine to use lead as the lead ban is species specific , if they were duck coming off the cliffs then they would need to use steel , which is where the law is a ****. If they were shooting in Scotland then they would have to use steel as lead is banned from all wetlands / coast This is how I thought it was, but I've just checked two different pieces of documentation regarding the use of lead shot, and both state that 'in England and Wales' lead shot cannot be used ( as well as several other sites ) 'on or over all areas below the high water mark'. I'm not seeking an argument, only clarification, as shooting on the foreshore doesn't effect me at all. I'm happy to believe they were above the high water mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 This is how I thought it was, but I've just checked two different pieces of documentation regarding the use of lead shot, and both state that 'in England and Wales' lead shot cannot be used ( as well as several other sites ) 'on or over all areas below the high water mark'. I'm not seeking an argument, only clarification, as shooting on the foreshore doesn't effect me at all. I'm happy to believe they were above the high water mark. You are correct and I am a Numpty , They may well be above the high water mark as it would be difficult to arrange the shoot days around the tides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) To be fair these shoots are for high bird shooters not for your average game shooter as you would stand out like a sore thumb, these shooter are some of the best in the country at what they do. Edited February 12, 2016 by E.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The law states that you cannot use lead for any speices below the high water mark in England and Wales. It looks from the video that the shots were taken from the beach. If you refer to the BASC directive it explains it all. To not comply with this law gives the anti shooting and anti lead brigade another stick to beat us with.Good shooting or not.,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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