Underdog Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Gentlemen, I'm afraid I'm still a bit confused, with loading backwards and turning in flight etc.? The fibre shot cup looks to me to be as if it should be loaded into the case, then filled with the requisite amount of shot. From the description and instructions to slit, I would guess that the cup would then act as a plastic wad does and open up where slit, banana skin like, (for want of a better description) My question, and it has been partially answered by the fact that the long range cartridge has an over shot element remains...... if the shot cup were filled, and not slit, would it act to hold the shot together slug-like? I apologise for my lack of understanding Regards Only one way to find out bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 And, I guess, that an over shot card and a touch of Resin W would seal the deal so to speak............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 And, I guess, that an over shot card and a touch of Resin W would seal the deal so to speak............. Safe environment for experiments !!!!!!! you could put the cup in backwards with and without slits Use caution as your guide 😚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 OF will you be using these monsters at the PW Charity shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Actually, I think that I will leave well alone and stick with known quantities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 OF will you be using these monsters at the PW Charity shoot? Cpsa rules mate shot bigger than 6 and ounce load So that's a no 😟 Sadly due to prior commitment won't be able to attend the charity shoot this year 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Oh no that must be a mistake, contact Teal and get a concession! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Each to their own. I don't really see the point of shooting songbirds. Is there any bird life left in Italy? Yup, each to their own ... we don't really see the point of shooting coloured poultry reared to be shot with. We don't call hunting a sport as there is no sport in killing, especially standing in suit and tie wating for someone else to do the job ... but hey ho ... if you'er having fun, why not! To answer your query: no, there aren't many birds in Italy, especialy since songbirds are migratory from northern countries to northern Africa so, italy is kind in the middle. Also, migrations are determined by a series of unforeseeable factors such as temperatures, food availability, winds, storms, turbolences & moon. Also, Italy is the country that has the biggest stretch of sea to cross to get to Africa, so, isn't in itself their favourite route. The Balkans and the the Iberian Peninsula are the ones you want to be to shot them. Italy is only marginally affected by the migration and only when winds and turbolence affect the 2 main routes so, yes, you have years of filling your boots and years you just watch the sky .... Migratory birds which, unfortunately have become resident, such as starlings cause many deaths every year: they live in their millions in cities and when it rains their faeces are both dangerus for motorbike drivers and corrosive for monuments. When they leave the cities to feed, they will go through an olive tree in a matter of minutes, with each starling taking 3 olives at the time; yet, we're not allowed to shoot them.... Oh, yeah, BTW, the migratory routes that affect the south of Europe (Russian confederations countries) aren't affecting the UK (Scandinavian Countries), so, if there is a decline in UK songbirds, you better look at your own practices ... and study a little before judging .... but i don't think this is part of the politically correct culture in UK is it?? Thanks Also, we all eat songbirds, not sell them (it's illegal to sell game unless reare in captivity), but what do we know about cooking?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 And so said the, “Pot to the Kettle”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) So a thread six pages long on 100 meter cartridges with lots who think they are a good idea. Have any of you bought any and if you have what do you think of them? Edited February 7, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm proberably the only one They have a place not for everyone or everything and as I've said on numerous occasions the 60 meter version is better for me Sadly there has been a lot said that is basicly speculation and or guessing Personally don't think cheddite would bother if there wasn't a fair market for them All the best Of Anyone tried the 53 gramm turkey loads 😚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 "such as starlings cause many deaths every year: they live in their millions in cities and when it rains their faeces are both dangerus for motorbike drivers and corrosive for monuments." A while back there was a TV programme about this. The damage caused was horrendous. I think that might have been somewhere in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Pull the heads off starlings as soon as they are shot, for a better taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Pull the heads off starlings as soon as they are shot, for a better taste.Really! Will have to try that.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 "such as starlings cause many deaths every year: they live in their millions in cities and when it rains their faeces are both dangerus for motorbike drivers and corrosive for monuments." A while back there was a TV programme about this. The damage caused was horrendous. I think that might have been somewhere in Italy. Rome, most likely ... i fell 3 times when I was living there, once the moped ended up under a bus ... many aren't that lucky but alas, nobody gives a '****' ... literally. The government prefers spending millions in so called deterrents which only help shifting them from one side to another till they return (usually within 2 days); they also prefer to pay for cleaning monuments every 6 months as they get financial help from the European Community for sticking to the letter of the (so called)conservation law I used to skin them when i could shot them, far easier than pluck then and much tender and succulent stewed with a bit of tomato sauce and poured over warm polenta ... those were the days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Yup, each to their own ... we don't really see the point of shooting coloured poultry reared to be shot with. We don't call hunting a sport as there is no sport in killing, especially standing in suit and tie wating for someone else to do the job ... but hey ho ... if you'er having fun, why not! To answer your query: no, there aren't many birds in Italy, especialy since songbirds are migratory from northern countries to northern Africa so, italy is kind in the middle. Also, migrations are determined by a series of unforeseeable factors such as temperatures, food availability, winds, storms, turbolences & moon. Also, Italy is the country that has the biggest stretch of sea to cross to get to Africa, so, isn't in itself their favourite route. The Balkans and the the Iberian Peninsula are the ones you want to be to shot them. Italy is only marginally affected by the migration and only when winds and turbolence affect the 2 main routes so, yes, you have years of filling your boots and years you just watch the sky .... Migratory birds which, unfortunately have become resident, such as starlings cause many deaths every year: they live in their millions in cities and when it rains their faeces are both dangerus for motorbike drivers and corrosive for monuments. When they leave the cities to feed, they will go through an olive tree in a matter of minutes, with each starling taking 3 olives at the time; yet, we're not allowed to shoot them.... Oh, yeah, BTW, the migratory routes that affect the south of Europe (Russian confederations countries) aren't affecting the UK (Scandinavian Countries), so, if there is a decline in UK songbirds, you better look at your own practices ... and study a little before judging .... but i don't think this is part of the politically correct culture in UK is it?? Thanks Also, we all eat songbirds, not sell them (it's illegal to sell game unless reare in captivity), but what do we know about cooking?? At least you get a decent meal out of a pheasant. You'd have to wrap a songbird in a pork chop to make it worth the bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Does any of this matter as the cartridges dont seem to be sold in the uk anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosthunter Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Does any of this matter as the cartridges dont seem to be sold in the uk anymore. You can get them from Malmo guns, the cheddite importer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Really! Will have to try that. Thanks They're supposed to taste bitter if they are not bled. I shot 7 once with one shot from a .410 and that's what my mother had told me to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 They're supposed to taste bitter if they are not bled. I shot 7 once with one shot from a .410 and that's what my mother had told me to do with them.😀 good for you bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Put an oxo cube inside is what a couple of old shooters told me. That's what they used to do as children, shoot as many as they could pluck or skin them and push a oxo inside then put them in the oven to cook, both said they were very nice. Edited February 8, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I tried a starling in the seventies, tasted ok but nowt great. Smelt like chicken when it was cooking..never had one since though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Lol this is funny. So we have long range specialist shotgun ammo now and we are exchanging stodger recipes 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Lol this is funny. So we have long range specialist shotgun ammo now and we are exchanging stodger recipes 😂😂😂😂😂Cracks me up 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 We've see photo's of breakdown of the 100 meter cartridge.I assume the 60 meter one must be loaded on a different principle .Dipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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