rodp Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 This will be interesting, especially when it knocks a cyclist off because as we all know they're a very chilled and calm mob http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35511980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 The manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 The manufacturer. Or the person inside it ? Who would be classed as "in charge"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 If it's a malfunction of the car then surely it's the manufacturers fault as the person inside isn't doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I believe there are different stages of 'driverless' cars, at one end the driver is fully responsible (the same as a tractor driver using auto steer)the top end (the google car) the driver has no responsibly. It is an interesting concept and it is truly the future (as long as you can be driven whilst drunk, by a self driving car). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I believe there are different stages of 'driverless' cars, at one end the driver is fully responsible (the same as a tractor driver using auto steer)the top end (the google car) the driver has no responsibly. It is an interesting concept and it is truly the future (as long as you can be driven whilst drunk, by a self driving car). To drive you home drunk it would have to be totally autonomous , any emergency stop buttons would mean you are still in control and not drunk. SO how many accidents / death will we accept to tweak the software ? Most human drivers are good at adapting to unusual situations . The robot cars would/could only be used on nice safe pre surveyed routes so it could not bring you back from the pub. I can't see it coping with a busy city centre on match day , a human driver would drive slowly along predicting when pedestrians would step out . Metal mickey's AI is just not up to that yet ( and for quite a while) This predicting the real would is the great challenge for artificial intelligence at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Phones often can't get predictive texting correct So I don't reckon they've got a chance with predictive driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Phones often can't get predictive texting correct So I don't reckon they've got a chance with predictive driving. This is so true,The bloke who invented predictive text died this week. His funfair is next monkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 The person inside will always be "in charge" of the vehicle and there lies the answer. They will also still be liable for any damage or injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 It will not work....well not on today's roads, maybe in another 50 years when all cars are controlled by computers and AI is capable of anticipating danger and avoiding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 This will be interesting, especially when it knocks a cyclist off because as we all know they're a very chilled and calm mob http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35511980 Obvious answer. It will be the cyclists fault. It will always be the cyclists fault. Can't believe this question even got asked. Cyclist ARE to blame for all negative happenings in the world. Ps. I'm not a cyclist. I like V8's too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 +1 to that. I just wish our pals in blue would just get out there and have a week on cyclists! Any infringement of the highway code dragged up in front of the courts. I am sorry but such a huge proportion of them totally ignore the highway cose and them when something goes wrong it is anybody elses fault. They need to know they are not above the law. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 This is so true,The bloke who invented predictive text died this week. His funfair is next monkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 To drive you home drunk it would have to be totally autonomous , any emergency stop buttons would mean you are still in control and not drunk. SO how many accidents / death will we accept to tweak the software ? Most human drivers are good at adapting to unusual situations . The robot cars would/could only be used on nice safe pre surveyed routes so it could not bring you back from the pub. I can't see it coping with a busy city centre on match day , a human driver would drive slowly along predicting when pedestrians would step out . Metal mickey's AI is just not up to that yet ( and for quite a while) This predicting the real would is the great challenge for artificial intelligence at the moment. not entirely correct im afraid.... Audi have been running with a piloted driving concept for the last 15 years, and have made ungodly advances in the way it all works. their fleet of RS7's make the Google car look stupid... see here: http://www.audi.com/content/com/brand/en/vorsprung_durch_technik/content/2014/10/piloted-driving.html the cars can think for themselves, even in racing situations, and make judgements and corrections a damn sight faster than most humans ever could. the AI reads the road situations through camera's and GPS, even taking in to account how many pedestrians are about and how far away from the car they are at any given time. traffic negotiations are a doddle.... the second video on the link shows 'bobby' doing a hot lap of the hockenheim circuit at full race speed. I was lucky enough to be there for this (at Audi's expense) and was taken out in the car around the track. every manufacturer there was amazed by what it could do. the tech is here, and works, but lawmakers are still unsure how to regulate for it. that's where the issue lies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 How do you ask it for its Driving Licence and insurance.?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 google cant even get their phones working right, and they have been around a very long time. so hows this gimmick going to be any different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 This is so true,The bloke who invented predictive text died this week. His funfair is next monkey. Nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 And when it crashes, who's liable? In this specific case that will be entirely down to the contract negotiated between the manufacturer and TFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 To be fair, 99% of the cars round here already drive like the owner has no idea what its doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Same in Bradford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Apparently driverless cars don't work in the rain as it confuses the radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klatuveradanikto Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 just made the missus spit her tea out with that one :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Wonder if they can be hacked like the fly by wire cars ? Could make for an interesting ride to town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Some news from America on the driverless car. Federal Government Will Treat Google’s Driverless Car System as a Legal Driver http://recode.net/2016/02/09/federal-government-will-treat-googles-driverless-car-system-as-a-legal-driver/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter So if Google`s system is now the driver and they are seen as the legal driver. Does that mean the owner would only require fire and theft insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 oops http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35692845 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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