guzzicat Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Aberdeenshire Council has given retrospective planning permission for an illegal site of permanent buildings next to St Cyrus nature reserve.The world has gone mad! A house built there( you would never get planning permission ) would be worth a fortune, but ****** get it for nowt! next they will be complaining about legal goose shooting ( or joining in illegally.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 we got one around here. How are they travelers if they have permanent pitches, answers it's own question if you ask me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 There are a few sites in the Widnes/Runcorn area .... and they still park up on private land making a nuisance of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The majority of Aberdeenshire Council are SNP so they will have to justify their decision to the voters eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I can only assume that the council gave consent because it fulfills one of their housing requirements without costing them anything. The same happens across the UK because councils have a requirement to provide sutible temporary sites for travellers (quite rightly in my opinion), usually with electricity, toilets, fresh water etc, and that costs money - not to mention the difficulty in finding land to build them. If a group of travellers owns the land and had done the work themselves then it's a no brainier for the council, especially when money is tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Aberdeenshire Council has given retrospective planning permission for an illegal site of permanent buildings next to St Cyrus nature reserve.The world has gone mad! A house built there( you would never get planning permission ) would be worth a fortune, but ****** get it for nowt! next they will be complaining about legal goose shooting ( or joining in illegally.) Any river keepers on the North Esk will probably be working lots of overtime now then! Every cloud eh!...................... Edited April 28, 2016 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I've a community near me at Redmires Reservoir,they get a pretty bad press but unfairly in my opinion. Anything goes missing and the finger gets pointed at them. Admittedly I wouldn't let them prune my trees or tarmac my drive but they all have waste transfer licences now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Travellers ? on a permanent site ,bit of a contradiction there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I've a community near me at Redmires Reservoir,they get a pretty bad press but unfairly in my opinion. Anything goes missing and the finger gets pointed at them. Admittedly I wouldn't let them prune my trees or tarmac my drive but they all have waste transfer licences now! As I said if you wanted to live where they are putting down their roots how much would it cost you? They only pick the good spots & they don,t travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 As I said if you wanted to live where they are putting down their roots how much would it cost you? They only pick the good spots & they don,t travel. There's a council run site a few miles from me, it's sandwiched between a busy A road and a very busy waste recycling plant. Most of the privately owned ones I see are not on 'good spots' - I'm not saying it's right but sweeping generalisations like that are just lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 A permanent travellers site is a contradiction of terms. Especially as most of them own big farms back in Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 A permanent travellers site is a contradiction of terms. Especially as most of them own big farms back in Ireland. Is that tongue in cheek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Are we talking gypsies tinkers romani people here, if so why would they leave 10 bedroom houses with land to cobble dogs with, to live on sites. Gypsies dont run around in rotted out transits any more they have Range rovers Mercedes luxury cars etc, times have changed from the little old romani lady selling gold panted lead trinkets and sharpening cuttlery for threepence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 In a former life my job was to move them from council land. Not the most pleasant job. The human waste left in a factory unit was ..........not nice. I live in the country now and last year a couple of horse drawn wagons pulled onto the common. They were two families with houses in the Black Country on holiday in these wagons. They were really nice and explained how they had gypsies throwing stones at them at Weston so they had decided to travel back via the country and it would take them a week to get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Bit of no win situation then, let them travel around the Country illegally setting up camp or allow them a permanent place to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 In a former life my job was to move them from council land. Not the most pleasant job. The human waste left in a factory unit was ..........not nice. I live in the country now and last year a couple of horse drawn wagons pulled onto the common. They were two families with houses in the Black Country on holiday in these wagons. They were really nice and explained how they had gypsies throwing stones at them at Weston so they had decided to travel back via the country and it would take them a week to get back. I've made the bow tops for quite a few of these wagons from the Black Country and these people work and live in houses. They make the wagons and use them just to keep the history alive. Nice wagons, sociable folk. Stop and have a word next time you see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've made the bow tops for quite a few of these wagons from the Black Country and these people work and live in houses. They make the wagons and use them just to keep the history alive. Nice wagons, sociable folk. Stop and have a word next time you see them. They parked next to my place and I gave them some eggs and had a chat. They were nice people and showed me their wagons quite ingenious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 We have a large recycling centre near us which has been a bone of contention for near residents. However when lease was almost up the alternative was a gypsy site - guess what? It has remained a recycling centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 There used to be one of these residential pitch sites at Basingstoke until the cops raided it....no end of stolen property and a shotgun recovered. The council closed it down. Some of the above replies are getting authentic gypsies mixed up with the tinkers and thieves we see who park up for a month or so on land they don't own then leave, after dark normally, a load of rubbish and gas bottles for others to clear up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Aberdeenshire Council has given retrospective planning permission for an illegal site of permanent buildings next to St Cyrus nature reserve.The world has gone mad! A house built there( you would never get planning permission ) would be worth a fortune, but ****** get it for nowt! next they will be complaining about legal goose shooting ( or joining in illegally.) If they don't pay Council Tax they should be entitled to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotguneddy Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 They parked next to my place and I gave them some eggs and had a chat. They were nice people and showed me their wagons quite ingenious. +1 People should give them a chance some of them are nice people and some ain't no different to non travelers in my eyes people only listen to the bad things said about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 The point I made was they had built permanent houses next to a local nature reserve & Aberdeenshire council just rolled over & accepted it. i have np problems with travellers as such,but planning laws are there for a reason, no one else would have got away with building houses in a sensetive area, why should they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotguneddy Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Where I live they just built 5 bedroom house on a lovely bit of land to, no planning permission that's the way they operate, no tax no consentl they just do it and these lovely places soon become destroyed we have to bite our tongues and accept it, wrong I no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 But if you complain, they use the law they have so little regard for to whine about "racism". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 We get them pulling in at work and first thing they ask is have you them papers ?. They know they have up to a week to move on ,nobody would mind them stopping off and moving on but its the mess they leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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