culling canada geese

[mark1206]

just after a bit of advice.

I have been asked to get rid of some Canada geese on a carp fishing lake.

am I right in thinking I can do this under the general licence on health and safety grounds due to carpers sleeping and cooking and eating on the bankside.

the mess on the bankside is getting bad and more are turning up weekly.

it is the owner of the lake that has requested this.

I need to be sure of the law on this one as there is a footpath runs behind the lake which lots of walkers use.

if this is correct I would still try to pick a quite time to minimise any complaints.

thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions.

 

[Scully]

This has been covered many times on PW; it may be worth doing a search.

[6.5x55SE]

just after a bit of advice.

I have been asked to get rid of some Canada geese on a carp fishing lake.

am I right in thinking I can do this under the general licence on health and safety grounds due to carpers sleeping and cooking and eating on the bankside.

the mess on the bankside is getting bad and more are turning up weekly.

it is the owner of the lake that has requested this.

I need to be sure of the law on this one as there is a footpath runs behind the lake which lots of walkers use.

if this is correct I would still try to pick a quite time to minimise any complaints.

thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions.

 

Well I've Carp fished for some of the largest Carp in the UK and NEVER EVER had a problem with Geese. Tufted Ducks and Coots diving on bait Yes but even these can be put of with effort.

As for You or indeed anybody wanting to shoot them with young is beyond me .

Also WHY do the likes of you post things like this on the Internet !!!!!!! If you don't know the Law then ask eg BASC or do you ask these questions just to stir up forum members !!!!!

If I was the Mods of this site I would delete Threads as yours asap

[Scully]

I rather think the OP is meaning the mess made by the Geese, hence the health and safety statement, rather than them actually interfering with the act of fishing.

These threads always generate brusk responses from those who regard Canadas as sporting birds and those who regard them as pests ( which is why I advised the OP to do a search ) whereas the truth is in fact that any wild species causing damage or doing harm at an unacceptable level becomes a pest, and that includes everything from Hares and Deer to Mice and Rats.

There is no close season on pest species in the UK as far as I'm aware, and in my opinion nor should there be.

[rodp]

I rather think the OP is meaning the mess made by the Geese, hence the health and safety statement, rather than them actually interfering with the act of fishing.

These threads always generate brusk responses from those who regard Canadas as sporting birds and those who regard them as pests ( which is why I advised the OP to do a search ) whereas the truth is in fact that any wild species causing damage or doing harm at an unacceptable level becomes a pest, and that includes everything from Hares and Deer to Mice and Rats.

There is no close season on pest species in the UK as far as I'm aware, and in my opinion nor should there be.

As above. As I understand it you have an established fishing lake and now Canada's have moved in causing a possible health problem. .......... Get rid of them.

[6.5x55SE]

As above. As I understand it you have an established fishing lake and now Canada's have moved in causing a possible health problem. .......... Get rid of them.

There is a wrong and right way of doing/dealing with problems asking on a open forum in my opinion is the wrong way.

So what if the Geese are eg Greylag !!!!!! And Yes i do know the Legal right way.

Also I've dealt/deal with out of season problems with Geese and Deer but Don't go posting it for all to see or feel the need to Shoot at every given opportunity.

[Jay_Russell]

On my perm with also have a 20 acre lake, 2 years ago we had nearly 350 Canada geese and 60 odd greylag. The amount mess left on the banks was horrendous. It also caused water quality issues. The geese also grazed on the adjoining fields and the level of damage being done increased to an unacceptable level. We would put rockets up twice a day which at first lifted them however after a short time they started to ignore it. So I was asked to start culling (greys in season) with a couple of others. We now have about 12 pairs of Canada geese and ten pairs of greylag. We now routinely collect the eggs which are sold or consumed by us. The damage to banks, water quality and crop damage has reduced enough now for it to be a nice balance for farmer nature and angler.

[Penelope]

The only trouble I have had with candas whilst carping has been when floater fishing on the odd occasion. A canada can eat a lot of mixers.

 

Well I've Carp fished for some of the largest Carp in the UK and NEVER EVER had a problem with Geese. Tufted Ducks and Coots diving on bait Yes but even these can be put of with effort.
As for You or indeed anybody wanting to shoot them with young is beyond me .
Also WHY do the likes of you post things like this on the Internet !!!!!!! If you don't know the Law then ask eg BASC or do you ask these questions just to stir up forum members !!!!!
If I was the Mods of this site I would delete Threads as yours asap

[johnphilip]

Well I've Carp fished for some of the largest Carp in the UK and NEVER EVER had a problem with Geese. Tufted Ducks and Coots diving on bait Yes but even these can be put of with effort.

As for You or indeed anybody wanting to shoot them with young is beyond me .

Also WHY do the likes of you post things like this on the Internet !!!!!!! If you don't know the Law then ask eg BASC or do you ask these questions just to stir up forum members !!!!!

If I was the Mods of this site I would delete Threads as yours asap

if there is a "MODS " place going on here i hope you never get it . i thought forums were to help people , not to belittle them .

[Rewulf]

if there is a "MODS " place going on here i hope you never get it . i thought forums were to help people , not to belittle them .

 

+1 Well over the top in my opinion.

[ShootingEgg]

When i was asked by a golf course that had 60 on one lake, i called natural england regarding the general licence, asked them if it would come under public health and public safety. They told me that it did and that i was within the law in regards to managing the population.

 

My advice to the OP would be to do this, talk to NE and ask them if you are within the terms of the gl regarding public health and public safety. Every person on here will have their own take/opinion on this matter and id think 95% of us are not qualified to answer the question.

 

Cheers

Edited May 26, 2016 by ShootingEgg

[6.5x55SE]

On my perm with also have a 20 acre lake, 2 years ago we had nearly 350 Canada geese and 60 odd greylag. The amount mess left on the banks was horrendous. It also caused water quality issues. The geese also grazed on the adjoining fields and the level of damage being done increased to an unacceptable level. We would put rockets up twice a day which at first lifted them however after a short time they started to ignore it. So I was asked to start culling (greys in season) with a couple of others. We now have about 12 pairs of Canada geese and ten pairs of greylag. We now routinely collect the eggs which are sold or consumed by us. The damage to banks, water quality and crop damage has reduced enough now for it to be a nice balance for farmer nature and angler.

Well done to me sounds to me like a level headed sensible approach Same a lot more are not like your self

[6.5x55SE]

Every person on here will have their own take/opinion on this matter and id think 95% of us are not qualified to answer the question.

Cheers

 

And that was my point about posting on a open Forum

[Muddy Funker]

Every person on here will have their own take/opinion on this matter and id think 95% of us are not qualified to answer the question.

Cheers

 

And that was my point about posting on a open Forum

 

There will also likely be dozens of people on this open forum that have faced exactly the same situation and could give an educated opinion/answer.

 

Surely the whole point of a forum is to share information and experience?

[CharlieT]

 

There will also likely be dozens of people on this open forum that have faced exactly the same situation and could give an educated opinion/answer.

 

Surely the whole point of a forum is to share information and experience?

 

Exactly.

 

And to the OP, Natural England have produced several information notices on the control of Canada Geese. These range from TIN 46, rounding them up when in the flightless moult to TAN 51, a guide to best practice for their control.

 

From the above you will see that there are very many options of culling open to you.

[andrewluke]

Canada geese can also be shot between sept 1st and january 31st

[steve_b_wales]

Canada Geese can be shot all year round, and can be taken using a rifle. This came from BASC when I asked them about it, because a farmer I know was having his crop virtually destroyed by them.

[Dunkield]

If I was the Mods of this site I would delete Threads as yours asap

 

Well you aren't - so calm down dear

[6.5x55SE]

Well you aren't - so calm down dear

First I'm not your " Dear " and calm down about what! !!!!

[andrewluke]

Canada Geese can be shot all year round, and can be taken using a rifle. This came from BASC when I asked them about it, because a farmer I know was having his crop virtually destroyed by them.

i know they can be shot all year round but some only seem to want to shoot them at breeding time and not bother at other times

[Scully]

i know they can be shot all year round but some only seem to want to shoot them at breeding time and not bother at other times

 

Pest control is carried out when needs be, irrespective of breeding seasons, and this is what some can't seem ( or don't want ) to understand. There is no logic in allowing pests to breed; the idea is totally ludicrous.

Pest controllers control pests whenever they are called on to do so, and may have no interest in wild fowling or any other type of 'sporting' shooting.

Shooting for sport isn't a necessity, whereas pest control is.

Edited May 26, 2016 by Scully

[CharlieT]

i know they can be shot all year round but some only seem to want to shoot them at breeding time and not bother at other times

Funny old world.

 

I, as a farmer and land manager find that most, if not all, crop/stock damage occures during the time of year when animals happen to breed and have young.

Are you really suggesting that pests should not be controlled during the time of year they cause most damage. Some land manager you'd make.

 

As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop.

[E.w.]

Funny old world.

 

I, as a farmer and land manager find that most, if not all, crop/stock damage occures during the time of year when animals happen to breed and have young.

Are you really suggesting that pests should not be controlled during the time of year they cause most damage. Some land manager you'd make.

 

As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop.

+ 1 I'm also a farmer and couldn't agree more.

[Rim Fire]

i know they can be shot all year round but some only seem to want to shoot them at breeding time and not bother at other times

dose this include Magpies/squirrels /pigeons /crows/rabbits/ fox and plenty of other pests

[scobydog]

On a new permission near me the farm gets about 150 to 200 canadas at a time, the farmer tried rope bangers, sending the dogs to scare them and driving over on his quad. When out culling the bunnies we got chatting and he didn't realise they could be culled all year round, he thought only sept to jan, anyway he said crack on and get rid of them so I will now do this using a rifle. I have no qualms about this as they are ruining his crops and causing a right mess, apparently they poop every 3 mins when eating and 70% of it is undigested grass, off 150 geese you can imagine the mess. As far as I am concerned i feel that I am doing a pest control job to help the farmer and nothing else and it is totally lawful so I have no problem doing it, if others have a problem with it that is tough.

 

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