Brexit - Merged Threads

[Vince Green]

Can anybody predict what will happen in the next 12 months? I don't think so!

 

I will tell you one thing though, if the Italian banking system collapses nobody will be talking about Brexit, they will be running around like headless chickens trying to find a way of dealing with that before it brings down the whole of the EU's banking system with it, we will be forgotten about,

 

And a lot of the remain camp will go very very quiet

Edited July 24, 2016 by Vince Green

[Gordon R]

Vince - got to agree. It is way too early - ask people in 5 years time. It might be a more realistic time frame.

 

I suspect the EU will look nothing like it is today.

[yod dropper]

On a continuum there is nothing to do with the EU at one end and everything to do with the EU at the other, a sore loser might say that anything other than nothing to do with the EU could be termed 'Brexit light'. Our position a year ago was somewhere along that line and will end up further along. Using just one or two of my IQs I can see that this bet is a one way affair - there will be trade with the EU and there will be movement of people, or, Brexit light = some form of consolation for remain and the chance to say 'I was right'.

Edited July 24, 2016 by yod dropper

[achosenman]

its looking less and less likely Brexit is actually going to happen, watch this space over the next 12 months Brexit light will slowly creep in, the EU dont want us to leave and the "grown ups" who actually run the country wont allow a group of "red necks" to rock the boat, we will see a gental amendment to the rules which will give us some control over immigration and sovereignty in exchange for the UK staying inside the economic union

I guess the real question is what makes you and your ilk belive the "rednecks" won't anihilate the "grownups" at the next GE if Brexit light is foisted upon us.

 

UKIP will be the blunt instrument we will use to force you remainers to comply with the majority's will.

 

FPTP will be easy compared to the PR system of the referendum.

[UKPoacher]

Can anybody predict what will happen in the next 12 months? I don't think so!

 

I will tell you one thing though, if the Italian banking system collapses nobody will be talking about Brexit, they will be running around like headless chickens trying to find a way of dealing with that before it brings down the whole of the EU's banking system with it, we will be forgotten about,

 

And a lot of the remain camp will go very very quiet

 

More likely that the ECB will print shed loads of money and buy the Italian bank's debts off in the same way they recently did with French banks. Do not underestimate the EU's ability to avoid self-destruction. The French voted not to accept the constitution, so they re-worded it and passed it anyway. Same with the Danes and Irish. No votes were overturned.

Edited July 24, 2016 by UKPoacher

[BRYAN3]

Guys.

Don't be too hard on Chrisjh.

He's trying to concentrate on playing with his toys on the lounge floor, hear what the grown-up visitors are saying and work his keyboard all at the same time.

Edited July 24, 2016 by BRYAN3

[chrisjh]

 

Chris what do you do for a living?

 

Simple question and as for your bet, I am not hiding behind my keyboard, I am considering your bet and whether I will accept it.

 

nothing special office admin, how about you ?

 

My name is Gordon. Your spelling, punctuation and grammar are poor.

 

Would you care to correctly address your question and perhaps re-phrase it, so that it makes sense?

 

tell me something I don't no

 

remind me what the question was again, in all seriousness I can see a situation where over the next 12 months and before we leave the EU the terms will change, I think that the EU need us more than we need them, this will encourage the EU to offer a watered down membership which keeps the UK in and contributing in exchange for tighter boarders open trade and control of our legislature, I think they will fudge Brexit so we leave but don't actually leave only move to a new position, its going to be a political fix what's being said in public but negotiated behind closed doors will be miles apart.

[Gordon R]

You think too much. Just accept the will of the people and stop clutching at straws, such as the Brexit Lite.

Speak to your chums at school and see if they understand why you are in denial.

 

 

this will encourage the EU to offer a watered down membership which keeps the UK in and contributing in exchange for tighter boarders open trade and control of our legislature, I think they will fudge Brexit so we leave

 

 

Oh dear.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Gordon R

[Bazooka Joe]

its looking less and less likely Brexit is actually going to happen, watch this space over the next 12 months Brexit light will slowly creep in, the EU dont want us to leave and the "grown ups" who actually run the country wont allow a group of "red necks" to rock the boat, we will see a gental amendment to the rules which will give us some control over immigration and sovereignty in exchange for the UK staying inside the economic union

 

Rednecks won...get over it...

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

nothing special office admin, how about you ?

 

 

 

I work in Facilities.

[12gauge82]

I think Chris may be right in as much as T May (pro EU), Johnson (deep down pro EU) would like the brexit 'light' option, the question is if the rest of the Tory party allow them to get away with it. One thing I believe is a certainty is if the Tory party allow them to get away with it, I don't believe the British people will in the next election.

[chrisjh]

 

 

I work in Facilities.

 

for a major company which sector Carillion or a Compass, I have worked for Vinci & GDF Suez in the past

Edited July 24, 2016 by chrisjh

[TIGHTCHOKE]

No, a very minor company.

[chrisjh]

do you enjoy it FM can be a bit of a thankless task you can get 100 complex things right and one minor slip and the worlds ends

[motty]

nothing special office admin, how about you ?

 

 

tell me something I don't no

 

remind me what the question was again, in all seriousness I can see a situation where over the next 12 months and before we leave the EU the terms will change, I think that the EU need us more than we need them, this will encourage the EU to offer a watered down membership which keeps the UK in and contributing in exchange for tighter boarders open trade and control of our legislature, I think they will fudge Brexit so we leave but don't actually leave only move to a new position, its going to be a political fix what's being said in public but negotiated behind closed doors will be miles apart.

You work in admin with grammar like yours? Jesus!

[Gordon R]

I think he might clean their offices. His grasp of the English language suggests he doesn't get near anything of importance.

[yod dropper]

yod dropper - for a tiny moment, I thought you had been talking to the same city people that chrisjh gets his informed opinion from.

 

I agree with your forecast. It could be that our Brexit is the catalyst that accelerates the demise of the EU.

 

Different city people.

 

They've talked of a global downturn for some months about concerns over profitability.

 

The EU will collapse. Read Norman Davies' book, Vanished Kingdoms: The History of Half-Forgotten Europe. A hefty heavy-weight read but well worth the effort, I highly recommend it.

 

I've staked my money on a UK economic surge in the medium term; I've put my money where my mouth is. It's going well so far.

Edited July 25, 2016 by yod dropper

[chrisjh]

I think he might clean their offices. His grasp of the English language suggests he doesn't get near anything of importance.

 

all this negativity gorden were you bullied as a child, didn't jilted john do a song for you LOL

Edited July 25, 2016 by chrisjh

[Scully]

I think he might clean their offices.

 

I know I shouldn't, but it's not often that something at 0730 on a Monday morning can make me laugh out loud.

[Gordon R]

all this negativity gorden were you bullied as a child, didn't jilted john do a song for you LOL

 

 

 

Continually spelling someone's name incorrectly - I'm sure a psychiatrist could explain that.

[Yellow Bear]

I think he might clean their offices. His grasp of the English language suggests he doesn't get near anything of importance.

No - he has said he has worked for Vinci and the like - my experience of the quality of the admin at the big construction groups like this is they all have a similar level to this, and many are arrogant "I am right regardless" types that have worked their way up from site gangers.

[Rewulf]

I think Chris may be right in as much as T May (pro EU), Johnson (deep down pro EU) would like the brexit 'light' option, the question is if the rest of the Tory party allow them to get away with it. One thing I believe is a certainty is if the Tory party allow them to get away with it, I don't believe the British people will in the next election.

 

Problem with this,and the EU know full well,is if a deal is done for us where we can dictate what we want to effectively stay in.

Everyone else will want a 'deal' resulting in chaos.

As Ive said before, the EU project is dead,it just doesnt know it yet.

[Danger-Mouse]

[Savhmr]

 

for a major company which sector Carillion or a Compass, I have worked for Vinci & GDF Suez in the past

 

And I was a director with several such major organisations. Last time I checked, none were experts on the economy, even if they do have a presence in the City . Most of the senior executives did though share a disdain of the average working man and were pretty arrogant (I guess that to reach their positions, they had to have a certain degree of ruthlessness). One of the reasons that I could no longer work with such people. Some were thoroughly decent human beings. Many were not.

 

The standard of grammar from the graduates joining such organisations has deteriorated shockingly over the past two decades, never mind the admin' staff.

Edited July 26, 2016 by Savhmr

[Gordon R]

I was talking to a few "city people" about the weather over the next few days. They were adamant it was going to be a heatwave.

I trust their judgement totally - after all they are "city people". :whistling:

 

PS - Danger Mouse - great photo.