Beaulydog Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Can someone who's had a shotgun ticket revoked reapply I was told that you had to wait 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think you have to appeal the revocation. Crown court job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Why was it revoked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 They can re-apply anytime, but their chances would appear to be slim or non-existent based on the scant detail provided. If you want a more informed answer, you would need to provide full details of the revocation and what has changed since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 water tends not to flow uphill, if you get my drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Revocation is done for a good reason and you would have to prove many things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 You need to approach BASC and take professions legal advise.This is the WRONG place to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 You need to approach BASC and take professions legal advise.This is the WRONG place to ask. The OP did actually ask for replies from anyone who'd had a SGC revoked. I guess he wanted to pick the brains of someone with first hand experience, not what we all may think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) The OP did actually ask for replies from anyone who'd had a SGC revoked. I guess he wanted to pick the brains of someone with first hand experience, not what we all may think. I agree,but who ever he is enquiring for will get a load of different answers(with a few asumptions thrown in ) and end up more confused.Or they can seek advise from BASC legal team (if member)or seek other professional advise. Edited June 29, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 A shotgun certificate can be revoked if the Police are of the belief that the person is unfit to be entrusted with a shotgun or for public safety . These can be any number of things, direct behaviour of the person, violence or failing to abide by the conditions or even by his association with persons of less disirable character. Any appeal must be made in Crown Court within 21 days and cannot be funded by legal aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 A shotgun certificate can be revoked if the Police are of the belief that the person is unfit to be entrusted with a shotgun or for public safety . These can be any number of things, direct behaviour of the person, violence or failing to abide by the conditions or even by his association with persons of less disirable character. Any appeal must be made in Crown Court within 21 days and cannot be funded by legal aid. Yes, we all know that but are you going to answer the OP's question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It would depend on why it was revoked in the first place. Your feo coming round and finding your gun on the kitchen table is a lot different to beating your wife or threatening someone with your gun. Both could lead to revocation but it's the circumstances of the revocation that matter. There's nothing to stop a revokee from applying again whenever he wants, whether he will be granted is a matter for the police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It would depend on why it was revoked in the first place. Your feo coming round and finding your gun on the kitchen table is a lot different to beating your wife or threatening someone with your gun. Both could lead to revocation but it's the circumstances of the revocation that matter. There's nothing to stop a revokee from applying again whenever he wants, whether he will be granted is a matter for the police Exactly this. I know of someone who left a gun out and had it stolen. He lost his SGC but was advised by the FEO to apply again after a year. Not sure if he`s been granted it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Funny he has never been and answered any questions since his original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Funny he has never been and answered any questions since his original post If you've got time to ask the question you've got time to thank people for answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 If you've got time to ask the question you've got time to thank people for answering.trouble is no one has answered his question . Just telling him what he most prob already knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 I know two people that have, and did leave it two years, then paid alot to get it back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 trouble is no one has answered his question . Just telling him what he most prob already knows. Gordon did in post 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Gordon did in post 4. And I asked a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 As Ozzy and Gordon both basically said : "It depends". Too little detail for anyone to say what your chances might be. If you come back on and post more details - in full, rather than drip-feeding it all in - then someone might be in a better position to tell you if you've got 2 chances - fat or slim - or if it's more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 My brother inlaw was denied his SGC on the grounds of not answering on a question on a driving matter he had forgot about he got caught speeding at 40 mph it was coming to an end after the 3 yrs thats why he forgot about it he never replied for anouther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 My brother inlaw was denied his SGC on the grounds of not answering on a question on a driving matter he had forgot about he got caught speeding at 40 mph it was coming to an end after the 3 yrs thats why he forgot about it he never replied for anouther Bloody hell that a bit much surely that don't make person unfit to hold a certificate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) My brother inlaw was denied his SGC on the grounds of not answering on a question on a driving matter he had forgot about he got caught speeding at 40 mph it was coming to an end after the 3 yrs thats why he forgot about it he never replied for anouther Bloody hell that a bit much surely that don't make person unfit to hold a certificate He lied on his application form. That, in itself, makes him untrustworthy. Question 13 : Have you been convicted of any offence (including speeding offences but not including parking offences or fixed penalty notices) or received a written caution ? If yes, give details of all (underlined) convictions, etc. Declaration for the form : ... I understand that it is an offence under Section 28A(7) of the Firearms Act 1968 to knowingly or recklessly make a false statement for the purpose of procuring a certificate, the maximum penalty for which is six months imprisonment and/or a fine ... Notes to the form: 13. You must not withhold information about any conviction (in bold on the form) This includes motoring offences (including speeding offences) ... So, unlike applying for a certificate when the points were 20+ years old, the points were still on his licence. So the police could reasonably say that he 'knowingly or recklessly made a false statement'. I'd say he got off lightly. They could have chosen to charge him, in which case he'd have potentially been looking at doing time. Edited July 1, 2016 by robbiep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 He lied on his application form. That, in itself, makes him untrustworthy. Question 13 : Have you been convicted of any offence (including speeding offences but not including parking offences or fixed penalty notices) or received a written caution ? If yes, give details of all (underlined) convictions, etc. Declaration for the form : ... I understand that it is an offence under Section 28A(7) of the Firearms Act 1968 to knowingly or recklessly make a false statement for the purpose of procuring a certificate, the maximum penalty for which is six months imprisonment and/or a fine ... Notes to the form: 13. You must not withhold information about any conviction (in bold on the form) This includes motoring offences (including speeding offences) ... So, unlike applying for a certificate when the points were 20+ years old, the points were still on his licence. So the police could reasonably say that he 'knowingly or recklessly made a false statement'. I'd say he got off lightly. They could have chosen to charge him, in which case he'd have potentially been looking at doing time. when i was caught speeding i was given a fixed penalty notice, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 When did he get rejected/first apply? I'm sure on my last application it said I had to list everything including spent/ fixed penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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