JD140 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hi bostonmick, Thanks for the response. Do you ever use them for pigeon/rough shooting or just mainly clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITCHF Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Take a look on Gunwatch or scroll through Private Gun Sales on here, I am selling my A400 Ex KO. It's mint and and priced to sell. Good Luck , Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Hi bostonmick, Thanks for the response. Do you ever use them for pigeon/rough shooting or just mainly clays? I only use them for a couple of semi auto competition's a year.normally 200 to 250 clays a day.my grandson uses them for a bit of hide shooting. I don't think you will be disappointed with one if you choose to buy. Hi bostonmick, Thanks for the response. Do you ever use them for pigeon/rough shooting or just mainly clays? I only use them for a couple of semi auto competition's a year.normally 200 to 250 clays a day.my grandson uses them for a bit of hide shooting. I don't think you will be disappointed with one if you choose to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Don't rush into buying. Do some more homework. Have a look around at a few different makes/models and trial/handle as many as you can. Once you have decided, wait a while, monitor Gun Watch and other online shops. You could pick up a very little used gun (still in warranty) for much less cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I have had a few semi autos and shot a lot more of other peoples. Depending on your budget and what you will use it for will depend on which one will be best suited to your needs. I now have a Benelli M2 and really like not having to strip it all the time to clean it especially after shooting big wildfowling loads. If i wanted one for pigeons and clays it would be a Benelli Super Sport. The softest shooting is the Beretta A400 with the kick off,best value is the Franchi Affinity with 7 year warranty. What matters most is what fits and what you like the feel and handling of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Benelli M2 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I've always said that if I wanted to spend money on a top quality semi-auto or pump it would be the Benelli M3; best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex gardener Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Again thanks for all the replies. Does anyone have any negatives about the Beretta A400 exel, or for that matter any positives? I really like the look of the gun and whilst I have handled one I haven't yet fired one, my local Gun dealer is lending me a used one to try. Having read up on this model a fair bit the only negative I can find (other than the action colour) is that some people feel the trigger weight is a bit much? Once again any light that van be shed would be very welcome! I used one last week, first time ever with a semi, second shot through it took a rocket propelled woodcock. The fit of the gun for me was amazing, it came up exactly how it should. It felt like cheating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I've got an A400 Xtreme Unico, it cycles anything from 24 gram to 64 gram carts, never had a jam. Also very soft recoil, however, I usually find myself reaching for the AL391. Bought my A400 mainly for wildfowl but it's equally good for any type of vermin shooting. Don't think you'll be disappointed with an A400 though. Very good IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I have a Beretta 303 and a 391. I use the 303 for clays, mainly sporting and skeet and the 391 for pigeon and Instruction work. If I had to choose one, it would be the 303. Of the 2 it is the easiest to clean, maybe a bit light ammo fussy but using 28 gram 70mm loads, it is faultless. The 391 will handle a wider range of ammo, including 21 and 24 grams, but takes twice as long to strip and clean and I end up looking like a chimney sweep. So unless you want to start doing Weddings at weekends buy the 300 or an inertia operated model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD140 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I've got an A400 Xtreme Unico, it cycles anything from 24 gram to 64 gram carts, never had a jam. Also very soft recoil, however, I usually find myself reaching for the AL391. Bought my A400 mainly for wildfowl but it's equally good for any type of vermin shooting. Don't think you'll be disappointed with an A400 though. Very good IMO. Would you say an A400 exes or a Xtreme Unico if I want to combine it for clays and pigeon shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD140 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Would you say an A400 exes or a Xtreme Unico if I want to combine it for clays and pigeon shooting? Are they both very, very similar except for the blue action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD140 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Don't rush into buying. Do some more homework. Have a look around at a few different makes/models and trial/handle as many as you can. Once you have decided, wait a while, monitor Gun Watch and other online shops. You could pick up a very little used gun (still in warranty) for much less cost. My local gunsmith says I'm better looking at Berettas as I need a round 15" LOP, Surprisingly he does seem to stock a lot of Berettas which may be his reason!!! Any suggestions for any other makes, bearing the LOP in mind, needing low recoil and wanting to use it for clays and pigeon shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1Nat2 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 As Westley said, buy the 303 for sale at the moment for £350 on here, bargain. I have 2, never fail to cycle anything from 24gm & above. The new Berettas have springs & stuff which are just **** collectors. All I would say is, be careful on barrel length. An auto has a longer action than an normal O/U so a 28" auto feels more like a 30 or 31" gun. I have a 28" multichoke barrel & a 26" fixed choke barrel. 26" is brilliant in a pigeon hide or even on the marsh. Happy hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandladdie Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Are they both very, very similar except for the blue action? Blue one is 3", xtreme is 3.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD140 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Thanks. As I have a shoulder issue the plan was the A400 for the KO system and as i'm probably going to be using it for dual purposes was seriously considering the 'Extreme Unico', which I'm guessing is the exact same animal as the 'Extreme'?? From my research (for what it's worth) the 'Exel' is just a clay gun, where as the Extreme can be multi-purpose. Plus I prefer the black and grey to the fake wood and blue! Anybody agree with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exudate Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Thanks. As I have a shoulder issue the plan was the A400 for the KO system and as i'm probably going to be using it for dual purposes was seriously considering the 'Extreme Unico', which I'm guessing is the exact same animal as the 'Extreme'? ? From my research (for what it's worth) the 'Exel' is just a clay gun, where as the Extreme can be multi-purpose. Plus I prefer the black and grey to the fake wood and blue! Anybody agree with this? Don't get hung up on the marketing. At the end of the day, they're all 12g shotguns, they can all break clays and kill live quarry. Buy whichever one 'feels' best to you when you shoulder it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD140 Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Don't get hung up on the marketing. At the end of the day, they're all 12g shotguns, they can all break clays and kill live quarry. Buy whichever one 'feels' best to you when you shoulder it. Don't get hung up on the marketing. At the end of the day, they're all 12g shotguns, they can all break clays and kill live quarry. Buy whichever one 'feels' best to you when you shoulder it. Good answer, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 The Benelli's have an awesome reputation and owning one of their pumps (SuperNova) I can see they build a good gun. If I had the cash I'd fancy a Benelli Vinci as to how niftily it takes down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyB Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I have an a400 unico without the kick off system. It really has very little recoil even with heavier loads. I dont think the ko system is necassary its just more to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I've got an A400 action which has been faultless after a few thousand rounds, all at pigeons.....soft shooting even though it's nice and light. It replaced an al391 and I do prefer it over that, lots easier to clean and seems to be less to go wrong. Nice looking gun for a semi auto but one of the top end price wise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Thanks. As I have a shoulder issue the plan was the A400 for the KO system and as i'm probably going to be using it for dual purposes was seriously considering the 'Extreme Unico', which I'm guessing is the exact same animal as the 'Extreme'? ? From my research (for what it's worth) the 'Exel' is just a clay gun, where as the Extreme can be multi-purpose. Plus I prefer the black and grey to the fake wood and blue! Anybody agree with this? I too have had a shoulder problem which ended with an operation. The result was I could no longer even lift my Miroku MK10, let alone shoot it. I had planned to use the 391 for clays and bits of pigeon shooting, post Op. That was in September last year. I just happened to be in the local gun shop when an almost unused 303 came in, still in the original cardboard box, I just had to buy it. It is a 28" multi choked barrel, sporter and weighs 7 1/4lbs. It went into my cabinet until April this year when I did a 100 bird Comp. at Hodnet. Fitted with a Briley extended I/C choke I managed a 75, which I was quite pleased with. That was with Hull Superfast cartridges. I have to say that I was quite tired by the end of the Comp, but this was due more to muscle ache than any shoulder problems. The only 'mod' other than the choke, is a Beretta 'gel' pad to fit the later 'field' models, but it fits straight onto the earlier 'sporter' models. It has a clip release, which saves taking screws out, should you need to remove the stock. Of course it also helps reduce recoil too. As already stated, it is far easier to keep clean and will do all that I require it to without any malfunction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I waited a long time for an early beretta 391 to come up. It's all I expected, it deals with everything I put through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty99 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Browning Maxus you can alter the length of pull to suit with the butt spacers (provided) a very good gun indeed I love mine.+1 for Browning Maxus I have a synthetic version, spacers easily give you 15 inch LOP, I have long arms and need the same LOP. 3.5 inch chambers with 30 inch barrel I use for geese, ducks, pigeons and occasionally clays. It is light, pointable and very durable. Cycles any loads 28g and above without any issues, may cycle lighter loads but not tried them. Taking it to Orkney next week on the geese, use it last year with 50g number 2s, devastating! Edited November 10, 2016 by Scotty99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeneebs Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 +1 for Browning Maxus I have a synthetic version, spacers easily give you 15 inch LOP, I have long arms and need the same LOP. 3.5 inch chambers with 30 inch barrel I use for geese, ducks, pigeons and occasionally clays. It is light, pointable and very durable. Cycles any loads 28g and above without any issues, may cycle lighter loads but not tried them. Taking it to Orkney next week on the geese, use it last year with 50g number 2s, devastating! i am up orkney next week be using my beretta urika best gun beretta made may be see you after all not that big a place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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