gaffertoo Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 I paid £25 to my rfd to post to north wales ,Valley Arms ,Ruthin and,,,and they are now they thinking of charging £35 to receave it ,,*** is that right ? .The chap uses the shop alot ,is that taking the p** or what. Not happy man here and the man who getting my gun is not aswell ,not good for us chaps.If I lived up there iI would never use them again ,thats £60 on top of the price of the gun *** ,,,,,,,,😡😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Fairly standard unless you are dealing with someone as good as Wabbitbosher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 I have to say that sounds the same as the quotes I got when doing the same - and that was for a non ticketed air rifle. Seems to be the going rate. The receiving fee is the one that bugs me. all they're doing is unpacking it and holding it until you show up to pick it up with the right ticket and I.D..Still, that's the game we all play alas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Mine charged £35 to send (£25 paper work and £10 for TNT) and £25 to receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 My local RFD said he has no fixed fee when I asked him, I've known him years though & spend well in there- shooting & fishing, he said about £10, but when I showed him what it was I was thinking of buying he advised me against it. From what I hear the cost varies quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Fieldsports Equipe in Rhyl seem much more reasonable. Bit late for your friend though. David. Edited November 15, 2016 by Kalahari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 I just done this and paid £25 each end. Cheaper than fuel in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 I paid £10 recently to recieve a rifle at Rifleman nr Taunton. Thing is, I then bought ammo with the money saved on the RFD fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Some of them don't realise the harm they are doing to their customer base by over charging customers. If they put the charges on a poster or list you would know at a glance whether to use them, when they don't show it and make up a price off the top of their heads you feel a bit peeved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Your pay for the dealers time dealing with the paperwork with other rfd courier and then as a customer, it all takes time and as we know time is money. A good regular customer often pays less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I actually think the prices are realistic- I mean, take the equivalent sized/weight parcel to the post office and ask to send it first class fully insured and see how much they want ( obv I'm not suggesting sending a rifle through the post but merely using it as an example) Now, in relation to the above- we know you must use a carrier that is prepared/able to transport firearms and so costs mount. So, the cost to receive at your locals RFD- they are not charities, you didn't provide them with a profit by buying a gun from them, their time and also responsibility for safe keeping of your new firearm all adds up. As has been mentioned, sure is cheaper than driving to collect it yourself in most cases. I recently paid £25 each way even though I could have combined a trip to the dealers with a visit to Bisley- but my time is worth more than £50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Your pay for the dealers time dealing with the paperwork with other rfd courier and then as a customer, it all takes time and as we know time is money. A good regular customer often pays less. I charge £25 to receive. £50 to send. This includes packing or rectifying customers packing which is often inadequate. Both prices include 20% VAT webber Edited November 16, 2016 by webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I charge £25 to receive. £50 to send. This includes packing or rectifying customers packing which is often inadequate. Both prices include 20% VAT webber £50 to send!!!! thats a bit steep!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 £50 to send!!!! thats a bit steep!!! The VAT man gets £10 of it! webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffertoo Posted November 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I charge £25 to receive. £50 to send. This includes packing or rectifying customers packing which is often inadequate. Both prices include 20% VAT webber[/quote Oh ! Not to dear then , So if I sell a nice cheap gun on the forum ,say a £100 and then have it sent ,£50 ,the gun now cost the new owner £150 before he he gets it and then rfd at the other end charges £25 to take and make the SGC the gun the cost £175 to the new owner. It takes about 5 to 10 mins to do this ,bit much me thnks ,oh give the cat a gold fish ,no sorry I for one think it stinks of greed. Look after your patrons who come in dont rip them off ,a good RFD will always do well and many folks will travell to find one. I'm very lucky as I have very near me but if one is the only one for miles it seems like to me,take it or leave attitude which is wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) What you say is normal practice. Costs can be as much as £50 either way (my local gunshop charges this to receive) I bought a new gun, discussions on the best price included RFD costs. My RFD charged me £25 to receive. Edited November 16, 2016 by B25Modelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I would guess the average time it takes to accept or send is about half an hour per customer by the time you add it all up, not the 5 or so minutes some suggest. Last time I took my car in to the local main dealer he charged me well over £100 an hour + VAT, so RFD prices don't look overly expensive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I charge £25 to receive. £50 to send. This includes packing or rectifying customers packing which is often inadequate. Both prices include 20% VAT webber[/quote Oh ! Not to dear then , So if I sell a nice cheap gun on the forum ,say a £100 and then have it sent ,£50 ,the gun now cost the new owner £150 before he he gets it and then rfd at the other end charges £25 to take and make the SGC the gun the cost £175 to the new owner. It takes about 5 to 10 mins to do this ,bit much me thnks ,oh give the cat a gold fish ,no sorry I for one think it stinks of greed. Look after your patrons who come in dont rip them off ,a good RFD will always do well and many folks will travell to find one. I'm very lucky as I have very near me but if one is the only one for miles it seems like to me,take it or leave attitude which is wrong . Well done if you can process the paperwork, liase with receiving RFD, pack the gun to a satisfactory standard; book the specialist courier, then deal with the driver when he arrives, all in 10 minutes. I'm sorry but I can't work that fast. Maybe you can come and give me a demonstration so I can make notes and see where I'm going wrong. webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Don`t want to get into a fight here but the VAT man gets £8.33 out of £50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I charge £25 to receive. £50 to send. This includes packing or rectifying customers packing which is often inadequate. Both prices include 20% VAT webber[/quote Oh ! Not to dear then , So if I sell a nice cheap gun on the forum ,say a £100 and then have it sent ,£50 ,the gun now cost the new owner £150 before he he gets it and then rfd at the other end charges £25 to take and make the SGC the gun the cost £175 to the new owner. It takes about 5 to 10 mins to do this ,bit much me thnks ,oh give the cat a gold fish ,no sorry I for one think it stinks of greed. Look after your patrons who come in dont rip them off ,a good RFD will always do well and many folks will travell to find one. I'm very lucky as I have very near me but if one is the only one for miles it seems like to me,take it or leave attitude which is wrong . I'd like to see you do all that's needed in 10 mins then when reality hits that its normally over 30 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I have been in Business for over 30 years and most of my customers think I am rolling in a cash surplus and live in a mansion. The reality is most of them work less hours for more money they also benefit from having sick pay ( I have not had a day off sick in over 12 years ) holiday pay, pensions, maternity and paternity pay + all the extras that go with being employed. They normally drive newer cars that me they go on holidays to far off places ( i don`t even have a passport ) and then complain when I tell them the minimum workshop time starts at £20. I personally think that £40-£50 to send and £20-£25 to receive is OK and the cheap gun scenario just does not hold any water in the argument at all. This thread is like the profiteering thread on here where one or two people think we all owe them something with the line "if you look after you customers ( ie undercharge them ) then they will keep coming back, so yes within reason and without being rude or taking the mickey they can take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 ^^^^^^^^^ I actually think your prices are ok, after all time is money, however, can't believe you don't own a passport!!!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I have been in Business for over 30 years and most of my customers think I am rolling in a cash surplus and live in a mansion. The reality is most of them work less hours for more money they also benefit from having sick pay ( I have not had a day off sick in over 12 years ) holiday pay, pensions, maternity and paternity pay + all the extras that go with being employed. They normally drive newer cars that me they go on holidays to far off places ( i don`t even have a passport ) and then complain when I tell them the minimum workshop time starts at £20. I personally think that £40-£50 to send and £20-£25 to receive is OK and the cheap gun scenario just does not hold any water in the argument at all. This thread is like the profiteering thread on here where one or two people think we all owe them something with the line "if you look after you customers ( ie undercharge them ) then they will keep coming back, so yes within reason and without being rude or taking the mickey they can take it or leave it. Perhaps you're doing it wrong? There are five RFD's within a 90 minute drive from me; all of whom are very well off indeed. Only one of them has another source of income, and he's an award winning blacksmith; this is horsey country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 My RFD who I sent a gun with today just took delivery of a brand new 110 but he did only charge me £35 to send so he must be having it away on the cartridge price raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Few harsh comments here Personally think rfd charges are pretty fair and would hate to think what some would say if local rfd said sorry sir we don't do transfers ☹️️ Or ok it's £25 for that gun because it's only worth £100 but £250 for that one as its worth a £1000 ☹️️ They have business premises to fund staff to pay Have to be there to receive/send them Think about it before you knock them Ask where would you be without them Best solution here is applying for your own rfd see if you meet the criteria for a grant then you can do it for free 😂 Just my thoughts All the best Of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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