krugerandsmith Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Still got a gat,but worse still,the pop out lov pistol. Makes the gat seem like a powerhouse,lol. You can always tell if a person had a Gat or model 2 Diana .... They will have ring mark in the palm of their right or left hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 The old model with the stupid double cocking mechanism? I thought they were reliable rifles. It kept leaking, and kept leaking and kept leaking despite repeated efforts by the RFD and BSA, I'm sure they had it longer than I had it. Oh yes, then you needed a degree in engineering to work it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 It kept leaking, and kept leaking and kept leaking despite repeated efforts by the RFD and BSA, I'm sure they had it longer than I had it. Oh yes, then you needed a degree in engineering to work it! It was such a daft idea, wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 no its not a daft idea,its good cos u can uncock said rifle,without having to fire it,u cant do that with the normal bolt action ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 no its not a daft idea,its good cos u can uncock said rifle,without having to fire it,u cant do that with the normal bolt action ones. It is/was a daft idea! If it was any good everyone would have adopted it, but it has faded away. You can un cock my Falcon Bolt Action without having to fire it, and I suspect many others as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 no its not a daft idea,its good cos u can uncock said rifle,without having to fire it,u cant do that with the normal bolt action ones. It is/was a daft idea! If it was any good everyone would have adopted it, but it has faded away. You can un cock my Falcon Bolt Action without having to fire it, and I suspect many others as well! Can de-cock an AA S410 without firing it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 "You can always tell if a person had a Gat or model 2 Diana .... They will have ring mark in the palm of their right or left hand."Or in my mate's big brother's case, in the middle of the forehead from the spring flying out when he tried to dismantle it(Later in life he had half a hand removed by a guillotine in the paper mill where he worked - just accident prone I guess...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Can de-cock an AA S410 without firing it as well.Yeah but can you do it without putting a second pellet in the barrel .Or recock it without pushing a 3rd in there too . The mmc was and is a great system I still have 2 of them and prefere it to my bolt only bsas The people who can't work it are the type who get stuck in revolving doors . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Pull the bolt all the way back then slip the Mag out....hold the bolt and ease it forward as you pull the trigger...Hey Presto it's un cocked.....click the Mag back one click then cock the bolt and pop the Mag back in and she's ready to dance - where's the difficulty in that? Edited September 7, 2017 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Pull the bolt all the way back then slip the Mag out....hold the bolt and ease it forward as you pull the trigger...Hey Presto it's un cocked.....click the Mag back one click then cock the bolt and pop the Mag back in and she's ready to dance - where's the difficulty in that? That's the way it works with Falcon and no doubt others! ...... where's the difficulty in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Fair enough I was thinking of the bsa mags that self rotate not the air arms ones that are gun actuated . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yeah but can you do it without putting a second pellet in the barrel . Or recock it without pushing a 3rd in there too . The mmc was and is a great system I still have 2 of them and prefere it to my bolt only bsas The people who can't work it are the type who get stuck in revolving doors . Pull the bolt all the way back then slip the Mag out....hold the bolt and ease it forward as you pull the trigger...Hey Presto it's un cocked.....click the Mag back one click then cock the bolt and pop the Mag back in and she's ready to dance - where's the difficulty in that? This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 From memory bounced off but the little darts used to stick in "just" the gat was accurate at two yards if clamped in a vice. At five yards as depicted in pic the grouping was a good 30" I remember the same by Diana, I had no pellets, so used wet loo roll balls to kill flies, "stalked " a bluebottle on a window, closed in for the kill ,fired & took the window out, too close, probably the only window broken by one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 You usually decock by pulling back the bolt, holding it back and pulling the trigger. At least that's the simpler model BSA moved to and I'm sure they were just copying other rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Easy enough mistake to make, Ultrstu, but such faux pas's are bound to happen when using a gun made by Brummie's and comparing them with the quality stuff from The Old Smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I had a G10 air pistol as a lad which was a laugh but utterly hopelessly feeble & inaccurate. Later a Gamo R77 revolver when CO2 became legal - some of the pellets lined up with the barrel & gave an accurate shot, some didn't & I never worked out which ones did. JS Ramsbottom refused to take it back. Going back 20 years now ! Trying to think of any duffer rifles and the only one I can think of is a BSA Supersport I had at Christmas when I was 14 after reading the review in Airgun World when they first came out. As I was in the habit of getting through a tin of pellets every fortnight, I burnt out several piston washers in succession, it went back to BSA about four times for repair and they ended up fitting a better (export spec they said) piston washer and giving it a 2-stage trigger off the Supersport custom by way of apology. It then behaved itself very well and I regret parting with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 "You can always tell if a person had a Gat or model 2 Diana .... They will have ring mark in the palm of their right or left hand." Or in my mate's big brother's case, in the middle of the forehead from the spring flying out when he tried to dismantle it (Later in life he had half a hand removed by a guillotine in the paper mill where he worked - just accident prone I guess...) Oh yes. You knew you had reached manhood when you could cock your gat by hand instead of using the floor or a wall. They were in effect dual purpose.....a gun and a bullworker...remember those 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 The gats may have been ****, but did we have some fun with them as kids? Great memories for me anyway. I remember walking through the woods and hearing that tell tale fizzing sound of a pellet coming through the air and then 'whack' connecting with my butt cheek. Followed shortly by one of my so called mates emerging from behind the roots of a fallen tree,gat in hand,laughing his **** off.....halcyon days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 My best memory of a Gat - my pal brought his new Gat gun round for some plinking - we were about 13. I was obsessed with airguns. I put up a stack of tin cans with a little evaporated milk tin on the top. We stood about 8 yards away blatting away with this Gat gun for what felt like ages & barely hit the old barn door backstop with the stupid thing. My Dad popped outside to see what we were doing. "Oh," he said, "I used to have one of these when I was a boy - can I have a go?" He picked it up, loaded it, and with one single shot, knocked the little evap tin clean off the top of the tin can stack leaving the rest standing. He gave the gun back to my mate as we both stood utterly agog. I had never been so proud of my Dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Ags pcr-1. I really had high hopes for it. I mean I bought it new for the extortionate price of £300. Inaccurate cheap nasty leaking junk. And I mean this - my smk b2 which cost £20 from the fair when it came to town was better built, more accurate and lasted longer. 2nd worst Edgar brothers mod 60 (hatsan) grouped like my escort I had! Just bought a secondhand g10 at the Wiltshire game/country show. I can see now as kids why we didn't run too fast, the bb wouldn't catch up and hit us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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