David BASC Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Dear All Please see here: https://basc.org.uk/blog/uncategorized/basc-and-ca-unite-to-condemn-chris-packhams-high-street-campaign/ David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest cookoff013 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Lies similar to his recent post on social media alleging lapwings are declining.........due to shooting! This geezer appears more and more to be a desperate extremist who is apparently, without conscience, prepared to lie to and mislead the public in order to further an anti shooting agenda!............Casting doubts about his moral compass and worryingly his mental stability! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link not working for me for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link not working for me for some reason. Me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 ......Casting doubts about his moral compass and worryingly his mental stability! He doesn't have a moral compass because it's impossible for him to recognise such a concept. You have to realise that he has a type of autism called Asperger's syndrome. People with this can be incredibly obsessive about certain topics and completely unable to perceive or respond to logical arguments against the position they've taken. A further problem is that most sufferers have very little (if any) empathy with other humans which means they can be dismissive to the point of rudeness over opinions which don't tally with their own. You only have to watch him in action on Autumnwatch to see how contemptuously he treats the other presenters. He is simply oblivious to the normal sensitivities of dealing with other people. Nothing will change his mind. Only the BBC program makers or the law courts can stop his personal crusade, his abuse of his position, his ridiculous assumptions, his invented scenarios and his misrepresenting of the real facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 David, that's all well and good, but what action did BASC take over the BBC radio 5 interview with Ian Botham, I apologise if I have missed any response by BASC, but if they have, could you give me a link please. Countryside Alliance Chief Executive Tim Bonner writes: On Monday morning cricketing legend Sir Ian Botham was invited onto BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast to talk about his support for the Country Food Trust which had been highlighted in the previous day’s Sunday Times. Sir Ian is donating 10,000 pheasants and £40,000 in aid of the Country Food Trust’s efforts to feed people living in poverty and the BBC asked him to appear on their programme to discuss the project. What happened next was quite extraordinary. It was an indictment of the BBC’s integrity and it raises significant questions about the BBC’s engagement with the animal rights agenda as promoted by its own presenter Chris Packham amongst others. Sir Ian was asked one, solitary question about the Country Food Trust, with a quick follow-up to clarify whether it was a commercial operation. From there every question presenter Rachel Burden asked got further and further away from the subject Sir Ian had been asked on the programme to talk about. The questions fixated on “killing animals for sport”, raised vague allegations of “appalling” treatment and unspecified diseases, before bringing up the hunting of entirely unrelated species such as grouse and even elephants and lions. It was an ambush. Sir Ian had been asked to appear on the BBC to discuss the work of a charity and instead found himself having to answer a barrage of entirely unrelated questions for which he had no opportunity to prepare. What can possibly have happened to BBC editorial rigor to allow such a blunder (and such a breach of BBC Editorial Guidelines) to occur? There is a clue to be found in the line of questioning put to Sir Ian. Every issue raised was unrelated to the work of the Country Food Trust but was directly related to the very public animal rights campaigning of Burden’s fellow BBC presenter Chris Packham. The BBC have told us time and again that Chris Packham is not a BBC presenter, that the BBC’s guidelines do not apply to him and his influence has nothing to do with the BBC’s current affairs broadcasting. Yet here we have an obvious example of BBC current affairs broadcasting being used to promote the full anti-shooting agenda as promoted by Chris Packham. Since the ludicrous ruling by the BBC Trust that Chris Packham is not a BBC presenter and is therefore not subject to its editorial guidelines it seems to have lost any semblance of control over his actions. His recent attack on Ilkley Moor, a grouse moor that has won a Purdey Award for conservation excellence and has hosted a Countryside Alliance walk for ramblers to show off its conservation successes, was echoed across four different media outlets only because of the platform the BBC provide him. On the Glorious 12th Chris Packham will take his animal rights activism to new heights as he leads a march on Westminster seeking to ban everything from badger culls to grouse shooting to legal hunting. The impact of this protest, which would otherwise go almost unnoticed, will be amplified across the media by his presence. By continuing to hire him to front its shows, the BBC is taking sides against the working countryside. We will not let this lie. Our previous complaints over the continued hiring of Chris Packham have been met with mealy-mouthed excuses from the BBC Trust, but the dreadful interview with Sir Ian Botham and Chris Packham’s ever-intensifying campaigns against the hunting, shooting and farming communities are clear evidence of an institutional prejudice against rural people in some parts of the corporation. If the BBC refuses to regulate itself then its reputation will be dragged down just like those of other once great institutions that have become overly influenced by the animal rights agenda. Tim Bonner Chief Executive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 the poor lad maybe it's a cry for help, he need's to be sent packing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Beeb need to deal with him sharpish. This "...he can say what he likes because he's not employed by us....." claptrap needs to stop. He's out of control they need to deal with it the same as they dealt with Clarkson. They're just chicken ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Beef Botham was quoted in the ST recently about how weak the BBC had been over Packham. As usual Beef was spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link no worky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link is working off my PC and tablet? Try going to the BASC main page - https://basc.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Link not working for me for some reason. Paste the link into a browser, works fine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yep, had to copy link out. So its all okay to put this on the basc website, but where is this being shown to joe public? Packham is dribbling this carp all over social media.. Where are BASC and CA putting this apart from on media that the people who agree and know packhams carp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 The time has come for BBC bias to be raised by way of petition, not just shooting but political bias is abhorrent, I wonder if CA would take this up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) He doesn't have a moral compass because it's impossible for him to recognise such a concept. You have to realise that he has a type of autism called Asperger's syndrome. People with this can be incredibly obsessive about certain topics and completely unable to perceive or respond to logical arguments against the position they've taken. A further problem is that most sufferers have very little (if any) empathy with other humans which means they can be dismissive to the point of rudeness over opinions which don't tally with their own. You only have to watch him in action on Autumnwatch to see how contemptuously he treats the other presenters. He is simply oblivious to the normal sensitivities of dealing with other people. Nothing will change his mind. Only the BBC program makers or the law courts can stop his personal crusade, his abuse of his position, his ridiculous assumptions, his invented scenarios and his misrepresenting of the real facts. Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've written, I would like to emphasize on behalf of various interested parties that your use of the words "can be" (as opposed to "are") was accurate. Chris Packham is likely one such person, it would appear, but there are "Aspies" who do not suffer from the lack of empathy / sensitivities to interaction with others in quite the same way. It is one of the diagnostic criteria, so it's unlikely that any Aspie would be inherently without this difficulty, but there are members of this forum I've been privileged enough to meet, who, through intimidating cleverness and patient learning appear to have overcome these difficulties, to the point that it's extremely difficult to tell that they aren't "normal". There is also the added complication that some Aspies - if indeed they are Aspies, rather than falling into some other diagnostic bracket - reject empathy / empathic behaviours as a defence mechanism against an overwhelming sense of empathy. The problem is not that they do not feel, or understand others' feelings, but that they comprehend them too well and allowing themselves to do so at the frequency required for normal day-to-day interaction is overpowering to the point of being disabling. Not all Aspies are like this and not all those who are are aware of their subconscious choice to "block out" unwanted emotions - they may not understand it themselves. They are all, one way or another, terribly interesting people however - you can't predict what they might come out with! I say this on the basis of having spent a few years working, on and off, with some Aspies and autistic people in the time after I left university and on the basis of meeting them relatively often, working in the software industry. Edited August 11, 2017 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagboy Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yep, had to copy link out. So its all okay to put this on the basc website, but where is this being shown to joe public? Packham is dribbling this carp all over social media.. Where are BASC and CA putting this apart from on media that the people who agree and know packhams carp. Well done BASC and CA. I presume ShootingEgg is helping to get it out on social media. We should all do our bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Well done BASC and CA. I presume ShootingEgg is helping to get it out on social media. We should all do our bit. +1 What can we do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del.gue Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 It appears that the ethical consumer mag is writing to the companies asking why they want their logos removing. A quick scan of their website it seems to be a magazine for anyone who likes to be permanently outraged about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Dear All Please see here: https://basc.org.uk/blog/uncategorized/basc-and-ca-unite-to-condemn-chris-packhams-high-street-campaign/ David David BASC, as there is no reply/link to my post #8, I can only presume BASC did nothing with regards the BBC's radio 5 interview with Ian Botham? I apologise again if BASC did take action over this issue and you have not had time to post a reply or link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Well done BASC and CA. I presume ShootingEgg is helping to get it out on social media. We should all do our bit. Correct I do thanks. And I am working with BASC to get young shots into the sport.. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Correct I do thanks. And I am working with BASC to get young shots into the sport.. Cheers Good on you we need more of this. Wish I had the chance earlier in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Good on you we need more of this. Wish I had the chance earlier in life. Already have one shoot day set up with them and hopefully will lead to more going on with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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