Rupert Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 How much an i shorten an o/u to legally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 why would you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Isn't 24" barrel the legal minimum? Think so but check. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 i believe 24" is the minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: why would you do it? To gain the biggest pattern possible at short range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rupert said: To gain the biggest pattern possible at short range Does it make any difference other than reducing velocity once you are at cylinder choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 A 32 inch barrel with true cylinder choke spreads exactly the same as a 15 inch barrel with cylinder choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 9 hours ago, Wb123 said: Does it make any difference other than reducing velocity once you are at cylinder choke? I dont know, my aim is s gun with out choke,similar to those John Bridges has for starshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I had a Remington 1100 with a 24" barrel that was filed out to get it as open as possible when I used to shoot Starshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 24 inches. If you cut it back then make it 24 1/8th inches, then no argument with the law. I have a little double s/s Huglu which has an intermittent misfire we could not cure ...chocolate innards.... but I cut it to 24 1/8 inches and it is my trapped squirrel killing gun, easily carried in the Land Rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 You take an ack saw and you chop dem fackin barruls off roight in frant of tha wood. Then you get yourself dawn the bank and you make yourself a noice wiv drawul. Aw right! Don’t actually do that you’ll end up in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just trade it in for a skeet gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just a thought, It'll be worth b all after, so it's going to have to be a life long keeper. Not many people will give it a second glance if you ever intend to sell it or part x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Section 2 shotgun. 24" minimum barrel length,and a 40" minimum overall length. Edited November 28, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 23 hours ago, stevo said: Section 2 shotgun. 24" minimum barrel length,and a 40" minimum overall length. Correct on the barrel length but the 40" OAL applies to semi-auto and pump-actions only. S5 (ac) of the Firearms Act 1968. If you move an O/U (or any break-action, bolt-action or under-lever shotgun) to an FAC you can have a 12" barrel! (24" OAL also applies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 21:50, geordieh said: A 32 inch barrel with true cylinder choke spreads exactly the same as a 15 inch barrel with cylinder choke So why do so many want unnecessary long barrels ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Longer barrels help with swing which is more important when shooting Sporting/Skeet clays than a faster pointing gun that a shorter barrel would provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gunman said: So why do so many want unnecessary long barrels ? Define unnecessary, the length and extra forward weight make a longer well balanced gun shoot very smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Quote I dont know, my aim is s gun with out choke,similar to those John Bridges has for starshot It would be more sensible to just ream out the choke area - last 3" of barrel. If you chop the end off you might have a gun suitable for Starshot, but not much else. I have shot the Starshot layout a few times, with a 32" trap gun 3/8 and 3/8. The odd ones I missed were just lack of concentration / carelessness, not over-choking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, Breastman said: Longer barrels help with swing which is more important when shooting Sporting/Skeet clays than a faster pointing gun that a shorter barrel would provide. I go back a long ways and remember a highly respected gun maker bring out their '25' model with the advice that the gun would move and swing much better. Very rare back then to see a skeet barrel much over 26 inches. Said it before ..we are creatures of fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 10:46, TIGHTCHOKE said: Define unnecessary, the length and extra forward weight make a longer well balanced gun shoot very smoothly. Barrels that are longer than you need . Many thousands of birds have been shot with 26" barreled guns ,so do you need 32" barrels for driven game ? No. Many thousands of high birds have been shot with 28" barrels again I ask do you need 32"or 34" barrels .? No . What you need is the ability to shoot and confidence in yourself to take them . 30 years ago 30" barreled guns were poor sellers 26" & "28 were popular ,only guns sold in 30" were trap guns . Its a fad and I hear all sorts of talk about swing etc but not all shots are take on the swing . When I hear a man who has shot extremely well with a 28" gun talk of needing longer barrels I know what he needs is to stop listening to people who know no better .When I hear a novice shooter saying he must have 32" barrels I know he is talking rubbish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 38 minutes ago, Gunman said: Barrels that are longer than you need . Many thousands of birds have been shot with 26" barreled guns ,so do you need 32" barrels for driven game ? No. Many thousands of high birds have been shot with 28" barrels again I ask do you need 32"or 34" barrels .? No . What you need is the ability to shoot and confidence in yourself to take them . 30 years ago 30" barreled guns were poor sellers 26" & "28 were popular ,only guns sold in 30" were trap guns . Its a fad and I hear all sorts of talk about swing etc but not all shots are take on the swing . When I hear a man who has shot extremely well with a 28" gun talk of needing longer barrels I know what he needs is to stop listening to people who know no better .When I hear a novice shooter saying he must have 32" barrels I know he is talking rubbish . Round in circles, I shoot 24" to 32" barrels at varying targets, when shooting clays I feel there is a definite advantage to having a long well balanced gun that swings smoothly. When in the hide the 24" full choked multi-choke gun gets all the work. If it is a fad as you say it has been going on for 40 odd years so far! Opinions are wonderful, everyone has one and they are all as valid as the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 It is my intention to try and regain the GWR for the Fastest 25 clays broken,a record i attained in 2012 to aid a local breast cancer charity. So a use once only gun will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 What's the record? Im quite good but saw a delivery driver break about 10,000 in a few seconds he used a forklift though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Mid 24 seconds, using a ugb, i brought it back to the UK using O/u with a 58, not officially beaten with the O/u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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